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The difference between liberals and conservatives

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The difference between liberals and conservatives is that conservatives understand that there is a difference between a person and a person's opinion, whereas liberals see the two as one and the same, that is conservatives see reality as existing independent of what anyone thinks, whereas liberals think that thoughts are reality. This is why liberals can't understand the difference between disagreeing with someone about something, versus hating that person*.

*To be fair, most (but not all) liberals are capable of calmly discussing impersonal matters.
 
Considering you think gays are as you so kindly put it "immoral filth" does that mean you don't think that's a reality or something?

I'm sorry I don't think what you've written makes sense.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Considering you think gays are as you so kindly put it "immoral filth" does that mean you don't think that's a reality or something?

I'm sorry I don't think what you've written makes sense.
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I said that LGBT groups were immoral filth.

Note the difference between a group which is inherently defined by their ideology, and an individual, who is not essentially defined by their opinions.
 
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Liberal:
1. I don't care what you want to do with your life, the decisions are yours.
2. I want to take your money for other people.


Conservaitive:
1. You can keep your money.
2. I just want to be able to write laws that make you live under my moral code.




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I think the more valid distinctions between people have more to do with intelligence.

Intelligent people approach the political ideologies of conservatism and liberalism in terms of the actual values and precepts involved. Unintelligent people simply use "conservative" and "liberal" as a simple-minded label to denote the good guys and bad guys in a childish game of cowboys and indians. .
 
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WorldWatcher said:
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Liberal:
1. I don't care what you want to do with your life, the decisions are yours.
2. I want to take your money for other people.


Conservaitive:
1. You can keep your money.
2. I just want to be able to write laws that make you live under my moral code.

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Those are pretty funny. I think they more accurately describe Democrats and Republicans, though. YMMV. ;)

Gardener said:
I think the more valid distinctions between people have more to do with intelligence.

Intelligent people approach the political ideologies of conservatism and liberalism in terms of the actual values and precepts involved. Unintelligent people simply use "conservative" and "liberal" as a simple-minded label to denote the good guys and bad guys in a childish game of cowboys and indians. .
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Yea, very few people fit into the neat little boxes into which others try to shove them. And these days even the boxes aren't so neat. For example, we Libertarians have a strong tendency toward social liberalism (live and let live) and fiscal conservatism (don't spend money you don't have). So which am I? I guess it depends on what you're talking about, doesn't it?

Besides that, differences are to be celebrated, not hidden. So while a person might be a social liberal/conservative, they might also be stratight/gay, black/brown/normal, ;) etc, all of which serve to shape their world view.

With all that said, though, I think it's perfectly normal, and even somewhat safe, to label people on how they align on a particular issue. For the most part, you're either for or against the colonization of Mars, with a few undecided outliers, for exmple. But assuming that a person believes one way on a particular issue because the box in which you have placed them says they must, usually ends up with you looking like a jackass. And Lord knows that most of us usually don't need any help there.
 
Liberals and conservatives mainly differ in emotional tendencies, specifically regarding danger, social acceptance, purity or conceptual orderliness, and tribalism resulting from successful methods of social ordering during human development that turned into animal level instinct. The ideologies are really just cultural manifestations that change over time and environment and something too many people mistake for real aspects of conservatism or liberalism.

For example in Europe, conservatives tend to have a scary level of desire for cultural and national purity whereas in the us that desires is much more moderate. I'm the middle east, that desire can go so far as to result in something like sharia groups like isil. Likewise in the us, liberals tend to be more social democrat and less socialist while in Europe the bent is more towards socialism (where the conservative with a higher emotional need for orderliness will declare a lack of difference). I think in the middle east, liberals are either quiet or dead.
 
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Gardener said:
I think the more valid distinctions between people have more to do with intelligence.

Intelligent people approach the political ideologies of conservatism and liberalism in terms of the actual values and precepts involved. Unintelligent people simply use "conservative" and "liberal" as a simple-minded label to denote the good guys and bad guys in a childish game of cowboys and indians. .
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Ive broken down the distinction between Liberals and Conservatives to these two immutable truths.

