The Commie behind every corner goofballs.

[jbander]

If you don't want to be labeled a communist, stop supporting communist policies. If it quacks, it's probably a duck. Right?

and stupidity seems to quack like a duck also.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

[QUOTE-truthatallcost] Familiar elements of communism do in fact saturate the American left, but largely on a subconscious level. Government doesn't own the means of production in the USA, rather the largest companies own government. [/QUOTE]

If the largest companies own government then it cannot possibly be Communism or any political ideology connected to the Left.
When an interlocking network of corporations owns or controls government, that is the Right, the extreme Right, and the political ideology and economic ideology are known together as FASCISM, so named for the bundle of sticks which, by themselves are weak and flexible, but bundled together as "fasces" are strong and unbending.

Communism is the opposite, where government owns the means of production.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Familiar elements of communism do in fact saturate the American left, but largely on a subconscious level. Government doesn't own the means of production in the USA, rather the largest companies own government.

See post #77

It is the very act of inverting state ownership of corporate to corporate ownership of state which flips it from Left to Right, and as is the case with both, both are sometimes subject to extremist applications, such as the former Soviet Union and by association, Cuba, Venezuela, etc.

For fascism, Franco's Spain and Hitler's Germany, both epitome of far Right extremism instead.
History is littered with failed attempts at extremist authoritarian totalitarian rule, and both the Left and Right own very nearly equal shares if it.
But are we really talking extremism in the United States of America?

If you guys honestly believe that carrying around old 1950's style McCarthyism and Bircher posters is going to save you next November, it's going to be very entertaining to watch.
It began as what might have seemed like forever but eventually America delivered a stinging and final rebuke to McCarthyism and Red Menace witch hunts for a good reason back then.

Even Barry Goldwater himself finally called your bunch extremists in his emeritus years, saying in a final kiss-off:

"Do not associate my name with anything that you do. You are extremists and you have hurt the country more than the Democrats ever have."

Speaking as a liberal, as God is my witness, I do so wish Barry Goldwater was alive today to see this sorry-assed piece of business.

 

[truthatallcost]

See post #77

It is the very act of inverting state ownership of corporate to corporate ownership of state which flips it from Left to Right, and as is the case with both, both are sometimes subject to extremist applications, such as the former Soviet Union and by association, Cuba, Venezuela, etc.

For fascism, Franco's Spain and Hitler's Germany, both epitome of far Right extremism instead.
History is littered with failed attempts at extremist authoritarian totalitarian rule, and both the Left and Right own very nearly equal shares if it.
But are we really talking extremism in the United States of America?

If you guys honestly believe that carrying around old 1950's style McCarthyism and Bircher posters is going to save you next November, it's going to be very entertaining to watch.
It began as what might have seemed like forever but eventually America delivered a stinging and final rebuke to McCarthyism and Red Menace witch hunts for a good reason back then.

Even Barry Goldwater himself finally called your bunch extremists in his emeritus years, saying in a final kiss-off:



Speaking as a liberal, as God is my witness, I do so wish Barry Goldwater was alive today to see this sorry-assed piece of business.

Goldwater seems to have flipped his lid as he aged. Remember, it was Goldwater who was labeled 'far right, antisemitic (he was Jewish lol), and extremist' in 1964. Look what ensued: Johnson was elected, LBJ's warmongering in Vietnam proved disastrous, the Great Society decimated black communities to a far greater extent than the Klan ever did, black marriage rates plummeted, the nation was severely fractured, and we wound up with Nixon. Do you guys ever learn from your mistakes, or do you lavish repeating them?

Apparently no one else on this thread besides me understands the difference between saying 'elements of communism saturate the Democratic party', and saying 'you Dems are a buncha red underwear wearin' commies!' Nuance was supposed to be your forte, not mine. Anyway, the modern left wing is in fact dangerously close to veering into left wing totalitarianism. Every American city has a sizable Antifa presence now, which has strayed far from the original Jewish antifa of the 1950's. Remember that it wasn't long ago when your little wannabe Cheka pals at Antifa were going around shouting Punch a Nazi! and then using their retarded and far reaching definition of what a nazi is to pepper spray women, and attack random people on the street. Yes the far left DOES have a problem with communism, anarchism, and a dangerous shortage of brain cells. The average Democrat isn't a far left Antifa member though, remember?

