The democrat destruction of this country via the welfare system!!!

[noonereal]

Horse shit!!!!!! I had two jobs because I needed a bit extra money. My taxes was more than what I netted from my extra job.

ROTFLMAO!

I had one job and worked more hours than you.

I love folks who claim they worked two jobs, three jobs, What a joke.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Horse shit!!!!!! I had two jobs because I needed a bit extra money. My taxes was more than what I netted from my extra job.

Have you tried getting a decent-paying job?

 

[Winston]

Hmmmmmm. Sounds like you have some cash flow problems.

Have you considered getting a better job? You should.

Two words Daddyo:

1) Boot

2) Straps

YES BOOTS STRAPS

 

[Michael Cole]

I have seen it relatively often. Generally, it's people who have voluntarily pissed unions away (or support those who have) and think that their problems are caused by people on food stamps. The rich have done an excellent job of manipulating the working class to look down the socioeconomic ladder to find the sources of their problems.

Agreed, and yeah, well, we know what's down that ladder...a welfare queen. Surely not the first in history, but I think this was the opening dog whistle that got us where we are today.

Reagan's departure from the Democratic Party at the time of the civil rights movement wasn't a coincidence.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

YES BOOTS STRAPS

He'll need these:

 

[Daddyo]

YOu're looking at this backwards.

Minimum wage should be higher, welfare shouldn't be lower.

Who are you to tell ME how much doing my job is worth?

All of you leftists who feel minimum wage and welfare should be higher should be forced to pay a higher percentage yourselves. Most would get pissed. Generosity with other people money is pathetic.

 

[Daddyo]

But they definitely advocate for policy that would require them to.

How many of the GOP who pretend to be for the working class actually advocate the tax increases on themselves that it would take to lift millions out of poverty?

The only ones advocating such are Bernie sanders. The rest of the GOP fight for the rich and the rich interests only.

The GOP saved my family thousands in taxes with Trumps tax cut from 34 percent to 22. I am not rich far from it.

Hopefully none in the GOP are advocating tax increases to lift millions out of poverty by stealing money from those who earned it.

Bare minimum’s to maintain life for welfare parasites.

 

[Hamish Howl]

The GOP saved my family thousands in taxes with Trumps tax cut from 34 percent to 22. I am not rich far from it.

Today I learned Daddyo doesn't understand what a marginal tax rate is.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Bare minimum’s to maintain life for welfare parasites.

Seems like you're advocating for a reduction in the Gummint Handouts that are being given to our impoverished and undereducated Red States by the high achievers and high earners in our more developed and accomplished Blue States.

I'd support that.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

Who are you to tell ME how much doing my job is worth?

You have got to be shitting me.

I'm done here, my stupid quotient has just overflowed.

Have a nice night.

 

[Daddyo]

Subsidizing people to get them out of poverty cannot be maintained indefinitely.

All this does nothing but harm us over the long term, unless we take action to make people self sufficient. That is what the left absolutely refuses to do. The left loves to have slaves of subsidy to vote for them.

The worst part is that they know what welfare does to its victims and simply don’t care.

In fact the democrats back in the 60’s made a rule that in order to receive welfare there couldn’t be a man in the home. This rule was purposely added because the dems knew that wealth could not be amassed with a divided family. So the man in black and brown families would leave so that they could qualify. The men enjoyed the freedom and lack of familial responsibility. Soon the rates for single parent families rose and those communities suffered.

All for welfare and all designed and implemented by democrat's on purpose to keep minority families from moving up and out of poverty and into white neighborhoods. Evil democrats did this using welfare. Today we see the damage it caused.

 

[tres borrachos]

So we tell you that leftist filth are destroying this country. Here is an example.

“This is how Blue states remain blue, buying votes by making people dependent. It should also be noted that states have authority over the minimum wage and we don't need a federal mandate

The Cato Institute released an updated 2014 study (original study in 1955) showing that welfare benefits pay more than a minimum wage job in 33 states and the District of Columbia .

Even worse, welfare pays more than $15 per hour in 13 states.

According to the study, welfare benefits have increased faster than minimum wage. It's now more profitable to sit at home and watch TV than it is to earn an honest day's pay.

Hawaii is the biggest offender, where welfare recipients earn $29.13 per hour, or a $60,590 yearly salary, all for doing nothing.

