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I did say YOU...as in not ME...
No clue what you are saying, talking about.
I did say YOU...as in not ME...
Obviously...No clue what you are saying, talking about.
Obviously...
I wasn't aware of this collective knowledge....
We know, leftists never consider laws actually applying to them. Laws are meant for others to obey. It is that kind of hypocrisy that defines leftists.
According to the Fifth Amendment “[No person shall] ... be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” Furthermore, the Fourteenth Amendment stays that “[n]o state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States without due process of law.”
Every Governor who has issued a “stay-at-home” order has violated both the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments of the US Constitution. Yes, those Governors were abiding by the laws enacted by their respective State legislatures, but those laws are illegal.
Good try, but these actions are protected by the Public Health Service Act and supporting legislation. Initially passed in 1944 (?), there has been ample opportunity for SCOTUS to review. The actions are constitutional.According to the Fifth Amendment “[No person shall] ... be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” Furthermore, the Fourteenth Amendment stays that “[n]o state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States without due process of law.”
Every Governor who has issued a “stay-at-home” order has violated both the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments of the US Constitution. Yes, those Governors were abiding by the laws enacted by their respective State legislatures, but those laws are illegal.
The Supreme Court in United States v. Wheeler, 254 U.S. 281 (1920) held that the right to travel without government restriction is one of those “privileges or immunities” of every American. In order to restrict the liberty of anyone both the States and the federal government must require procedural due process. That means a trial for every person they wish to restrict or confine.
No government (local, State, or federal) has the lawful power to curtail natural rights by decree. That includes the illegal curfew ordinances declared by city Mayors. There are no provisions within the US Constitution that grants any government the power to restrict, suspend, or terminate the Bill of Rights.
The States and federal government may only quarantine those who are actively contagious and will infect others imminently. And they must present evidence of both at a trial, at which the government bears the burden of proof.
That means a trial is required before any quarantine, no matter the public danger, for every individual whose liberty they wish to restrict. It must also be a fair trial, not one driven by media-generated mass hysteria or government-generated fear. Anything less is a violation of due process and our constitutionally protected rights.
Doesn't have to be in the Constitution. Any constitutional law may be enforced. The Constitution doesn't say I can't steal your property either.My take is that there is nothing in the Constitution that empowers officials to deprive me of my freedom to travel, and there is nothing in the Constitution that guarantees my right to survive a disease if I catch it. For the most part, we are a nation that needs to volunteer to rise to the occasion and offer to make personal sacrifices for the common good.
That being said, if everyone had good judgment, we wouldn't need laws to say what's in or out of bounds for the greater societal good. Unfortunately most of the country are individuals first, Americans second (or third, fourth, ...) so as a collective population we're going to do some boneheaded things collectively. For the most part I think this has worked out in our favor but the pandemic clearly shows the failing of a culture that says it loves America but generally isn't willing to sacrifice, even voluntarily, for it.
Well, we certainly know where liberty and freedom rank with you. How does it feel to be a government slave?You are literally the person that is going to drag this thing out longer and cost more small businesses their livelihood.
That is a lie.Oh brother, if enough people had worn masks in the first place, this wouldn't be an issue.
If you actualy made the effort to read the actual order for yourself, you'll find that there are soooo many exceptions in the order as to render the order ineffectual. The lawyers write them that way so that the governor can be seen "doing something about it" without actualy doing anything about it.
It is indeed. Leftists are very predictable, and being a massive hypocrite is one of the defining traits of a leftist freak. Just ask Gov. Newsom or Cuomo, who both attended parties - unmasked - while telling everyone else not to. Another defining trait of a good leftist freak is mass murder, like what both Gov. Newsom and Cuomo did by Executive Order, intentionally slaughtering tens of thousands of elderly Americans.I wasn't aware of this collective knowledge.
What order are referring?If you actualy made the effort to read the actual order for yourself, you'll find that there are soooo many exceptions in the order as to render the order ineffectual. The lawyers write them that way so that the governor can be seen "doing something about it" without actualy doing anything about it.
Whichever order you're complaining about.What order are referring?
If you actualy made the effort to read the actual order for yourself, you'll find that there are soooo many exceptions in the order as to render the order ineffectual. The lawyers write them that way so that the governor can be seen "doing something about it" without actualy doing anything about it.
