The End Of Democracy In The USA

[Randyjohnson71]

I suspect both the democrats and the media of cheating to elect Joe Biden. Trump should keep fighting. If there's a chance that cheating is involved, Trump should fight it all the way. He should fight because of the principle.
Put yourself in Trump's shoes. If you were President and you believed you had been cheated, would you want to concede? Of course not.
I want to believe there was no cheating and I hope there was no cheating. But I am suspicious. Cheating may have occurred and if it did, the people who are responsible must not succeed. I hope that Biden won fair and square and if he did win fair and square, he deserves to be our 46th President. But if he was elected immorally and cheating is allowed to prevail, America can kiss its democracy goodbye. Democracy will be a thing of the past.
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[Mycroft]

I suspect both the democrats and the media of cheating to elect Joe Biden. Trump should keep fighting. If there's a chance that cheating is involved, Trump should fight it all the way. He should fight because of the principle.
Put yourself in Trump's shoes. If you were President and you believed you had been cheated, would you want to concede? Of course not.
I want to believe there was no cheating and I hope there was no cheating. But I am suspicious. Cheating may have occurred and if it did, the people who are responsible must not succeed. I hope that Biden won fair and square and if he did win fair and square, he deserves to be our 46th President. But if he was elected immorally and cheating is allowed to prevail, America can kiss its democracy goodbye. Democracy will be a thing of the past.
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Trump haters don't care if democracy is a thing of the past...in fact, they prefer it that way.

 

[Ikari]

Trump haters don't care if democracy is a thing of the past...in fact, they prefer it that way.

Trump supporters don't care if they kill American democracy...in fact, they prefer it that way.

 

[swing_voter]

Yes, the election was rigged. Your vote doesn't matter.

It's futile.

Why vote? Just stay at home.

 

[Mycroft]

Yes, the election was rigged. Your vote doesn't matter.

It's futile.

Why vote? Just stay at home.

See what I mean? You prefer it that way.

 

[Pound4abrown]

Man, ****ing snow-storm up in here.

 

[swing_voter]

See what I mean? You prefer it that way.

You guys are the ones telling people their votes don't matter.

Watch when only half of those 70 million deplorables show up to vote next time.

 

[Higgins86]

Imagine having the audacity to say democracy is dead whilst simultaneously denying that the man who had the most votes is the president elect.

 

[TomFitz]

I suspect both the democrats and the media of cheating to elect Joe Biden. Trump should keep fighting. If there's a chance that cheating is involved, Trump should fight it all the way. He should fight because of the principle.
Put yourself in Trump's shoes. If you were President and you believed you had been cheated, would you want to concede? Of course not.
I want to believe there was no cheating and I hope there was no cheating. But I am suspicious. Cheating may have occurred and if it did, the people who are responsible must not succeed. I hope that Biden won fair and square and if he did win fair and square, he deserves to be our 46th President. But if he was elected immorally and cheating is allowed to prevail, America can kiss its democracy goodbye. Democracy will be a thing of the past.
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You’ve only posted five times on this forum.

Two of those five times, you made the strange assertion that the media cheated on the election.

I asked for an explanation of this nonsensical claim. I didn’t expect to get one. After all, when Trumpsters speak nonsense, they usually run away once challenged.

 

[Exquisitor]

I suspect both the democrats and the media of cheating to elect Joe Biden. Trump should keep fighting. If there's a chance that cheating is involved, Trump should fight it all the way. He should fight because of the principle.
Put yourself in Trump's shoes. If you were President and you believed you had been cheated, would you want to concede? Of course not.
I want to believe there was no cheating and I hope there was no cheating. But I am suspicious. Cheating may have occurred and if it did, the people who are responsible must not succeed. I hope that Biden won fair and square and if he did win fair and square, he deserves to be our 46th President. But if he was elected immorally and cheating is allowed to prevail, America can kiss its democracy goodbye. Democracy will be a thing of the past.

How could possibly someone cheat Trump?

 

[Big Eye]

Yes, the election was rigged. Your vote doesn't matter.

It's futile.

Why vote? Just stay at home.

The trouble is the vote wasn’t carried out in a safe way...the only guarantee of vote legitimacy is for it to be carried out in a safe, private way in a properly run polling station. Only those that can’t travel to a polling station should have recourse to a postal vote .

If a percentage of a party’s vote is disproportionately postal (compared to other party’s in the same area) then that almost certainly indicates wrong doing.