Here is the list of the states where the pre-tax equivalent "salary" that welfare recipients receive is higher than having a job:

1. Hawaii : $60,590

2. District of Columbia :$50,820

3. Massachusetts : $50,540

4. Connecticut : $44,370

5. New York : $43,700

6. New Jersey : $43,450

7. Rhode Island : $43,330

8. Vermont : $42,350

9. New Hampshire : $39,750

10. Maryland : $38,160

11. California : $37,160

12. Oregon : $34,300

13. Wyoming : $32,620

14. Nevada : $29,820

15. Minnesota : $29,350

16. Delaware : $29,220

17. Washington : $28,840

18. North Dakota : $28,830

19. Pennsylvania : $28,670

20. New Mexico : $27,900

21. Montana : $26,930

22. South Dakota : $26,610

23. Kansas : $26,490

24. Michigan : $26,430

25. Alaska : $26,400

26. Ohio : $26,200

27. North Carolina : $25,760

28. West Virginia : $24,900

29. Alabama : $23,310

30. Indiana : $22,900

31. Missouri : $22,800

32. Oklahoma : $22,480

33. Louisiana : $22,250

34. South Carolina : $21,91”

Paying people more money on welfare than the average job would bring promotes the use of welfare. Yet another reason why liberalism is a mental disorder.

So get a job and stop collecting welfare.

 

[Candyman]

I've said it before, I'll say it again. MAGAs get their power from punching down. Here its again taking a swing at poor people, who MAGAs and New Republicans despise. They don't want to hear about poor people. They especially don't want to see poor people. They have no interest in helping poor people. Remember the New Republican motto--- "I got mine so go **** yourself!"

 

[Daddyo]

LMAO i cant believe you posted all that just to have your dishonest tinfoil hat delusional unhinged triggered meltdown post fail

you could have just posted GRRRRRRRR LEFTISTS!!!!! and it would of had the same meaning and failed effect

So did you list to dishonest parts? Lol you guys are pathetically weak debaters.

Here is some more for you to complain about…..People normally will never bite the hand that feeds them and that is what state benefits do buys votes. The left will always try to focus on FIT which is population based and funds the operating expenses of the federal gov't. State taxes fund the welfare programs in the state and has nothing to do with FIT going to D.C.

There are blue cities in Red states and it is those cities that consume most of the state welfare expenses. Buying votes is what welfare does as it is a handout and not a handup.

Refute or move on. Don’t care to hear your empty nasty responses that offer zero rebuttal.

 

[Daddyo]

Let's solve that by giving everyone a living wage, and a Universal healthcare plan.

Or we can just complain about people who can't afford to live, or get healthcare......

Awesome guess what? The taxes that it would require be stolen from those of us who work to give that living wage and healthcare would be astronomical. I will sell my business and become a parasite like the rest of you.

When the economy collapses and the peoples revolt is over, I will dig up my buried savings and succeed yet again by working hard and making good decisions.

I will not work for you to sit around and do nothing. That you can take to the bank. I work for MY family and MY future not yours.

 

[AGENT J]

So did you list to dishonest parts? Lol you guys are pathetically weak debaters.

GRRRRRRRRR another moronic triggered meltdown post that looks complete stupid LMAO
there was nothign to "dbate" you made a post of retarded lies, its only worthy of laughing at BUT if you would like me to further embarrassed your post and continue kicking the shit out of it im completle game.

Lets start with the title . . .
"The democrat destruction of this country via the welfare system!!!"

millions and millions of righties support the welfare system . . . . ooooooooops this is why your thread instantly failed

next is the opening line
"So we tell you that leftist filth are destroying this country. Here is an example."

GRRRRRRRRR leftist filth!!!!!!

no biased there right? already your tinfoil hat batshit insane false narrative retarded post falls apart, you're welcome!!!!
now quick make another failed triggered meltdown response further embarrassing your own stupid post! I cant wait!

 

[Daddyo]

Yeah sure whatever you say. You need to get out more often. I thought you were taking a break? You have been taken over by right wing propaganda just like the Commie thread starter.

He’s trying to clean up some leftist filth.

Calling me a commie tends to explain why you have the problem you have. Critical thinking is obviously not you cup of tea. It’s why we make fun of you privately.

 

[Daddyo]

That is the thing. They bloviate their right wing bumper sticker slogans, but have no idea what the actual facts are. Some dude confined to a wheel chair for the rest of his life gets 60 grand in Hawaii, and then we get moronic threads like this started by right wing clowns.