 

[calamity]

We will keep this simple for obvious reasons. There is no communism or socialism in the democratic party or anywhere in this country , never met one in my lifetime... Every single right wing wacko has their own personal definition of socialism and communism, You don't get to define it for you personal hatred, there is already a definition for both of them .

There is one Tenet that is the prime controlling factor in both Communism and socialism. Without which there is no socialism or communism. I have one simple question for you (I promised to keep this simple) when was the last time anyone has ever come up to you in this country and said "you know I think it would be a good idea that all businesses should be owned and run by the government. "

You goofballs throw the Socialism/communism stupidity around all the time but you have no clue what your talking about ever. The prime tenet of socialism/communism is The means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the government. , without that there is zero communism or socialism and we can go one further step then that .Go to the real definition of communism or socialism in the encyclopedia and take all the main tenets of socialism/communism. , bring them back and with them show us where and who and why you think any aspect of the main tenets of Socialism/communism is ever supported in this country other then by a trickle of people and not as you have it by being half this countries population. This Commie behind every corner routine is a idiots comment.

Love the title.

 

[jbander]

[QUOTE-truthatallcost] Familiar elements of communism do in fact saturate the American left, but largely on a subconscious level. Government doesn't own the means of production in the USA, rather the largest companies own government.

If the largest companies own government then it cannot possibly be Communism or any political ideology connected to the Left.
When an interlocking network of corporations owns or controls government, that is the Right, the extreme Right, and the political ideology and economic ideology are known together as FASCISM, so named for the bundle of sticks which, by themselves are weak and flexible, but bundled together as "fasces" are strong and unbending.

Communism is the opposite, where government owns the means of production.[/QUOTE]Every time the right says that a democrat is a commie, it's exactly no different then them saying their stupid. The right wing stamp of approval, I've offered everyone of these non thinking, one string puppets that that throws these tags on democrats, that I will pay for them to have "I am Stupid" tattooed to their forehead and then everyone will know they are right wingers.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Goldwater seems to have flipped his lid as he aged. Remember, it was Goldwater who was labeled 'far right, antisemitic (he was Jewish lol), and extremist' in 1964. Look what ensued: Johnson was elected, LBJ's warmongering in Vietnam proved disastrous, the Great Society decimated black communities to a far greater extent than the Klan ever did, black marriage rates plummeted, the nation was severely fractured, and we wound up with Nixon. Do you guys ever learn from your mistakes, or do you lavish repeating them?

Apparently no one else on this thread besides me understands the difference between saying 'elements of communism saturate the Democratic party', and saying 'you Dems are a buncha red underwear wearin' commies!' Nuance was supposed to be your forte, not mine. Anyway, the modern left wing is in fact dangerously close to veering into left wing totalitarianism. Every American city has a sizable Antifa presence now, which has strayed far from the original Jewish antifa of the 1950's. Remember that it wasn't long ago when your little wannabe Cheka pals at Antifa were going around shouting Punch a Nazi! and then using their retarded and far reaching definition of what a nazi is to pepper spray women, and attack random people on the street. Yes the far left DOES have a problem with communism, anarchism, and a dangerous shortage of brain cells. The average Democrat isn't a far left Antifa member though, remember?

You can't even get the actual history of the old Antifa of the 1930's correct.
Same goes for the rest of that wall of blather.

You make lame excuses for the fact that one of the greatest conservatives who ever lived in the modern era not only predicted the destruction of the party as the far Religious Right infiltrated, he also got fed up IN CONCERT WITH a good many of his peers.

When you distort reality and mangle history this badly, talk of things like nuance veers into the absurd, right along with all your McCarthyist red baiting windyfoggery, as evidenced by the fact that you contradict yourself in a single paragraph for starters.

By the way, did you ever hear about the very first time when the United States was bombed by aircraft?
It wasn't Pearl Harbor, it was lovely conservatives such as yourselves tossing firebombs down onto a black community in Tulsa, Oklahoma in 1921.

