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The False Teachings Of The Jehovah's Witnesses

Daisy said:

Funny thing is...many of the scripture trinitarians twist around to claim they support the trinity, the holy spirit is not mentioned...yet there are supposed be 3...šŸ¤”



Matthew 28:19 (esv)
Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of
the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,



JW.org mentions the Holy Spirit, Daisy!
IN THE CONTEXT OF THE TRINITY!





Matthew 28
19 Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations,o baptizing themp in the name of
the Father and of t
he Son and of the holy spirit,






Can you guys at JW.org explain to us whose spirit is that?
Can you?
 
Wow, another one dismissing the disobedience of Adam and Eve.....why?



EH?

How am I dismissing Adam and Eve's disobedience?


Can you please read carefully..........and try to understand what is being said.
This isn't the first time you've misinterpreted the message of a poster.


Here's a logical assessment about you:

If you are having problems understanding simple messages in the forum.................how can you be credible with your interpretation of the Scriptures?







Seems things haven't changed.....Adam and Eve chose to risk death so they could discern the differences between good and evil, instead of obedience and eventually eating of the Tree of Life. This is the crux of the human condition to "decide for ourselves" making themselves like a god, knowing right from wrong, good and evil.

It's done with the trinity doctrine also, with the invention of a Godman, elevating themselves and their nature in place of the One whom God sent, making themselves like unto a god. It's all about obedience and God's commands, period. The command is to have only One God and Jesus clearly tells us this One is none other than His Father, but no, no, no.....we know better and they state God is three persons in one being, making God after their own image, a Godman.

These excuses will not fly come judgment day.


Posts #1, 699, #1,700 and #1,701

The previous posts apply as a rebuttal to you, too.

The question of course - regarding the HOLY SPIRIT - is also addressed to you.
 
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We follow the Bible's council on that, too...Matthew 6...

2 So when you make gifts of mercy,+ do not blow a trumpet ahead of you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, so that they may be glorified by men.+ Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full.

3 But you, when making gifts of mercy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing,

4 so that your gifts of mercy may be in secret. Then your Father who looks on in secret will repay you.+
If every religious person and sect would stick with Matthew, the world would be a really neat place. But no. They have to wonder off into Paul firing off missives hither and yon; Timothy degrading women; the horror show that is Revelation. And don't get me started on Old Testament.
 
The confusions and contradictions of JW, are the evidence.



JW.org and its members..........are a classic example of ...............................


...........THE BLIND LEADING THE BLIND.



Luke 6

39 He also told them a parable: ā€œCan a blind man lead a blind man? Will they not both fall into a pit?
40 A disciple is not above his teacher, but everyone when he is fully trained will be like his teacher.



Matthew 15
12 Then the disciples came and said to him, ā€œDo you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying?ā€
13 He answered, ā€œEvery plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be rooted up.

14 Let them alone; they are blind guides.[c] And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.ā€
 
If every religious person and sect would stick with Matthew, the world would be a really neat place. But no. They have to wonder off into Paul firing off missives hither and yon; Timothy degrading women; the horror show that is Revelation. And don't get me started on Old Testament.


We can't pick and choose from the Scriptures.

Furthermore, The Book of Matthew has not strayed from God's Word.

The same laws - the same do's and don'ts - still apply




Matthew 5:17: ā€œDo not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.ā€



The Prophets (authors) have their own styles, and their own topics to concentrate on.



Brief Summary:
The Gospel of Matthew discusses the lineage, birth, and early life of Christ in the first two chapters. From there, the book discusses the ministry of Jesus. The descriptions of Christ’s teachings are arranged around ā€œdiscoursesā€ such as the Sermon on the Mount in chapters 5 through 7. Chapter 10 involves the mission and purpose of the disciples; chapter 13 is a collection of parables; chapter 18 discusses the church;

chapter 23 begins a discourse about hypocrisy and the future. Chapters 21 through 27 discuss the arrest, torture, and execution of Jesus. The final chapter describes the Resurrection and the Great Commission.