I have been approached dozens of times about purchasing EBT card balances for 50 cents on the dollar. It is so well known and common. Convenience stores in this area allow cigs beer and hot food to be purchased with ebt for selected customers. They simply ring it up as food. It’s rampant.

You are right I don’t know the actual numbers. Nobody does. I do know that if I have multiple examples and have actually been approached with fraud attempts it’s bad.

 

[Daddyo]

In what way have you proven that? I'm damned positive that here in my state, they most certainly do. I hardly believe we are the only ones.



Your original premise being false makes your next two issues bunk.

Fix that and get back to us.

They don’t try very hard is the point. I have seen it many times. An undercover given a few weeks could get every gas station in this area. Selling beer, cigarettes, and hot food to ebt. They charge a lot extra for doing it.

 

[Daddyo]

#1Most of the time, that plan comes with what amounts to corporate welfare. You know, things like subsidizing the cost of building or elimination of property taxes. Why is that somehow a good thing, but taking care of the worst off among us is to be frowned on?



#2In the end, its the consumer who ends up eating those costs. It won't solve anything, and will probably make shit worse. As long as they can sell thier products worldwide, it will still be cheaper for them to make shit elsewhere, and if they lose the American marketplace, oh well. Other places will pick up the slack.



#3Some of the worst offenders talk out of both sides of thier mouth. They bitch about illegal immigrants, all while hiring them because they don't cost as much as an American worker, as they really have no recourse if they are treated like shit in the workplace. So spare us the bullshit. Hell, immigration could be basically stopped with one simple change.....employers willingly stop hiring them. With no incentive to come here, they would stop almost immediately. That, of course, would require employers to be willing to let go of thier readily available source of cheap labor. It actually ties back into your previous point.....by using illegal labor, they get to make products here and avoid the tariffs you want to see and at the same time, get the benefit of "outsourced" labor.

#1 Because the incentive to business brings a return on investment in the form of economic activity and taxes. Investing in a welfare parasite brings more parasites.

#2 The consumer always eats the costs. Not the point however. If china corporations get slave labor rates and can dump toxic waste into the river behind their business effectively reducing production costs our companies cannot compete. Tariffs would help balance the playing field. Costs would rise but American companies would flourish effectively raising wages and tax revenue.

#3 Conservatives don’t speak out of both sides of our mouths as you said. We are against immigrants coming here ILLEGALLY. If government doesn’t enforce illegals working here then businesses who hire legal workers are unable to compete. My costs become higher than market price and I go out of business. Don’t wanna use illegals but as long as some do others are at a major disadvantage to the point of potential bankruptcy for market priced merchandise like produce.

We don’t expect leftists to understand what is business owners go through. Things like costs and competition are foreign to you. You’ve never been bent over by city business tax, county tax, licensing fees and federal taxes. Too easy to call us evil and greedy etc.

I’m preparing to sleep in my shop during this hurricane while my employees shelter with family. I loose everything if this thing goes bad. They lose a job. Hard to put a price on the stress and risk but there is a reason the owner makes more money.

 

[bullseyelqcs]

#1 Because the incentive to business brings a return on investment in the form of economic activity and taxes. Investing in a welfare parasite brings more parasites.

That's the claim......generally not how it turns out in the end. In the end, the business ends up never giving back to the cities what they spent to get them there.

#2 The consumer always eats the costs. Not the point however. If china corporations get slave labor rates and can dump toxic waste into the river behind their business effectively reducing production costs our companies cannot compete. Tariffs would help balance the playing field. Costs would rise but American companies would flourish effectively raising wages and tax revenue.

Again, a pipe dream conservatives refuse to let go of. We have seen time and again that we lose tariff wars, especially with places like China. Trump got his ass handed to him during his. You know why? Because there are more people in China than here, and in the end, you can rest assured that if given the choice between unfettered access to the buying market HERE or THERE, most businesses will choose THERE. That means anything that is going to limit that access is an immediate no go. Trump didn't give up his stupid tariff war because China capitulated to his demands....he did it because US businesses complained about the Chinese response hurting them more than ours helped them.

#3 Conservatives don’t speak out of both sides of our mouths as you said. We are against immigrants coming here ILLEGALLY. If government doesn’t enforce illegals working here then businesses who hire legal workers are unable to compete. My costs become higher than market price and I go out of business. Don’t wanna use illegals but as long as some do others are at a major disadvantage to the point of potential bankruptcy for market priced merchandise like produce.