 

[noonereal]

I suspect both the democrats and the media of cheating to elect Joe Biden. Trump should keep fighting. If there's a chance that cheating is involved, Trump should fight it all the way. He should fight because of the principle.
Put yourself in Trump's shoes. If you were President and you believed you had been cheated, would you want to concede? Of course not.
I want to believe there was no cheating and I hope there was no cheating. But I am suspicious. Cheating may have occurred and if it did, the people who are responsible must not succeed. I hope that Biden won fair and square and if he did win fair and square, he deserves to be our 46th President. But if he was elected immorally and cheating is allowed to prevail, America can kiss its democracy goodbye. Democracy will be a thing of the past.
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dude, there is ZERO evidence of foul play and if there was any, Trump and his dirt bag followers are the ones likely to have perpetuated it.
They are the liars, teh dishonest ones. The cheats the hypocrites.

 

[Rogue Valley]

I suspect.........

I suspect that you're a Trump dead-ender.

 

[Rogue Valley]

The trouble is the vote wasn’t carried out in a safe way...the only guarantee of vote legitimacy is for it to be carried out in a safe, private way in a properly run polling station. Only those that can’t travel to a polling station should have recourse to a postal vote .

If a percentage of a party’s vote is disproportionately postal (compared to other party’s in the same area) then that almost certainly indicates wrong doing.

Lookie here. A Brit lecturing us on how to conduct our elections.

Worry about Brexit.

 

[GolfingChef]

I suspect both the democrats and the media of cheating to elect Joe Biden. Trump should keep fighting. If there's a chance that cheating is involved, Trump should fight it all the way. He should fight because of the principle.
Put yourself in Trump's shoes. If you were President and you believed you had been cheated, would you want to concede? Of course not.
I want to believe there was no cheating and I hope there was no cheating. But I am suspicious. Cheating may have occurred and if it did, the people who are responsible must not succeed. I hope that Biden won fair and square and if he did win fair and square, he deserves to be our 46th President. But if he was elected immorally and cheating is allowed to prevail, America can kiss its democracy goodbye. Democracy will be a thing of the past.
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if you have some actual evidence, present it.

you cannot **** over the whole system on a feeling or because your guy lost.

If there was no cheating and we trash the system looking for every tiny bit of it, we can kiss our democracy goodbye.

In the Republican Senate Report on Russian Active Measures and Campaigns and Interference in the 2016 Election, Homeland Security Adviser Lisa Monaco told the Committee that "there
was agreement in the Intel Community that one of the motives that Russia was trying to do with this active measures campaign was to sow distrust and discord and lack of confidence in the
voting process and the democratic process.

Right now Trump and the Repubs are finishing what Russia started in 2016....they are destroying the citizens in the system.

Our enemies are cheering them on

 

[Nickyjo]

The issue here is not cheating in this election. The issue is Donnie’s widdle self not being able to handle defeat. As noted, he thought the election was rigged in 2016 when he won! Just listened to a Rush substitute a few minutes ago. It seems from his point of view that a significant portion of our electoral apparatus, the media (now including FOX!), the courts, the deep state, are all evil and corrupt. Not the guy who founded Trump U and the Trump Foundation, not the guy who marketed phony Trump steaks, not the guy with thousands of documented lies, not the guy who praised torture and wants our military to commit war crimes. Not the dictator-lover. Sigh. January can’t come soon enough.

 

[bomberfox]

I suspect both the democrats and the media of cheating to elect Joe Biden. Trump should keep fighting. If there's a chance that cheating is involved, Trump should fight it all the way. He should fight because of the principle.
Put yourself in Trump's shoes. If you were President and you believed you had been cheated, would you want to concede? Of course not.
I want to believe there was no cheating and I hope there was no cheating. But I am suspicious. Cheating may have occurred and if it did, the people who are responsible must not succeed. I hope that Biden won fair and square and if he did win fair and square, he deserves to be our 46th President. But if he was elected immorally and cheating is allowed to prevail, America can kiss its democracy goodbye. Democracy will be a thing of the past.
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There is no cheating. The media is only reporting the results in real time. There was no substantial change in reporting.

 

[foolardi]

Trump haters don't care if democracy is a thing of the past...in fact, they prefer it that way.

They Lie so much and so often they forget that Both Al Gore and John Kerry
both Refused to Concede their elections.It took 37 days for the 2000 Florida
Recount to result in a Winner.2 Supreme Court decision.
The Florida Supreme Court at that time was known as THE Most Radical in
the Nation.Jeb Bush was Governor.
David Boies argued for Gore and Ted Olson argued for Bush.
2 very powerful and influential lawyers.
John Kerry was even about set to insist he would not recognize
The Certification of Ohio's vote by Secretary-of-State Ken Blackwell.
I remember that Jessie Jackson came to town to start his usual
trouble.And Ciicinnati Talk Radio Legend Bill Cummingham { 700 The Big One }
gave him a mouthful.Asked him what the hell are you doin' here.
Go the Hell back to Chicago.

 

[bomberfox]

Man, ****ing snow-storm up in here.