Connections:
Because Matthew’s purpose is to present Jesus Christ as the King and Messiah of Israel, he quotes from the Old Testament more than any of the other three Gospel writers. Matthew quotes more than 60 times from prophetic passages of the Old Testament, demonstrating how Jesus fulfilled them. He begins his Gospel with the genealogy of Jesus, tracing Him back to Abraham, the progenitor of the Jews.
From there, Matthew quotes extensively from the prophets, frequently using the phrase ā€œas was spoken through the prophet(s)ā€ (Matthew 1:22-23, 2:5-6, 2:15, 4:13-16, 8:16-17, 13:35, 21:4-5).
These verses refer to the Old Testament prophecies of His virgin birth (Isaiah 7:14) in Bethlehem (Micah 5:2), His return from Egypt after the death of Herod (Hosea 11:1), His ministry to the Gentiles (Isaiah 9:1-2; 60:1-3),
His miraculous healings of both body and soul (Isaiah 53:4), His speaking in parables (Psalm 78:2), and His triumphal entry into Jerusalem (Zechariah 9:9).

Practical Application:
The Gospel of Matthew is an excellent introduction to the core teachings of Christianity. The logical outline style makes it easy to locate discussions of various topics.

Matthew is especially useful for understanding how the life of Christ was the fulfillment of the Old Testament prophecies.
 
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We can't pick and choose from the Scriptures.
Yes we can. Others have picked and chosen before us. What is in the Bible is far from all there is of scripture.
Furthermore, The Book of Matthew has not strayed from God's Word.
I say we should stick with Matthew. He was on the money.
The same laws - the same do's and don'ts - still apply




Matthew 5:17: ā€œDo not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.ā€



The Prophets (authors) have their own styles, and their own topics to concentrate on.



Brief Summary:
The Gospel of Matthew discusses the lineage, birth, and early life of Christ in the first two chapters. From there, the book discusses the ministry of Jesus. The descriptions of Christ’s teachings are arranged around ā€œdiscoursesā€ such as the Sermon on the Mount in chapters 5 through 7. Chapter 10 involves the mission and purpose of the disciples; chapter 13 is a collection of parables; chapter 18 discusses the church;

chapter 23 begins a discourse about hypocrisy and the future. Chapters 21 through 27 discuss the arrest, torture, and execution of Jesus. The final chapter describes the Resurrection and the Great Commission.

Connections:
Because Matthew’s purpose is to present Jesus Christ as the King and Messiah of Israel, he quotes from the Old Testament more than any of the other three Gospel writers. Matthew quotes more than 60 times from prophetic passages of the Old Testament, demonstrating how Jesus fulfilled them. He begins his Gospel with the genealogy of Jesus, tracing Him back to Abraham, the progenitor of the Jews.
From there, Matthew quotes extensively from the prophets, frequently using the phrase ā€œas was spoken through the prophet(s)ā€ (Matthew 1:22-23, 2:5-6, 2:15, 4:13-16, 8:16-17, 13:35, 21:4-5).
These verses refer to the Old Testament prophecies of His virgin birth (Isaiah 7:14) in Bethlehem (Micah 5:2), His return from Egypt after the death of Herod (Hosea 11:1), His ministry to the Gentiles (Isaiah 9:1-2; 60:1-3),
His miraculous healings of both body and soul (Isaiah 53:4), His speaking in parables (Psalm 78:2), and His triumphal entry into Jerusalem (Zechariah 9:9).

Practical Application:
The Gospel of Matthew is an excellent introduction to the core teachings of Christianity. The logical outline style makes it easy to locate discussions of various topics.

Matthew is especially useful for understanding how the life of Christ was the fulfillment of the Old Testament prophecies.
 


EH?

How am I dismissing Adam and Eve's disobedience?


Can you please read carefully..........and try to understand what is being said.
This isn't the first time you've misinterpreted the message of a poster.


Here's a logical assessment about you:

If you are having problems understanding simple messages in the forum.................how can you be credible with your interpretation of the Scriptures?

Lol, you stated Adam and Eve possibly could not even see the Tree of Life or even know its benefits and just a plain ole tree, being ignorant of the tree. Now you accuse me of not understanding, lol. You're painting a picture that they were a couple of idiots, ignorant of the trees in the garden except the one they were commanded not to eat.....is this how you interpret scripture?

Posts #1, 699, #1,700 and #1,701

The previous posts apply as a rebuttal to you, too.

