The Farce Of Fossil Fuels.

[bomberfox]

Not my expertise. You get a lot of conspiracy theories because people think they can understand an article without knowing the basics.

 

[plantpower]

abiotic oil theory says the earth produces it's own oil; oil is the most abundant substance on earth we are in need of, God made it that way for all of us. stop believing the oil companies that we are running out. we are not.

and what happened to the safe Thorium nuclear reactors, tooo safe huh? can't have that, and guess which Alphabet agency stopped safe thorium nuclear reactor tech ??


guess they like their Armageddon scenarios being played out.

Are you high? We should have stopped using coal or oil long ago. Using those things are destroying the planet. But here's the interesting thing about that. If I was to prove my point, this satan's balls licking forum would probably ban me. Not that any of the other forums are any different. For example, I wrote this same exact thread over at a forum that goes by usmb. They banned me before I even got a chance to post it.

 

[Revelation]

Are you high?

yes. high on Tru News, Tru History, and Tru Facts.

We should have stopped using coal or oil long ago.

God gave us oil and coal long ago

Using those things are destroying the planet.

nope. it is just a Left wing and Fascist political foot ball used to control the masses to accept whatever the Fascist dictators declare to be harmful.

But here's the interesting thing about that. If I was to prove my point, this satan's balls licking forum would probably ban me.

then take it down to Fight, they don't care.

and yes it IS stuffy up here and hard to debate when you peel the Onion and find the Truth staring in yur face. for most out there cognitive dissonance kicks in when the Truth stares back at them. then they run and hide

Not that any of the other forums are any different. For example, I wrote this same exact thread over at a forum that goes by usmb. They banned me before I even got a chance to post it.

LOL, i know all about that kind of thing. Remember: 'freedom of the press, is only for those who OWN the press'.

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[Exquisitor]

abiotic oil theory says the earth produces it's own oil; oil is the most abundant substance on earth we are in need of, God made it that way for all of us. stop believing the oil companies that we are running out. we are not.

and what happened to the safe Thorium nuclear reactors, tooo safe huh? can't have that, and guess which Alphabet agency stopped safe thorium nuclear reactor tech ??


guess they like their Armageddon scenarios being played out.

Keep banging your head up against the wall, maybe you'll break through the drywall.

 

[Deuce]

I said that anything that can be built on a very small scale can also be built on a very large scale. Such as nuclear batteries. What is it about that statement that you disagree with. Maybe once you make it to grade school you can tell me. Though I do see one problem with nuclear batteries. They are always putting out power. Whether you need it or not.

The large scale version of this is called a nuclear reactor, which is wildly more effective at putting out power than these "nuclear batteries."

Here's the problem you are missing on the math: to putput the power of a Tesla Model 3 with these betavoltaic batteries, you'd need a battery pack about the size of a football field.

Measuring 15mm by 15mm and 5 mm thick, the battery can generate 100 microwatts, with a voltage of 3V. The company plans to launch a 1-watt battery in 2025.

Even an average smartphone can pull 10 watts, higher end phones can consume even more power than that when performing complex tasks like shooting high speed video. So, you'd need ten thousand of these batteries to power a cell phone. 112,500,000 mm^3 in size, according to the article you linked, which is about 29 gallons in volume. One of the articles said the batteries decay into an isotope of copper, so they must be at least as dense as copper. That much copper would weigh more than a ton.

 

[plantpower]

The large scale version of this is called a nuclear reactor, which is wildly more effective at putting out power than these "nuclear batteries."

Here's the problem you are missing on the math: to putput the power of a Tesla Model 3 with these betavoltaic batteries, you'd need a battery pack about the size of a football field.


Even an average smartphone can pull 10 watts, higher end phones can consume even more power than that when performing complex tasks like shooting high speed video. So, you'd need ten thousand of these batteries to power a cell phone. 112,500,000 mm^3 in size, according to the article you linked, which is about 29 gallons in volume. One of the articles said the batteries decay into an isotope of copper, so they must be at least as dense as copper. That much copper would weigh more than a ton.

