The Constitution Is A JOKE!

[plantpower]

In the Constitution is says that you have the right to bear arms. To "bear" them, that means the right to carry them. But the supreme court took that right away. We are also supposed to have freedom of speech in this country. Though the supreme court decided that private entities such as forum like this where people communicate with each other don't have to allow people freedom of speech. But if freedom of speech doesn't apply everywhere, it may as well apply nowhere. Also, do you have the freedom to get married in this country? No. You have to pay for a marriage license. Do you have the right to fish or hunt? No. You have to pay for a fishing or hunting license. Do you have the right to drive? No. You have to pay for a drivers license. (Among other things) Do you have the right to own property? No. You have to pay taxes on any property you have. There are probably other things. But that is all that is coming to mind right now.

Though when it comes to taxes, one of the principles our country was founded on was "No taxation without representation." But the average person has no representation in government. Politicians are bought and paid for by the wealthy. Which means that it isn't a democracy either. To be a true democracy, those in government would have to be placed in office by lottery. Also, do you have the right to smoke? Basically, no. Unless you can pay for them. Or you have waste time to roll your own. That is due to taxes. The government taxes the hell out of cigarettes. But it is a punitive tax meant to force people to quit smoking. Though a punitive should not be illegal. The cigarette tax is just another means of taxing the poor more than anybody else. A long time ago in England they used to have a tax on windows. Though this wasn't meant to keep people from having windows. (But for many or possibly most, that is the effect it had) How screwed up is a tax on daylight!

 

[Mach]

It's a great prototype, and was the catalyst and starting point for most of the free and prosperous democracies around the world.
Yes, it has some glaring weakness that we historically have dealt with using tradition and good behavior.
Now that for some, tradition and good behavior are no longer valuable, they are free to exploit those weaknesses.

Yes, it's a problem, and it could be our undoing as a nation, but it's not a joke given what they had to work with, and it's really well for what it is.

It's technically possibly to fix it, but with a 2/3 vote requirement, and only a two party system where one party is trying desperately to abuse power...it's difficult.
Why would they vote against themselves?

 

[Phys251]

 

[noonereal]

In the Constitution is says that you have the right to bear arms. To "bear" them, that means the right to carry them. But the supreme court took that right away. We are also supposed to have freedom of speech in this country. Though the supreme court decided that private entities such as forum like this where people communicate with each other don't have to allow people freedom of speech. But if freedom of speech doesn't apply everywhere, it may as well apply nowhere. Also, do you have the freedom to get married in this country? No. You have to pay for a marriage license. Do you have the right to fish or hunt? No. You have to pay for a fishing or hunting license. Do you have the right to drive? No. You have to pay for a drivers license. (Among other things) Do you have the right to own property? No. You have to pay taxes on any property you have. There are probably other things. But that is all that is coming to mind right now.

Though when it comes to taxes, one of the principles our country was founded on was "No taxation without representation." But the average person has no representation in government. Politicians are bought and paid for by the wealthy. Which means that it isn't a democracy either. To be a true democracy, those in government would have to be placed in office by lottery. Also, do you have the right to smoke? Basically, no. Unless you can pay for them. Or you have waste time to roll your own. That is due to taxes. The government taxes the hell out of cigarettes. But it is a punitive tax meant to force people to quit smoking. Though a punitive should not be illegal. The cigarette tax is just another means of taxing the poor more than anybody else. A long time ago in England they used to have a tax on windows. Though this wasn't meant to keep people from having windows. (But for many or possibly most, that is the effect it had) How screwed up is a tax on daylight!

I hear it's nice in Russia this time of year.

 

[BirdinHand]

Probably should have paid more attention in those social studies classes?