You should see /pol. I looked at that for the first time in my life this week and its in total meltdown mode. Lots of infighting too which is good.

 

[Casper]

The trouble is the vote wasn’t carried out in a safe way...the only guarantee of vote legitimacy is for it to be carried out in a safe, private way in a properly run polling station. Only those that can’t travel to a polling station should have recourse to a postal vote .

If a percentage of a party’s vote is disproportionately postal (compared to other party’s in the same area) then that almost certainly indicates wrong doing.

Dude, several of the States that trump and his minions are claiming cheated are REPUBLICAN States, are you try to say that the Republican Party was trying to help Biden win the election? If so you don't know anything about our Parties or the election process here.
Look, if there was any Real election Fraud the Republicans would be all over like stink on chit and presenting it to the courts, guess what, that is not happening, know why, it is because they have Nothing, never did and never will. The election is done and trump Lost, all we have to do is wait for the spoiled brat in the Oval Office to put on his big boy pants and admit it. No one needs him to do the adult thing and just concede the the system will move forward with or without him, and he can leave before January 20, 2021, or the SS can escort him and his brood off the Government property, either way he is Gone.

 

[MaryP]

The trouble is the vote wasn’t carried out in a safe way...the only guarantee of vote legitimacy is for it to be carried out in a safe, private way in a properly run polling station. Only those that can’t travel to a polling station should have recourse to a postal vote .

If a percentage of a party’s vote is disproportionately postal (compared to other party’s in the same area) then that almost certainly indicates wrong doing.

Trump discouraged his supporters from voting by mail. He made quite a campaign about it. So your argument doesn't hold water.

 

[What if...?]

I suspect both the democrats and the media of cheating to elect Joe Biden. Trump should keep fighting. If there's a chance that cheating is involved, Trump should fight it all the way. He should fight because of the principle.
Put yourself in Trump's shoes. If you were President and you believed you had been cheated, would you want to concede? Of course not.
I want to believe there was no cheating and I hope there was no cheating. But I am suspicious. Cheating may have occurred and if it did, the people who are responsible must not succeed. I hope that Biden won fair and square and if he did win fair and square, he deserves to be our 46th President. But if he was elected immorally and cheating is allowed to prevail, America can kiss its democracy goodbye. Democracy will be a thing of the past.
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One thing you should consider is his claims, before the election even started, that the only way he could lose was by fraud.

Which is something he could not have known. All polling pointed to a close race.

And everybody knew that trump warning his people to not vote by mail because democrats would discard their votes would result in high republican numbers on election day followed by high numbers of democrat votes as the mail in vote came in.

Nobody was surprised until trump told them it was proof of fraud.

 

[Helix]

Biden won.

 

[foolardi]

The issue here is not cheating in this election. The issue is Donnie’s widdle self not being able to handle defeat. As noted, he thought the election was rigged in 2016 when he won! Just listened to a Rush substitute a few minutes ago. It seems from his point of view that a significant portion of our electoral apparatus, the media (now including FOX!), the courts, the deep state, are all evil and corrupt. Not the guy who founded Trump U and the Trump Foundation, not the guy who marketed phony Trump steaks, not the guy with thousands of documented lies, not the guy who praised torture and wants our military to commit war crimes. Not the dictator-lover. Sigh. January can’t come soon enough.

Tucker Carlson,Last Night explained it best.This is much bigger than either
Candidate.In fact it wasn't about either candidate but the Integrity of our
Elections.The sense across the land was that People are not worried about
our Elections.They have lost trust in the Election process.That cannot stand.
That is The Single biggest role a citizen has.To vote for whoever they want
and not be hampered.
The Dems did everything ion their power to Hamper this election.
By Spooking the public about the Coronavirus.With Gaslighting.
By Censoring any news relevant to a Candidate.By Having Google
use a new algorithm to not recognize the number of views or searches
of certain candidate.Same crap that Twitter and Facebook pulled.
Now we find out that Joe Biden has a cabinet post all set for
Pete Buttigeige and possibly Andy Stern { a Regular at the Obama WH }.

 

[Bodi]

I suspect both the democrats and the media of cheating to elect Joe Biden. Trump should keep fighting. If there's a chance that cheating is involved, Trump should fight it all the way. He should fight because of the principle.
Put yourself in Trump's shoes. If you were President and you believed you had been cheated, would you want to concede? Of course not.
I want to believe there was no cheating and I hope there was no cheating. But I am suspicious. Cheating may have occurred and if it did, the people who are responsible must not succeed. I hope that Biden won fair and square and if he did win fair and square, he deserves to be our 46th President. But if he was elected immorally and cheating is allowed to prevail, America can kiss its democracy goodbye. Democracy will be a thing of the past.
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Democracy died the moment that the Electoral College was created and used...