But I guess that doesn't count as "decimating black communities to a far greater extent than the Klan ever did", but that's only because you are utterly ignorant of a time period in history where you probably weren't even alive yet.

I lived through it.
And listening to you stretch the truth is insufferable.
You are a historical revisionist.

 

[jbander]

Goldwater seems to have flipped his lid as he aged. Remember, it was Goldwater who was labeled 'far right, antisemitic (he was Jewish lol), and extremist' in 1964. Look what ensued: Johnson was elected, LBJ's warmongering in Vietnam proved disastrous, the Great Society decimated black communities to a far greater extent than the Klan ever did, black marriage rates plummeted, the nation was severely fractured, and we wound up with Nixon. Do you guys ever learn from your mistakes, or do you lavish repeating them?

Apparently no one else on this thread besides me understands the difference between saying 'elements of communism saturate the Democratic party', and saying 'you Dems are a buncha red underwear wearin' commies!' Nuance was supposed to be your forte, not mine. Anyway, the modern left wing is in fact dangerously close to veering into left wing totalitarianism. Every American city has a sizable Antifa presence now, which has strayed far from the original Jewish antifa of the 1950's. Remember that it wasn't long ago when your little wannabe Cheka pals at Antifa were going around shouting Punch a Nazi! and then using their retarded and far reaching definition of what a nazi is to pepper spray women, and attack random people on the street. Yes the far left DOES have a problem with communism, anarchism, and a dangerous shortage of brain cells. The average Democrat isn't a far left Antifa member though, remember?

Not getting very far with your stupid personal definition of Communism I see. Your a funny guy. You have tried everything else on me , it's probably time to attack my spelling and the way I conjugate a verb/ Yuk Yuk!

 

[ajn678]

We will keep this simple for obvious reasons. There is no communism or socialism in the democratic party or anywhere in this country , never met one in my lifetime... Every single right wing wacko has their own personal definition of socialism and communism, You don't get to define it for you personal hatred, there is already a definition for both of them .

There is one Tenet that is the prime controlling factor in both Communism and socialism. Without which there is no socialism or communism. I have one simple question for you (I promised to keep this simple) when was the last time anyone has ever come up to you in this country and said "you know I think it would be a good idea that all businesses should be owned and run by the government. "

You goofballs throw the Socialism/communism stupidity around all the time but you have no clue what your talking about ever. The prime tenet of socialism/communism is The means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the government. , without that there is zero communism or socialism and we can go one further step then that .Go to the real definition of communism or socialism in the encyclopedia and take all the main tenets of socialism/communism. , bring them back and with them show us where and who and why you think any aspect of the main tenets of Socialism/communism is ever supported in this country other then by a trickle of people and not as you have it by being half this countries population. This Commie behind every corner routine is a idiots comment.

If you don't think there are active communists/socialists in the United States it shows just how ignorant you are.

 

[jbander]

If you don't think there are active communists/socialists in the United States it shows just how ignorant you are.

Like who, for instance? Who is supporting the idea that all property should be owned by the government, or set all wages, who supports that all natural resources are owned by the Government. Who supports that al business should be owned and run by the government. Oh great wisdom seeker for the ages , lets hear your definition of what communist or socialism is.. What a hoot, hell give it your best shot. This is where the experts on the right get a little confused, They see the word social or socialist in a statement and its automatically the commies . Go check out what the Nazi party is called.

 

[VanceMack]

"The American People will take Socialism, but they won’t take the label. I certainly proved it in the case of EPIC. Running on the Socialist ticket I got 60,000 votes, and running on the slogan to ‘End Poverty in California’ I got 879,000. I think we simply have to recognize the fact that our enemies have succeeded in spreading the Big Lie. There is no use attacking it by a front attack, it is much better to out-flank them."

"We cannot expect Americans to jump from capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans doses of socialism until they suddenly awake to find out they have Communism.''

The irony in the OPs comment is found in the frequency that the rats...not the Republicans...use the Russians as their Baba Yaga to cover their own dirty deeds.