 

[rational anarchist]

In the Constitution is says that you have the right to bear arms. To "bear" them, that means the right to carry them. But the supreme court took that right away. We are also supposed to have freedom of speech in this country. Though the supreme court decided that private entities such as forum like this where people communicate with each other don't have to allow people freedom of speech. But if freedom of speech doesn't apply everywhere, it may as well apply nowhere. Also, do you have the freedom to get married in this country? No. You have to pay for a marriage license. Do you have the right to fish or hunt? No. You have to pay for a fishing or hunting license. Do you have the right to drive? No. You have to pay for a drivers license. (Among other things) Do you have the right to own property? No. You have to pay taxes on any property you have. There are probably other things. But that is all that is coming to mind right now.

Though when it comes to taxes, one of the principles our country was founded on was "No taxation without representation." But the average person has no representation in government. Politicians are bought and paid for by the wealthy. Which means that it isn't a democracy either. To be a true democracy, those in government would have to be placed in office by lottery. Also, do you have the right to smoke? Basically, no. Unless you can pay for them. Or you have waste time to roll your own. That is due to taxes. The government taxes the hell out of cigarettes. But it is a punitive tax meant to force people to quit smoking. Though a punitive should not be illegal. The cigarette tax is just another means of taxing the poor more than anybody else. A long time ago in England they used to have a tax on windows. Though this wasn't meant to keep people from having windows. (But for many or possibly most, that is the effect it had) How screwed up is a tax on daylight!

read it again,,

I couldnt get passed the 2nd sentence to realize you missed what it says,,

 

[aociswundumho]

The government taxes the hell out of cigarettes.

The government is profiting from people who are addicted to nicotine, and it's mostly poor people. That's the morality of the state.

 

[Real blank]

Write a better one then

 

[ModernDiogenes]

Though the supreme court decided that private entities such as forum like this where people communicate with each other don't have to allow people freedom of speech.

A side note on that as I was around when this was very fresh.

You have freedom of speech. This isn’t about freedom of speech. It’s about property rights. These privately owned open forums have property rights. They can, and do, limit what can be spoken in them.

Think of it like this… you have a right to carry a sign but not to post that sign on someone else’s property without their permission.

That’s the situation you’re dealing with here, the limited permission to post your signs on someone else’s property.

Also, do you have the freedom to get married in this country? No. You have to pay for a marriage license. Do you have the right to fish or hunt? No. You have to pay for a fishing or hunting license.

Marriage, fishing and hunting, have costs. Marriage licenses are about protecting contractual rights. It’s not the state sanctioning your social or religious right to be wed. It’s the recording and protection of the contractual rights. Hunting and fishing have conservation and management costs.

Should I pay because you want to enter a contract, or hunt and fishing? That licensing is use tax.

Do you have the right to drive?

No one has a right to drive. You have a right to travel. Driving as the means is a privilege. You gave that privilege as long as you prove you have the skills and don’t violate the laws. The maintenance of that system costs money.. See above.

Do you have the right to own property? No. You have to pay taxes on any property you have.

Tax on property is one of the oldest forms of taxation in recorded history. Running a local government and its services costs money. It’s got to be paid for somehow. It’s property taxes or income taxes. (In some large cities both).

To be a true democracy, those in government would have to be placed in office by lottery.

We don’t have a democracy. We have a republic. It is a democratic republic in that each citizen has one vote to select who represents them in the various levels of that republic; legislative and executive branches.

 

[alabamamember]

In the Constitution is says that you have the right to bear arms. To "bear" them, that means the right to carry them. But the supreme court took that right away. We are also supposed to have freedom of speech in this country. Though the supreme court decided that private entities such as forum like this where people communicate with each other don't have to allow people freedom of speech. But if freedom of speech doesn't apply everywhere, it may as well apply nowhere. Also, do you have the freedom to get married in this country? No. You have to pay for a marriage license. Do you have the right to fish or hunt? No. You have to pay for a fishing or hunting license. Do you have the right to drive? No. You have to pay for a drivers license. (Among other things) Do you have the right to own property? No. You have to pay taxes on any property you have. There are probably other things. But that is all that is coming to mind right now.

