The Door for NATO has OPENED v Russia after missile attack in Poland kills two

[Grandpappy]

This was a malfunction or an accident or incompetence.
Let's not start WWIII.

 

[Cordelier]

This was a malfunction or an accident or incompetence.
Let's not start WWIII.

Doesn't matter... they shouldn't have been targeting anything with 10 miles of the Polish border, if only to avoid the possibility of this happening.

We've been bending over backwards to avoid giving the Ukrainians long-range missile capability. If Russia doesn't cease this reckless bombardment immediately, I say we change that policy and give the Ukrainians the capability of responding in kind and striking targets within Russia.

 

[Grandpappy]

Doesn't matter... they shouldn't have been targeting anything with 10 miles of the Polish border, if only to avoid the possibility of this happening.

You can tell by their "target". A grain silo?

 

[Moon]

Russia is the first to strike and kill people in a NATO country - so it appears that the door has opened for NATO to react v Russia.

Russian missile hits Poland, killing two: Report - Washington Examiner

A Russian missile killed two people in Przewodow, a Polish village near the border with Ukraine, on Tuesday, according to reports.The strike was part of Russia's missile barrage that targeted at least seven cities across Ukraine, marking the end of a lull in such attacks that had slowed since...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

A Russian missile killed two people in Przewodów, a Polish village near the border with Ukraine on Tuesday, according to reports.

Lot of unknowns, primarily was it intentional or accidental. NATO isn’t going to go to war over an accidental hit.

 

[Cordelier]

You can tell by their "target". A grain silo?

As opposed to what? The playgrounds they've been attacking up to now?

 

[Rich2018]

Russia is the first to strike and kill people in a NATO country - so it appears that the door has opened for NATO to react v Russia.

Russian missile hits Poland, killing two: Report - Washington Examiner

A Russian missile killed two people in Przewodow, a Polish village near the border with Ukraine, on Tuesday, according to reports.The strike was part of Russia's missile barrage that targeted at least seven cities across Ukraine, marking the end of a lull in such attacks that had slowed since...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

A Russian missile killed two people in Przewodów, a Polish village near the border with Ukraine on Tuesday, according to reports.

So NATO is clear to attack Russia ?

 

[Cordelier]

Lot of unknowns, primarily was it intentional or accidental. NATO isn’t going to go to war over an accidental hit.

Doesn't matter if it was accidental or intentional. They should have had a bombing exclusion zone to avoid even the possibility of this happening. That they didn't shows they don't give a damn whether they hit Poland or not.

 

[VySky]

Russia bombing anywhere near the Polish border is provocative. Even if actually hitting across the border was an accident, they have showed reckless disregard for the possibility of that occurring.

It needs a response.

Russia is denying the accusations. So we should not expect them to discuss any 'accidents'.

 

[sub1028]

Russia is the first to strike and kill people in a NATO country - so it appears that the door has opened for NATO to react v Russia.

Russian missile hits Poland, killing two: Report - Washington Examiner

A Russian missile killed two people in Przewodow, a Polish village near the border with Ukraine, on Tuesday, according to reports.The strike was part of Russia's missile barrage that targeted at least seven cities across Ukraine, marking the end of a lull in such attacks that had slowed since...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

A Russian missile killed two people in Przewodów, a Polish village near the border with Ukraine on Tuesday, according to reports.

The line just like Obama? Dementia Joe is POOPING his depends, but they will cave weak Joe

 

[Rich2018]

The line just like Obama? Dementia Joe is POOPING his depends, but they will cave weak Joe

Still much rather have Joe Biden in command that Moscow Donald.

 

[Cordelier]

Russia is denying the accusations. So we should not expect them to discuss any 'accidents'.

It's no accident. It's a test of our resolve.

 

[Roadvirus]

Russia is denying the accusations.

Shocking.

 

[VySky]

It's no accident. It's a test of our resolve.

Yep

 

[VySky]

Shocking.

It is shocking if we expect them to say it was an accident so we don't respond militarily. That's not going to happen as it stands now.

 

[Cordelier]

The line just like Obama? Dementia Joe is POOPING his depends, but they will cave weak Joe

Let's at least try to stick to reality here. I don't care what your impression is of the President, he's the only one we've got.... and at least this one isn't trying to bend the Ukrainians over a barrel on military aid to try and dig up manufactured political dirt on a political rival. You want to go back and see where Russia might have got the impression that the US might not stand beside Kyiv? Start looking there.

 

[Grandpappy]

There is no logic in attacking a Polish grain silo. Now if it would have been Warsaw, that's a very different story

 

[Cordelier]

There is no logic in attacking a Polish grain silo. Now if it would have been Warsaw, that's a very different story

It's a test to see how we respond. It's how they operate.

 

[Manc Skipper]

I certainly think that this now places Putin in a much hotter seat for his war crimes. It would best for Putin to surrender and entirely end 'his' war against Ukraine - or else. imo

This is Putin looking to end his terminal illness with a "glorious" war defending the motherland as the finale. He mustn't be given such a horrendous validation.

There's an outside possibility still, that the deadly attack was actually damaged debris from a shot down missile.

 

[ouch]

Lot of unknowns, primarily was it intentional or accidental. NATO isn’t going to go to war over an accidental hit.

Being that Russia invaded Ukraine while targeting and killing 1000s of civilians in Ukraine, I'm leaning intentional.

 

[Cordelier]

This is Putin looking to end his terminal illness with a "glorious" war defending the motherland as the finale. He mustn't be given such a horrendous validation.

There's an outside possibility still, that the deadly attack was actually damaged debris from a shot down missile.

I'm not buying it. Even if the missile was shot down on it's descent stage, it still would have fallen short of it's intended target.

 

[Cordelier]

Being that Russia invaded Ukraine while targeting and killing 1000s of civilians in Ukraine, I'm leaning intentional.

I don't think it actually makes a difference whether this was intentional or not. The very fact that Russia hasn't instituted a no-bombing buffer zone along the Polish border shows they have a reckless indifference whether they strike Poland or not.

When we were bombing Vietnam, we wanted to make damn sure China didn't get involved in the war and so we instituted a 10-mile zone along the Chinese border where our planes were prohibited from bombing just to insure that there wouldn't be an accidental bombing of Chinese targets.

 

[ouch]

So NATO is clear to attack Russia ?

In my book, yeah - inside Ukraine per Ukraine's leading command. Still need for Poland to hear from NATO's command leader and after that, if given a green light to assist Ukraine, it's still up to Poland what they want to do and up to Ukraine's president as well.

 

[ouch]

I don't think it actually makes a difference whether this was intentional or not. The very fact that Russia hasn't instituted a no-bombing buffer zone along the Polish border shows they have a reckless indifference whether they strike Poland or not.

I can live with that. Putin doesn't give a dog flip what rules of war are broken and that's why I'm supportive of any physical NATO action to support Ukrainians inside Ukraine.

 

[anatta]

awesome invoke Article 5 . start WWIII over a ****ing errant missile
this is the kind of crap those of us sane enough to see the error of making Ukraine a proxy war against Russia have been warning about

 

[anatta]

Russia bombing anywhere near the Polish border is provocative. Even if actually hitting across the border was an accident, they have showed reckless disregard for the possibility of that occurring.

It needs a response.

like what?