We certainly see how much you care about small businesses and sucking off the government teat.Well, we certainly know where liberty and freedom rank with you. How does it feel to be a government slave?
What EOs are those that slaughtered tens of thousands of elderly Americans?It is indeed. Leftists are very predictable, and being a massive hypocrite is one of the defining traits of a leftist freak. Just ask Gov. Newsom or Cuomo, who both attended parties - unmasked - while telling everyone else not to. Another defining trait of a good leftist freak is mass murder, like what both Gov. Newsom and Cuomo did by Executive Order, intentionally slaughtering tens of thousands of elderly Americans.
So there are indeed tell-tale traits that make identifying a leftist freak both rather easy and faultless.
We have a federal form of Government. States have recourse to the traditional police power.According to the Fifth Amendment “[No person shall] ... be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” Furthermore, the Fourteenth Amendment stays that “[n]o state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States without due process of law.”
Every Governor who has issued a “stay-at-home” order has violated both the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments of the US Constitution. Yes, those Governors were abiding by the laws enacted by their respective State legislatures, but those laws are illegal.
The Supreme Court in United States v. Wheeler, 254 U.S. 281 (1920) held that the right to travel without government restriction is one of those “privileges or immunities” of every American. In order to restrict the liberty of anyone both the States and the federal government must require procedural due process. That means a trial for every person they wish to restrict or confine.
No government (local, State, or federal) has the lawful power to curtail natural rights by decree. That includes the illegal curfew ordinances declared by city Mayors. There are no provisions within the US Constitution that grants any government the power to restrict, suspend, or terminate the Bill of Rights.
The States and federal government may only quarantine those who are actively contagious and will infect others imminently. And they must present evidence of both at a trial, at which the government bears the burden of proof.
That means a trial is required before any quarantine, no matter the public danger, for every individual whose liberty they wish to restrict. It must also be a fair trial, not one driven by media-generated mass hysteria or government-generated fear. Anything less is a violation of due process and our constitutionally protected rights.
Everything you said is absolutely true, and undisputed. The one thing you left out, however, is that States are also subject to the same restrictions and prohibitions as the federal government. A declared emergency does not give States, or the federal government, the authority to disregard the US Constitution. As the Supreme Court held in Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11 (1905):We have a federal form of Government. States have recourse to the traditional police power.
The fundamental right of a government to make all necessary laws. In the United States, state police power comes from the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution, which gives states the rights and powers "not delegated to the United States." States are thus granted the power to establish and enforce laws protecting the welfare, safety, and health of the public.--https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/police_powers
While a local regulation, even if based on the acknowledged police power of a State, must always yield in case of conflict with the exercise by the General Government of any power it possesses under the Constitution, the mode or manner of exercising its police power is wholly within the discretion of the State so long as the Constitution of the United States is not contravened, or any right granted or secured thereby is not infringed, or not exercised in such an arbitrary and oppressive manner as to justify the interference of the courts to prevent wrong and oppression.
It isn't a mandate if it isn't enforced. It is merely a suggestion.This is unfortunately true. My states governor issued a mask mandate that didn't include any enforcement or penalties. Completely toothless.
If government upheld the US Constitution, as required, businesses wouldn't be sucking off the government teat. Every so-called "stimulus" check passed by Congress also violates the US Constitution since they do not have the authority. But who cares about the US Constitution, right? They are Democrat filth so the law means absolutely nothing, they will do whatever they please.We certainly see how much you care about small businesses and sucking off the government teat.
A fast moving plague doesn't care anything about our constitution. We're just lucky this was a slow moving one.If government upheld the US Constitution, as required, businesses wouldn't be sucking off the government teat. Every so-called "stimulus" check passed by Congress also violates the US Constitution since they do not have the authority. But who cares about the US Constitution, right? They are Democrat filth so the law means absolutely nothing, they will do whatever they please.
It doesn't matter. Government must abide by the US Constitution at all times, plague or no plague.A fast moving plague doesn't care anything about our constitution. We're just lucky this was a slow moving one.
And if we do during a fast moving plague then China survives and we don't.It doesn't matter. Government must abide by the US Constitution at all times