Though when it comes to taxes, one of the principles our country was founded on was "No taxation without representation." But the average person has no representation in government. Politicians are bought and paid for by the wealthy. Which means that it isn't a democracy either. To be a true democracy, those in government would have to be placed in office by lottery. Also, do you have the right to smoke? Basically, no. Unless you can pay for them. Or you have waste time to roll your own. That is due to taxes. The government taxes the hell out of cigarettes. But it is a punitive tax meant to force people to quit smoking. Though a punitive should not be illegal. The cigarette tax is just another means of taxing the poor more than anybody else. A long time ago in England they used to have a tax on windows. Though this wasn't meant to keep people from having windows. (But for many or possibly most, that is the effect it had) How screwed up is a tax on daylight!

I learned this the hard way. We are just a country like any other. Humans do human stuff. The American thing is a pipe dream to be enjoyed by people that never encounter any legal entanglements.

Once you taste reality you can never untaste it again.

 

[Teatime]

A long time ago in England they used to have a tax on windows. Though this wasn't meant to keep people from having windows. (But for many or possibly most, that is the effect it had) How screwed up is a tax on daylight!

Did you know that, today, you have to buy a license to watch TV in the UK?

 

[Teatime]

We don’t have a democracy. We have a republic. It is a democratic republic in that each citizen has one vote to select who represents them in the various levels of that republic; legislative and executive branches.

Point of Order: You actually do not have a Constitutional right to vote for President. The popular vote means absolutly nothing, legally. Each State decides how they want to determine their electoral votes, so a State can elect to not let the public vote decide (and imo, we should not, we should remove the drama and showmanship from elections entirely) Additionally, in most States, the individual electoral delegate is not bound to vote the way their state wants and can cast their vote any way that individual desires.

 

[tshade]

In the Constitution is says that you have the right to bear arms. To "bear" them, that means the right to carry them. But the supreme court took that right away.

????????????????? wrong

We are also supposed to have freedom of speech in this country. Though the supreme court decided that private entities such as forum like this where people communicate with each other don't have to allow people freedom of speech. But if freedom of speech doesn't apply everywhere, it may as well apply nowhere.

???????? huh??
You just can't go around and say whatever-----what is so tough to understand???

Also, do you have the freedom to get married in this country? No. You have to pay for a marriage license.

??? still freedom..............no freedom is absolute

Do you have the right to fish or hunt? No. You have to pay for a fishing or hunting license. Do you have the right to drive? No. You have to pay for a drivers license. (Among other things) Do you have the right to own property? No. You have to pay taxes on any property you have. There are probably other things. But that is all that is coming to mind right now.

??????????? are you serious??????

Though when it comes to taxes, one of the principles our country was founded on was "No taxation without representation." But the average person has no representation in government.

???? What???? Since when??

Politicians are bought and paid for by the wealthy. Which means that it isn't a democracy either. To be a true democracy, those in government would have to be placed in office by lottery.

?????????? It's called voting

Also, do you have the right to smoke? Basically, no. Unless you can pay for them. Or you have waste time to roll your own. That is due to taxes. The government taxes the hell out of cigarettes. But it is a punitive tax meant to force people to quit smoking. Though a punitive should not be illegal. The cigarette tax is just another means of taxing the poor more than anybody else. A long time ago in England they used to have a tax on windows. Though this wasn't meant to keep people from having windows. (But for many or possibly most, that is the effect it had) How screwed up is a tax on daylight!

?? you think everything should be free????

 

[Bullseye]

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[NolanVoyd]

In the Constitution is says that you have the right to bear arms. To "bear" them, that means the right to carry them. But the supreme court took that right away. We are also supposed to have freedom of speech in this country. Though the supreme court decided that private entities such as forum like this where people communicate with each other don't have to allow people freedom of speech. But if freedom of speech doesn't apply everywhere, it may as well apply nowhere. Also, do you have the freedom to get married in this country? No. You have to pay for a marriage license. Do you have the right to fish or hunt? No. You have to pay for a fishing or hunting license. Do you have the right to drive? No. You have to pay for a drivers license. (Among other things) Do you have the right to own property? No. You have to pay taxes on any property you have. There are probably other things. But that is all that is coming to mind right now.