Nuclear power plants are far too dangerous. Neither do they last for very long. From what I hear, around 40 years is about as long as engineers think they are safe to operate. They also put out much radioactive waste. Much of which will remain dangerous for far longer than humans have even existed. Next, the websites I gave links to were about what a couple different companies were doing when it comes to very small nuclear batteries. No doubt they have some very smart scientists working in them. And they probably aren't the only places that they are doing so. How smart are they in the realms of such areas as physics, mathematics or electronics? Probably smart enough to where they won't have to be spreading bullshit. If the Chinese scientists say that their batteries can power a smart phone or a drone, who am I, or you, to doubt them.

 

[Deuce]

Nuclear power plants are far too dangerous. Neither do they last for very long. From what I hear, around 40 years is about as long as engineers think they are safe to operate. They also put out much radioactive waste. Much of which will remain dangerous for far longer than humans have even existed. Next, the websites I gave links to were about what a couple different companies were doing when it comes to very small nuclear batteries. No doubt they have some very smart scientists working in them. And they probably aren't the only places that they are doing so. How smart are they in the realms of such areas as physics, mathematics or electronics? Probably smart enough to where they won't have to be spreading bullshit. If the Chinese scientists say that their batteries can power a smart phone or a drone, who am I, or you, to doubt them.

Doubt them? I used their numbers in these calculations. Are you calling them liars?

 

[plantpower]

Doubt them? I used their numbers in these calculations. Are you calling them liars?

Why would anybody come up with numbers that say one thing, yet say something else. Also, they have apparently already produced prototypes. If their prototypes don't do what they say they can do, why would they say they could. Another point is that the Chinese company I spoke of isn't the only one working on them. Are all those others doing so just plain delusional? Or is it possible that such batteries that size could actually be made that would put out a sufficient amount of energy.

 

[Deuce]

Why would anybody come up with numbers that say one thing, yet say something else.

I don't know what to tell you. They gave numbers. I used their numbers.

Also, they have apparently already produced prototypes.

Prototypes that put out power numbers that they supplied, yes.

If their prototypes don't do what they say they can do, why would they say they could.

Why, indeed?

What would you say about an oil company promising such big things with numbers that don't add up?

Another point is that the Chinese company I spoke of isn't the only one working on them. Are all those others doing so just plain delusional? Or is it possible that such batteries that size could actually be made that would put out a sufficient amount of energy.

If they come up with a version that has a power density orders of magnitude higher, I'll get excited about that.

I really don't know what you expect me to do here. Should I just make up my own numbers that sound better?

 

[plantpower]

I don't know what to tell you. They gave numbers. I used their numbers.


Prototypes that put out power numbers that they supplied, yes.


Why, indeed?

What would you say about an oil company promising such big things with numbers that don't add up?


If they come up with a version that has a power density orders of magnitude higher, I'll get excited about that.

I really don't know what you expect me to do here. Should I just make up my own numbers that sound better?

It appears that you are right. The batteries I spoke about aren't up to the point where they could power an iPhone or drone. I wonder what exactly they are planning to use the batteries they have come up with for. I will post the website I was referring to. In it they say, "The company said the next-generation battery had already entered the pilot testing stage and will eventually be mass produced for commercial applications like phones and drones."

www.nucnet.org › news › startup-betavolt-unveilsChina / Startup Betavolt Unveils Nuclear Battery That Can ...

 

[Deuce]

It appears that you are right. The batteries I spoke about aren't up to the point where they could power an iPhone or drone. I wonder what exactly they are planning to use the batteries they have come up with for. I will post the website I was referring to. In it they say, "The company said the next-generation battery had already entered the pilot testing stage and will eventually be mass produced for commercial applications like phones and drones."

www.nucnet.org › news › startup-betavolt-unveilsChina / Startup Betavolt Unveils Nuclear Battery That Can ...

Yeah, these are the numbers at hand. "Hopes to make a battery that produces one watt."

Which is ten thousand times more than the current version. In the same size? Yeah, I wouldn't hold my breath.

Consider the possibility that this Chinese company is just full of shit. Possibly to bilk money from investors.