You guys SAY you are against them coming here illegally, and then turn right around and hire them anyway. That is the very definition of talking out of both sides of your mouths. The reason doesn't matter. All that reason does is help you sleep better at night. Truth of the matter is that if they actually cracked down on EVERYONE hiring them, the problem would go away overnight....but conservatives seem against any more oversight that would do something about it.

See the dilemma?

We don’t expect leftists to understand what is business owners go through. Things like costs and competition are foreign to you. You’ve never been bent over by city business tax, county tax, licensing fees and federal taxes. Too easy to call us evil and greedy etc.

Bent over? There once was a time when people understood the cost of doing business. Now, the owner class has become some of the most coddled and entitled among us.

I’m preparing to sleep in my shop during this hurricane while my employees shelter with family. I loose everything if this thing goes bad. They lose a job. Hard to put a price on the stress and risk but there is a reason the owner makes more money.

Nobody is saying you shouldn't make more. That said, when you make more at the expense of your employees being able to make ends meet and they end up on public assistance, that is essentially the government subsidizing you being cheap.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Then they lose me. Because to offer more of other people’s money you must TAKE more of OPM. Democrats have been buying votes for decades. Come vote and get a carton of cigarettes……was the first one I remember back in the 80’s. This was offered to the homeless.

Cheating seems to be in leftists blood.

This is not true. This is a common conservative talking point meant to disrupt an election process.

Conservative voters tend to be wealthy 1% members or right-wing militia members. Sometimes they are baby boomers who seem to have been raised this way. As a general rule, the KKK and other racist groups tend to be right-leaning.

Back in the 1960s, a certain democrat president got elected because dead people voted for him, but that was an isolated incident.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

#1 Because the incentive to business brings a return on investment in the form of economic activity and taxes. Investing in a welfare parasite brings more parasites.

This is inaccurate. Some people cannot work and genuinely need help. Those people are not parasites, they are the sick, the injured, and generally, they are people who have no other way.

#2 The consumer always eats the costs. Not the point however. If china corporations get slave labor rates and can dump toxic waste into the river behind their business effectively reducing production costs our companies cannot compete. Tariffs would help balance the playing field. Costs would rise but American companies would flourish effectively raising wages and tax revenue.

I dislike outsourcing of ANY kind. American companies need to bring jobs back to America or pay an 85% tax rate.

#3 Conservatives don’t speak out of both sides of our mouths as you said. We are against immigrants coming here ILLEGALLY. If government doesn’t enforce illegals working here then businesses who hire legal workers are unable to compete. My costs become higher than market price and I go out of business. Don’t wanna use illegals but as long as some do others are at a major disadvantage to the point of potential bankruptcy for market priced merchandise like produce.

It's usually conservatives who hire illegal workers and they usually do this because they will work long hours for less money.

We don’t expect leftists to understand what is business owners go through. Things like costs and competition are foreign to you. You’ve never been bent over by city business tax, county tax, licensing fees and federal taxes. Too easy to call us evil and greedy etc.

Business owners routinely abuse employees and take advantage of illegal workers. I have seen business owners fire people to avoid paying out workman's comp. There were businesses in the late 1880s and early 1900s that made little children work in dangerous jobs for 18 hours per day. This is neither honest nor fair.

Businesses are not the victims they claim to be.

I’m preparing to sleep in my shop during this hurricane while my employees shelter with family. I loose everything if this thing goes bad. They lose a job. Hard to put a price on the stress and risk but there is a reason the owner makes more money.

I wish you good luck sir. Be well.

 

[pocket aces]

I have been approached dozens of times about purchasing EBT card balances for 50 cents on the dollar. It is so well known and common. Convenience stores in this area allow cigs beer and hot food to be purchased with ebt for selected customers. They simply ring it up as food. It’s rampant.

You are right I don’t know the actual numbers. Nobody does. I do know that if I have multiple examples and have actually been approached with fraud attempts it’s bad.

Sure you have. Try telling the truth for once. I know being a commie it might be hard, but give it a shot.

 

[pocket aces]

He’s trying to clean up some leftist filth.

Calling me a commie tends to explain why you have the problem you have. Critical thinking is obviously not you cup of tea. It’s why we make fun of you privately.

The only filth here are the anti American piece of garbage right wingers.