Though when it comes to taxes, one of the principles our country was founded on was "No taxation without representation." But the average person has no representation in government. Politicians are bought and paid for by the wealthy. Which means that it isn't a democracy either. To be a true democracy, those in government would have to be placed in office by lottery. Also, do you have the right to smoke? Basically, no. Unless you can pay for them. Or you have waste time to roll your own. That is due to taxes. The government taxes the hell out of cigarettes. But it is a punitive tax meant to force people to quit smoking. Though a punitive should not be illegal. The cigarette tax is just another means of taxing the poor more than anybody else. A long time ago in England they used to have a tax on windows. Though this wasn't meant to keep people from having windows. (But for many or possibly most, that is the effect it had) How screwed up is a tax on daylight!

Take a civics class

 

[alabamamember]

Did you know that, today, you have to buy a license to watch TV in the UK?

Is have to buy two.

 

[Argent]

Additionally, in most States, the individual electoral delegate is not bound to vote the way their state wants and can cast their vote any way that individual desires.

Link please because I'm not sure this is accurate.

On July 6, the Supreme Court unanimously ruled, “A State may enforce an elector’s pledge to support his party’s nominee—and the state voters’ choice—for President. … Electors are not free agents; they are to vote for the candidate whom the State’s voters have chosen.”

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/19-465_i425.pdf

 

[alabamamember]

Link please because I'm not sure this is accurate.

On July 6, the Supreme Court unanimously ruled, “A State may enforce an elector’s pledge to support his party’s nominee—and the state voters’ choice—for President. … Electors are not free agents; they are to vote for the candidate whom the State’s voters have chosen.”

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/19-465_i425.pdf

Dang. That’s a big ask. You want someone to sift through all of the election laws in all 50 states for no pay?

 

[Fledermaus]

I learned this the hard way. We are just a country like any other. Humans do human stuff. The American thing is a pipe dream to be enjoyed by people that never encounter any legal entanglements.

Once you taste reality you can never untaste it again.

Bald faced lie.

 

[Deuce]

Free speech doesn't mean you have the right to use someone else's property, lol

 

[alabamamember]

Free speech doesn't mean you have the right to use someone else's property, lol

Right to bear arms doesn’t mean you get to sell ice cream cones way above market value.

 

[Argent]

Dang. That’s a big ask. You want someone to sift through all of the election laws in all 50 states for no pay?

I googled and found lists. It's not hard to find a modicum of fact to show how an opinion was formed. It was easy to find the SCOTUS decision confirming my suspicion that the poster's statement may not be accurate. When one makes a declarative statement, the assumption is that the person has some knowledge/fact supporting the statement.

 

[alabamamember]

I googled and found lists. It's not hard to find a modicum of fact to show how an opinion was formed. It was easy to find the SCOTUS decision confirming my suspicion that the poster's statement may not be accurate. When one makes a declarative statement, the assumption is that the person has some knowledge/fact supporting the statement.

What should we conclude if his statement is completely incorrect?

 

[Deuce]

Right to bear arms doesn’t mean you get to sell ice cream cones way above market value.

OP was complaining about having free speech, but not being able to say anything you want on some forum or social media platform.

This forum is someone's property. Facebook is someone's property. Twitter is someone's property. My front lawn is someone's property. OP does not have a right to use them, for free, for whatever he wants. That is not what free speech means and it has never has been what it means.

Social media companies have the right to moderate content on their platform. Some people freak out about this, calling it censorship. It's a really entitled attitude, the idea that they have some absolute right to say whatever they want on a computer platform they aren't even paying for. Advertisers pay for the operation of that platform, they're the ones really calling the shots.

 

[alabamamember]

I googled and found lists. It's not hard to find a modicum of fact to show how an opinion was formed. It was easy to find the SCOTUS decision confirming my suspicion that the poster's statement may not be accurate. When one makes a declarative statement, the assumption is that the person has some knowledge/fact supporting the statement.

If delegates are not obligated by law to cast their vote for the winning candidate, then what does that mean for us?