The question of course - regarding the HOLY SPIRIT - is also addressed to you.

Here's a post from another thread that describes more:


 
Matthew 28:19 (esv)
Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of
the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,



JW.org mentions the Holy Spirit, Daisy!
IN THE CONTEXT OF THE TRINITY!





Matthew 28
19 Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations,o baptizing themp in the name of
the Father and of t
he Son and of the holy spirit,






Can you guys at JW.org explain to us whose spirit is that?
Can you?
And...and...and...3 is 3...no mention of equality or 3 in 1...this instruction is about baptism, not about the nature of any Godhead...to be equal all 3 would have to be independent of the other...this is clearly not the case for Jesus and the holy spirit...Jesus is the begotten Son of the Father and therefore dependent on his Father for his existence...the holy spirit proceeds from the Father and Jesus, therefore is dependent on both so Jesus and the holy spirit cannot be said to share in the divine substance on an equal basis with the Father...neither is capable of existing by himself...so there's that...
 
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"You will die," God was referring to spiritual death.
It did happen the moment they ate from it.







Yes, after they had sinned ................... but in the context that God was telling them they will toil until they die.


Genesis 3
17 And to Adam he said,

ā€œBecause you have listened to the voice of your wife
and have eaten of the tree
of which I commanded you,
ā€˜You shall not eat of it,’
cursed is the ground because of you;
in pain you shall eat of it
all the days of your life;
18 thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you;
and you shall eat the plants of the field.

19 By the sweat of your face
you shall eat bread,

till you return to the ground,
for out of it you were taken;
for you are dust,

and to dust you shall return.ā€



Mankind was meant to physically return to dust.............................eventually.




God was not telling them they will return to dust because they sinned.
He was explaining why man will eventually die PHYSICALLY and return to dust.


Both lived on for decades after they sinned, but they had died spiritually the moment they disobeyed GOD.
Adam's easy living of life on earth, was gone. It was replaced by toil and hardships.
Adam lived on til he was 969 years old!

Therefore - it's clearly spiritual death that God was warning them from.
Spiritual death, was an immediate consequence of their disobedience.




Thus mankind needed Christ. We become alive the moment we accept and have faith in Christ.


Col 3:3
For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.


Eph 2:1
And you were dead in the trespasses and sins




We inherited that spiritual death.



John 3:16
ā€œFor God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.


1 Cor 15:22
For as
in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.




Spiritual death, is so much more important than physical death.


Matthew 10:28
And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.





See the connection?
That's the whole point of having the MESSIAH!
BS...death is death...

"The soul* who sins is the one who will die." Ezekiel 18:4
 
...Jesus is the begotten Son of the Father and therefore dependent on his Father for his existence...the holy spirit proceeds from the Father and Jesus,

Some would point out that the Father became dependent on the Son……basically never speaking or appearing in the NT….worship the Father but take instructions from the Son ?
 
Some would point out that the Father became dependent on the Son……basically never speaking or appearing in the NT….worship the Father but take instructions from the Son ?
Jehovah gave Jesus the authority to speak on His behalf...thus he is called THE Word...

"Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: ā€œAll authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth." Matthew 28:18

"Jesus said to them: ā€œMy food is to do the will of him who sent me+ and to finish his work." John 4:34
 
Jehovah gave Jesus the authority to speak on His behalf...thus he is called THE Word...
"

Actually, as you well know from John 1:1, the Word was God…it was the beginning….nothing or no one preceded it…..there is a reason why the ā€˜Father’ never seems to speak in the NT….it is because the Trinity is real…..when Jesus spoke He did not have to let God proofread it….
 
JW really pushes its narrative against the Triune God that it even went to the extent of changing the words in the Scriptures.
All the mainstream Bibles, including the Jewish Tanakh have the same text for

Genesis 1:2
Now the earth was astonishingly empty, and darkness was on the face of the deep, and the spirit of God was hovering over the face of the water.






What did the JW's New World Translation do? Changed the phrase, "spirit of God," into this:

Now the earth was formless and desolate,* and there was darkness upon the surface of the watery deep,*b and God’s active force*c was moving about over the surface of the waters.