 

[jbander]

"The American People will take Socialism, but they won’t take the label. I certainly proved it in the case of EPIC. Running on the Socialist ticket I got 60,000 votes, and running on the slogan to ‘End Poverty in California’ I got 879,000. I think we simply have to recognize the fact that our enemies have succeeded in spreading the Big Lie. There is no use attacking it by a front attack, it is much better to out-flank them."

"We cannot expect Americans to jump from capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans doses of socialism until they suddenly awake to find out they have Communism.''

The irony in the OPs comment is found in the frequency that the rats...not the Republicans...use the Russians as their Baba Yaga to cover their own dirty deeds.

There is only one party holding hands with the commies , that's the same party that holds hands with the White supremacist, the Nazi's and the KKK,who for the first time in history, all three, have supported a party and candidate , and its supporters. You fit perfect withing this group, You should be proud. The rest of your comment simply impossible for you to back up with anything other then your own private definition of the socialism, This clown says that this country will except that all business be taken over and run by the government and that all sales of the business is also charged to the government , Which we can all see is just stupid , this country won't except any aspect of this.

 

[bongsaway]

Semantics is what you will get from the right, word play. As you say there are not any isms in american unless you consider white nationalism.

The right will argue up down and sideways about all the isms while their leaders promote the almost god-like capitalism. The same beloved system that keeps the top ten percent the top ten percent.

 

[VanceMack]

There is only one party holding hands with the commies , that's the same party that holds hands with the White supremacist, the Nazi's and the KKK,who for the first time in history, all three, have supported a party and candidate , and its supporters. You fit perfect withing this group, You should be proud. The rest of your comment simply impossible for you to back up with anything other then your own private definition of the socialism, This clown says that this country will except that all business be taken over and run by the government and that all sales of the business is also charged to the government , Which we can all see is just stupid , this country won't except any aspect of this.

If you honestly believe that conservatives in this country are aligned with the Nazis or Communists you are dumber than I ever could have imagined...and that boggles the mind.

 

[jbander]

If you honestly believe that conservatives in this country are aligned with the Nazis or Communists you are dumber than I ever could have imagined...and that boggles the mind.

You can't deny that these hate groups supported your party , you and your god and leader Scum Bag for the first time in history. Or that these hate groups supported your pile of **** leader , The KKK, The NRA, White supremacist, The evangelicals and the Nazi Party.

 

[Logical1]

Some commies are out in the open like Bernie and Warren.

 

[jbander]

Some commies are out in the open like Bernie and Warren.

Owe so your telling us that the National Socialist German Workers' Party.(Nazi) are Communists. Or social security is communist or to be a sociable person makes you a commie, or someone in the Democratic socialist is party is a Commie, So tell me is a group who sits down with business and come to a mutual agreement on whatever, Commies. So your trying to tell us that Warren and Bernie wants all businesses to be owned and run by the government, and that they want to set wages for the whole country, and that they think there should be no private property , it should all be owned by the government. Or that government should dictate what each business produces, One more question, If a action, concept or Idea exist before Communism or socialism were defined can it be communist or socialist.

 

[jbander]

Your party being supported by every major hate group in your country, that then makes you a hate group, is more logical then any organization that has the word social in it being communist.

 

[Nickyjo]

Do you agree with "from each according to his means, to each according to his needs"?

Actually, that principle, without us being explicit about it since we cannot admit we are Commies on some subjects, is what has been in effect for generations in the US and Europe. We have taxed the rich at higher rates and redistributed it to those in need. True, esp in the US, we also give the wealthy enormous unnecessary benefits, quite natural considering the political power that money has.

 

[Nickyjo]

You support all the communust policies that the Democrats come up with.

If you're saying social security is a safety net, you're wrong. It's wealth redistribution.

And why do you have a problem with that? We have been doing it for 80 years in various forms and we are all better off for it. (Hint: capitalism doesn't work perfectly.)

 

[Nickyjo]

Some commies are out in the open like Bernie and Warren.

And then there is Trump, who promised us a bigger, better plan than Obamacare. Or Bush, who gave us a prescription drug plan.

We are all commies, only on different subjects.