Liberals define the Truth according to their ideology.

Conservatives define their ideology according to the Truth.
 
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In reference to your sig I've got a better definition for SOCCER.

It takes 22 men chasing a ball for 90 minutes to score ONE friken goal....sometimes NO goal.
 
Fenton said:
Ive broken down the distinction between Liberals and Conservatives to these two immutable truths.

Liberals define the Truth according to their ideology.

Conservatives define their ideology according to the Truth.
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I guess there are a lot of conflicting truths due to the number of strains of conservatism.

The monaterists and free marketeers or perhaps the war hawks and moderates are going to need to figure out how the universe works if multiple truths can happen at once!
 
Liberals are concerned with improving things, conservatives are concerned with defending things.
 
: The difference between liberals and conservatives?
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On Thanksgiving day the Democrat can't really enjoy his Thanksgiving dinner because he knows there are people starving in other places all over the world.
On Thanksgiving day the republicon can't really enjoy his Thanksgiving dinner unless he knows there are people starving in other places all over the world.
Oh ...Did I mention that, the reality is that, 99% of liberals vote Democratic and 99% of conservatives vote republicon?
There ...I just did.
 
Fenton said:
Ive broken down the distinction between Liberals and Conservatives to these two immutable truths.

Liberals define the Truth according to their ideology.

Conservatives define their ideology according to the Truth.
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I noticed you capitalized Truth and I know why. Conservatives have a predetermined mindset as to what is the truth and it is based on Faith not reality. It is reality they shun like the plague. The Conservative blogosphere is the source of all your "Truth" and that has little resemblance to reality.
 
iguanaman said:
I noticed you capitalized Truth and I know why. Conservatives have a predetermined mindset as to what is the truth and it is based on Faith not reality. It is reality they shun like the plague. The Conservative blogosphere is the source of all your "Truth" and that has little resemblance to reality.
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And they would've gotten away with it if it wasn't for misplaced capitalization, you meddling kids, and that dog!
 
Fenton said:
In reference to your sig I've got a better definition for SOCCER.

It takes 22 men chasing a ball for 90 minutes to score ONE friken goal....sometimes NO goal.
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Dont know how this has anything to do with this weird "topic"

Anyway. Our sport, the sport played all arround the world, the most popular sport in the world, known as football, is a million times better than watching halfwit inbreeds and gethokids bonking helmets together for a leather egg, which is played nowhere else in the world. I guess it just confirms the nature of some specific americans wanting to be amongst themselves with their sisterwifes in their swamps, ever neglegant of being part of the rest of the world.

The only entertaining sport coming from the US is basketball.
 
this thread gave me cancer, so did paleocon (although he gives me it a lot)

seriously though, this trash of a thread needs to be locked, it wasted DP money/space.
 
The German said:
Dont know how this has anything to do with this weird "topic"

Anyway. Our sport, the sport played all arround the world, the most popular sport in the world, known as football, is a million times better than watching halfwit inbreeds and gethokids bonking helmets together for a leather egg, which is played nowhere else in the world. I guess it just confirms the nature of some specific americans wanting to be amongst themselves with their sisterwifes in their swamps, ever neglegant of being part of the rest of the world.

The only entertaining sport coming from the US is basketball.
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handball is a **** sport.

It's like a ***** remake of rugby.
 
Liberal's believe in greater-good, that every policy must be weighed by what is best for the group.

Conservatives believe in individual-freedom, that every policy must be balanced against infringement on other's rights.
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Both sound good, but only one is correct.
 
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Why is only one correct?
Respecthelect said:
Liberal's believe in greater-good, that every policy must be weighed by what is best for the group.

Conservatives believe in individual-freedom, that every policy must be balanced against infringement on other's rights.​

Both sound good, but only one is correct.
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1750Texan said:
Liberal...Man created Gods

Conservative ....God is my father.
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Jesus didn't seem very conservative if you read what he said and did. He staged protests, argued for equality, and opposed the status quo.
Respecthelect said:
Because they frequently come into conflict.
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How does that make one right? It seems like if they cause conflict maybe both are wrong.;)
 
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