JW didn't want to mention ā€œthe spirit of God,ā€ so instead they replaced it with ā€œGod's active force.ā€



Let's get one thing clear: When we change a word, or alter what is written in any way that it changes the message being given by God – what we preach is no longer the Word of God.


2 Peter 1:20
Knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone's own interpretation.


Galatians 1: 6-9
I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.


Colossians 2:8
See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.




To present it as the"Word of God," is a lie.
Thus perhaps, it is why preachers of false teachings are associated with Satan – the father of lies.


Matthew 7
21 ā€œNot everyone who says to Me, ā€˜Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.

22 Many will say to Me in that day, ā€˜Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’
23 And then I will declare to them, ā€˜I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’



John 8
You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him.
When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
The first thing that came to my mind when I saw it took you three posts to make a point is that this is person who is demonstrating a fervent, cult like behavior
 
To deny the Trinity is to accept a God that is silent(relying on Jesus) and unable to manifest himself(relying on the Holy Spirit)….without these 2 you have only the vengeful OT God and, of course, you would be Jewish….
 
God, being omnipotent, needs no helpers….none…….God is manifested in the Trinity…..
 

Was the Word ā€œGodā€ or ā€œa godā€?

THAT question has to be considered when Bible translators handle the first verse of the Gospel of John. In the New World Translation, the verse is rendered: ā€œIn the beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.ā€ (John 1:1) Some other translations render the last part of the verse to convey the thought that the Word was ā€œdivine,ā€ or something similar. (A New Translation of the Bible, by James Moffatt; The New English Bible) Many translations, however, render the last part of John 1:1: ā€œAnd the Word was God.ā€ā€”The Holy Bible—New International Version; The Jerusalem Bible.
Greek grammar and the context strongly indicate that the New World Translation rendering is correct and that ā€œthe Wordā€ should not be identified as the ā€œGodā€ referred to earlier in the verse. Nevertheless, the fact that the Greek language of the first century did not have an indefinite article (ā€œaā€ or ā€œanā€) leaves the matter open to question in some minds. It is for this reason that a Bible translation in a language that was spoken in the earliest centuries of our Common Era is very interesting.
The language is the Sahidic dialect of Coptic. The Coptic language was spoken in Egypt in the centuries immediately following Jesus’ earthly ministry, and the Sahidic dialect was an early literary form of the language. Regarding the earliest Coptic translations of the Bible, The Anchor Bible Dictionary says: ā€œSince the [Septuagint] and the [Christian Greek Scriptures] were being translated into Coptic during the 3d century C.E., the Coptic version is based on [Greek manuscripts] which are significantly older than the vast majority of extant witnesses.ā€
The Sahidic Coptic text is especially interesting for two reasons. First, as indicated above, it reflects an understanding of Scripture dating from before the fourth century, which was when the Trinity became official doctrine. Second, Coptic grammar is relatively close to English grammar in one important aspect. The earliest translations of the Christian Greek Scriptures were into Syriac, Latin, and Coptic. Syriac and Latin, like the Greek of those days, do not have an indefinite article. Coptic, however, does. Moreover, scholar Thomas O. Lambdin, in his work Introduction to Sahidic Coptic, says: ā€œThe use of the Coptic articles, both definite and indefinite, corresponds closely to the use of the articles in English.ā€
Hence, the Coptic translation supplies interesting evidence as to how John 1:1 would have been understood back then. What do we find? The Sahidic Coptic translation uses an indefinite article with the word ā€œgodā€ in the final part of John 1:1. Thus, when rendered into modern English, the translation reads: ā€œAnd the Word was a god.ā€ Evidently, those ancient translators realized that John’s words recorded at John 1:1 did not mean that Jesus was to be identified as Almighty God. The Word was a god, not Almighty God.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2008812#h=1:0-12:54
 

Was the Word ā€œGodā€ or ā€œa godā€?


Opening up a new can of worms for the JWs……is ā€˜a’ singular or plural ? A case can be made for either but leaning heavily to a plural understanding implying numerous gods…….next problem is to find out which god was the word….etc. It becomes a ridiculous nightmare to construct a case that believes in a supreme separate God…..it leads us into making a footnote of Jesus (he could not be God but only a helper)……
 
Opening up a new can of worms for the JWs……is ā€˜a’ singular or plural ? A case can be made for either but leaning heavily to a plural understanding implying numerous gods…….next problem is to find out which god was the word….etc. It becomes a ridiculous nightmare to construct a case that believes in a supreme separate God…..it leads us into making a footnote of Jesus (he could not be God but only a helper)……
No one is equal to the Almighty God, Jehovah...no one...

