Navy Pride
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Naughty Nurse said:And your evidence that a group of gay people couldn't work together without having sex?
You might feel, as you have stated in a previous post, that you straight men have no control over yourselves, but please don't judge me by your own low standards.
Navy Pride said:The average age of a U.S. navy man serving aboard ship is 19.......The juices are flowing.............I take it your a lesbian...........Are you telling me you could serve on a ship living in a berthing compartment as big as your living room, showering in close proximity, and seeing women in all stages of undress that you would not be tempted to make advances?.................Like I said there are a lot of Gay men in the Navy gettting discharged for doing just that...
Naughty Nurse said:Well, I'm not happy with all of my employer's policies. Your point is?
Navy Pride said:Your employer is a private company
Naughty Nurse said:Private health care? Now you've really insulted me!
Navy Pride said:I don't have to prove it.Its fact..........Why do you think states are rushing to pass amendments to ban gay marriage and are passing them by huge majorities even in liberal states like Oregon..........With all respect you don't live here, you have no clue how Americans feel about the gay liefestyle except what you hear or read in our far left liberal meida..........
Navy Pride said:Are you telling me you could serve on a ship living in a berthing compartment as big as your living room, showering in close proximity, and seeing women in all stages of undress that you would not be tempted to make advances?.................Like I said there are a lot of Gay men in the Navy gettting discharged for doing just that...
Navy Pride said:Its a little difference............Your employer is a private company based on democratic principles..........The military by its very nature is not a democracy......
vergiss said:Don't want someone hitting on you? Tell them to sod off. It's pretty bloody easy.
Deegan said:It's a great policy, why would anyone want to discuss this with people at their place of employment? If you are talking with a friend, they already know, and would keep it private, as it should be. If you want to scream to the world you're gay, walk in a parade, but while at work, just keep it to yourself. I certainly wouldn't want to take a shower with girls at work, and I suspect the same would be true in a military situation. You have to respect others beliefs, and issues as well, no matter how close minded they may seem.
Don't want someone hitting on you? Tell them to sod off. It's pretty bloody easy.
Napoleon's Nightingale said::lol: You should follow your own advice. If you had ever read the policy it states that if a straight man is caught having sex with a woman then he would bascially get a slap on the wrist and move on but if a gay man has sex with another man both would be discharged immediatley. Does that seem like equal prtoection under the law to you? Why shouldn't I be able to talk about my bf if straight men are permitted to talk about their gfs? It's ridiculous. I'm gay and I can blow someones head off as well as any straight man. Why does being openly gay make me less qualified to kill or maime someone? I'll never know.
Navy Pride said:That is a bold faced lie.........If a straight man is caught having sex with a female he is subject to discharge........It is against the UCMJ and is a court marital offense........
It is obvious you have never served in the military or you would know that..........
Napoleon's Nightingale said::lol: You should follow your own advice. If you had ever read the policy it states that if a straight man is caught having sex with a woman then he would bascially get a slap on the wrist and move on but if a gay man has sex with another man both would be discharged immediatley. Does that seem like equal prtoection under the law to you? Why shouldn't I be able to talk about my bf if straight men are permitted to talk about their gfs? It's ridiculous. I'm gay and I can blow someones head off as well as any straight man. Why does being openly gay make me less qualified to kill or maime someone? I'll never know.
Deegan said:Why can't you just keep it to yourself?
This is not your run of the mill job, and these guys are not the type of people who want to know about your sexual preference. It makes them uncomfortable to think you might be eye f**king them while in the shower, I mean, the girls don't shower with the boy's now do they? These are gung ho men, and they are a special breed, even if I don't agree, I understand how this could disrupt the everyday operations in the military. Your lifestyle has a reputation, and it proceeds you in to the military, like it or not, we are not going to change the military to fit your life, you'll have to change your life to fit in to the military. This sounds unfair I know, but life is unfair, and this will not change.
Napoleon's Nightingale said:Ha. Hearing about them banging their gfs back home makes me uncomfertable. Besides, do you have any idea how much this policy costs the military in $ and recruitments?! The latest figure is $200 million all because the military discharged perfectly qualified gay service members to replace them with straight ones..as far as recruitments..who knows and this is all just this year. I'll ask the same question. Why can't YOU just keep it to yourself? No one's forcing them to think about what we do in the bedroom.
Deegan said:You're one percent of the population at best, I think the military has gotten on just fine thank you.
Napoleon's Nightingale said:Tell that to old Rummy..he's come way short of his recruitment quota again.
Navy Pride said:If it comes to recruiting gays openly best we be short then........Truth be told that re enlistments are way up in the military...........
Deegan said:Why can't you just keep it to yourself?
This is not your run of the mill job, and these guys are not the type of people who want to know about your sexual preference. It makes them uncomfortable to think you might be eye f**king them while in the shower, I mean, the girls don't shower with the boy's now do they? These are gung ho men, and they are a special breed, even if I don't agree, I understand how this could disrupt the everyday operations in the military. Your lifestyle has a reputation, and it proceeds you in to the military, like it or not, we are not going to change the military to fit your life, you'll have to change your life to fit in to the military. This sounds unfair I know, but life is unfair, and this will not change.
js416256 said:Efforts to retain the status quo and retain some people's so called "values" will inevitably fail because social change is inevitable. Unless there is some massive gay genocide each generation will start to accept homosexuality more and more and soon policies like the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy will be ended. The KKK said things wouldn't change but thanks to many hardworking and determined civil rights activists they fought and gained acceptance. When something is unfair people will fight for it, and trust me gay rights activists will keep fighting for this policy to be ended. I think I might have said this in a previous post but this policy makes the soldiers of our armed forces seem consumed by their intolerance, insecure with their sexuality, and incompetent because they can't even do their job because there might be homosexuals along with them. Now when I was growing up many people told me that the army was only for hicks and white trash (which of course is false) but as I hear the way these soldiers are being described as people who can't even function because there are homosexuals around them I really start to question the intelligence of these soldiers, and how they can function outside of the armed forces.
Navy Pride said:I equate a gay male serving on a Navy ship with all men to me a straight male serving on a navy ship with all women........It just would not work......
The spirit strong but the mind is weak.........Sorry
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