ALMIGHTY. Heb., ShadĀ·daiʹ, plural to denote excellence, occurs 41 times and is translated ā€œAlmightyā€ or ā€œAlmighty One.ā€ (Ge 49:25; Ps 68:14) The corresponding word in the Christian Greek Scriptures is PanĀ·toĀ·kraʹtor and means ā€œAlmighty,ā€ or, ā€œRuler Over All; One Who Has All Power.ā€ (2Co 6:18; Re 15:3) The expression ʼEl ShadĀ·daiʹ, ā€œGod Almighty,ā€ occurs seven times in M and indicates that Jehovah has irresistible power.—Ge 17:1; Ex 6:3.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1001060081
 
No one is equal to the Almighty God, Jehovah...no one...


@Metanoia



Jesus made Himself equal with God.

Had you been around during His time - perhaps you'd be so outraged, Daisy - that you'd have joined forces with the Jewish leaders?





Jesus heals a lame man on the Sabbath in John 5, and that caused the Jewish leaders to persecute Jesus.
ā€œIn his defense Jesus said to them, ā€˜My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am workingā€™ā€ (John 5:17).

This statement raised the leaders’ anger to a fever pitch:

ā€œFor this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with Godā€ (John 5:18).


Jesus’ deity is a central aspect of the gospel of Jesus Christ.


Jesus provides those who believe in Him with the righteousness of God (2 Corinthians 5:21).
He can do this because He is God and therefore has the righteousness of God to give.
Jesus, God the Son, took on flesh and walked sinlessly among His creations, was wrongfully killed by them, and rose again so they may have the righteousness of God and eternal life.

This is the good news of Jesus Christ.


 
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JESUS' deity is very much the revelation that we have to believe...................as CHRISTIANS.


It's not to be taken lightly.


For one thing, if we don't believe in the One-ness of Jesus and GOD...........we'd be committing idolatry in Jesus Christ.




Contrary to what the anti-Trinity say, there is no plurality when we speak of the Trinity.
There is only ONE-NESS.



Jesus, is, The WORD of God.
The SPIRIT, is, The SPIRIT of GOD.
They're all of GOD.

They're all One and The Same.
 
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To deny the Trinity is to accept a God that is silent(relying on Jesus) and unable to manifest himself(relying on the Holy Spirit)….without these 2 you have only the vengeful OT God and, of course, you would be Jewish….

This statement is ridiculous. God speaks loud through His Son and manifests Himself in spirit and power through the glory of His Spirit in the person of His Son. Biblical principles are much better than a trinitarian's imagination.
 

Was the Word ā€œGodā€ or ā€œa godā€?

THAT question has to be considered when Bible translators handle the first verse of the Gospel of John. In the New World Translation, the verse is rendered: ā€œIn the beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.ā€ (John 1:1) Some other translations render the last part of the verse to convey the thought that the Word was ā€œdivine,ā€ or something similar. (A New Translation of the Bible, by James Moffatt; The New English Bible) Many translations, however, render the last part of John 1:1: ā€œAnd the Word was God.ā€ā€”The Holy Bible—New International Version; The Jerusalem Bible.
Greek grammar and the context strongly indicate that the New World Translation rendering is correct and that ā€œthe Wordā€ should not be identified as the ā€œGodā€ referred to earlier in the verse. Nevertheless, the fact that the Greek language of the first century did not have an indefinite article (ā€œaā€ or ā€œanā€) leaves the matter open to question in some minds. It is for this reason that a Bible translation in a language that was spoken in the earliest centuries of our Common Era is very interesting.
The language is the Sahidic dialect of Coptic. The Coptic language was spoken in Egypt in the centuries immediately following Jesus’ earthly ministry, and the Sahidic dialect was an early literary form of the language. Regarding the earliest Coptic translations of the Bible, The Anchor Bible Dictionary says: ā€œSince the [Septuagint] and the [Christian Greek Scriptures] were being translated into Coptic during the 3d century C.E., the Coptic version is based on [Greek manuscripts] which are significantly older than the vast majority of extant witnesses.ā€
The Sahidic Coptic text is especially interesting for two reasons. First, as indicated above, it reflects an understanding of Scripture dating from before the fourth century, which was when the Trinity became official doctrine. Second, Coptic grammar is relatively close to English grammar in one important aspect. The earliest translations of the Christian Greek Scriptures were into Syriac, Latin, and Coptic. Syriac and Latin, like the Greek of those days, do not have an indefinite article. Coptic, however, does. Moreover, scholar Thomas O. Lambdin, in his work Introduction to Sahidic Coptic, says: ā€œThe use of the Coptic articles, both definite and indefinite, corresponds closely to the use of the articles in English.ā€
Hence, the Coptic translation supplies interesting evidence as to how John 1:1 would have been understood back then. What do we find? The Sahidic Coptic translation uses an indefinite article with the word ā€œgodā€ in the final part of John 1:1. Thus, when rendered into modern English, the translation reads: ā€œAnd the Word was a god.ā€ Evidently, those ancient translators realized that John’s words recorded at John 1:1 did not mean that Jesus was to be identified as Almighty God. The Word was a god, not Almighty God.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2008812#h=1:0-12:54

Such a big thing made over this verse, but it's simple......one question solves the trinitarian riddle: Who's "word", "logos" did Jesus speak?.....an honest answer reveals the folly of trinitarianism.

Besides:


(Joh 1:14) And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


Clearly, Jesus is not the Son of Himself.
 
(John 1:14) And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Clearly, Jesus is not the Son of Himself.

Now, additional confusion. 😁


What did you see in that verse that made you say that?
 
Such a big thing made over this verse, but it's simple......one question solves the trinitarian riddle: Who's "word", "logos" did Jesus speak?.....an honest answer reveals the folly of trinitarianism.


You can say such a big deal made out of it, IF...............IF, it's the only verse we hold up!

It's not the only verse that speaks about the Trinity.



Such is the folly of anti-Trinitarians.
When they dismiss the TRUTH.................................by discarding other verses that speak about the Trinity.


You do know that one way of discerning the Truth is to compare verses with other contents in the Bible?
That, the Truth doesn't contradict or gets into conflict with anything in the bible?


So far - your versions are so full of contradictions and incompatibility with the rest of the Scriptures!
 
@Metanoia



Jesus made Himself equal with God.

Had you been around during His time - perhaps you'd be so outraged, Daisy - that you'd have joined forces with the Jewish leaders?





Jesus heals a lame man on the Sabbath in John 5, and that caused the Jewish leaders to persecute Jesus.
ā€œIn his defense Jesus said to them, ā€˜My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am workingā€™ā€ (John 5:17).

This statement raised the leaders’ anger to a fever pitch:

ā€œFor this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with Godā€ (John 5:18).


The religious leaders of Jesus' time did not believe Jesus was the Christ, they falsely accused Jesus of claiming to be God, and here they accuse Jesus of making himself equal with God. All three are LIES, yet trinitarians believe wholeheartedly two of these lies.


Jesus’ deity is a central aspect of the gospel of Jesus Christ.


Jesus provides those who believe in Him with the righteousness of God (2 Corinthians 5:21).
He can do this because He is God and therefore has the righteousness of God to give.
Jesus, God the Son, took on flesh and walked sinlessly among His creations, was wrongfully killed by them, and rose again so they may have the righteousness of God and eternal life.

This is the good news of Jesus Christ.



Hollywood Christianity wrapped up in one paragraph. "Deity of Jesus", "God the Son", "Triune God" are all tenants of 'another' gospel.

Most importantly is in knowing when Jesus was born, he was as us, a true mortal human being, who was baptized in the Holy Spirit of His Father, was falsely accused of claiming to be God, killed for it, but the True God, His Father raised Jesus from the dead, now has received the promise of the HS, now comes to the saints in the power and glory of the HS.

Believing Jesus is God makes a mockery of the death/resurrection of Christ and puts the wrong mark upon the foreheads of its adherents. God's mark is the one we need and should want, namely that one is one, and one does not equal three......simply believe Jesus that his Father is the only true God.
 
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