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The Commie behind every corner goofballs.

again You can't make up your own definition of socialism or communism to fit into a product that you need to attack democrats with , in fact take away the hate party's two total completes lies , democrats are commies and democrats want to take your guns away, both total lies but without which you couldn't exist as a party ,You wouldn't have the votes. it's almost pitiful and you know it, so you will sell your soul to make your definition on both socialism and guns fact. Yes I know exactly why you poor pups are putting up such a fuss on total lie's. I think it was you(TRUTHATALLCOST) that said the only thing that democrats don't do anymore is the means of production is owned and run by the government. Which kind of throws a wrench into your sales pitch , that one main tenet is needed for communism or socialism to exist , so your saying its not there, so your saying there is no socialism/communism, thanks that's my point. You said democrats still do everything else other then means of production comment, but that is just nonsense , Does government own everything in this country , all natural resources and your town you live in :IN Commie land there is no privately owned anything. Collectivism, no competition in production or in the marketplace, government controlling the level of production, classless society, Commie absolutely no religion.
TRUTHATALLCOST SAYS THAT ALL THESE THINGS EXIST IN OUR COUNTRY< IN FACT EVERYONE IN THE HATE PARTY SAY THE EXAMPLES LISTED EXIST IN THIS COUNTRY. WHICH OF COURSE IS BULL**** TAKE AWAY THE COMMIE ROUTINE AND THE LIE ABOUT THE DEMS. WANTING TO TAKE ALL THEIR GUNS AWAY AND THIS RIGHT WING FORM OF GOVERNMENT that EXIST NOW WILL SIMPLY DISAPPEAR_THEY NEED THESE TWO LIES TO EXIST.

I've never said anything to the effect of 'Democrats are commies', but you don't seem capable of comprehending anything other than that, so I guess I'll leave you to clutch your pearls.
 
It's become nothing more than wealth redistribution.
You are a proud representative of the right, you are clueless. The way money is redistributed in this country is tax law. The biggest lie in many decades is the tickle down lie, that will soon destroy capitalism in this country . but it is from the wacko right so you think it's a good idea without even thinking. The only this this hate group offers this country is all bad and against the best interest of this country. The concepts that control your relationship with this hate group are mostly lies that you are excepting. In doing that you are simply a detriment to America, it's constitution and it's flag. You have to go , for the sake of this country.
 
Who would that be? Is there where you falsely claim that tax cuts = giving people money?
WE are dealing with a 2 year old, so we have to make it simple, you don't cut taxes that will simply increase the debt. And you don't cut taxes just to hand over money to your chosen group.
 
Still mad about the election, bro? :lamo
Your party exist because of brain dead people that all make their choices by straining everything through a hate screen. You people are as boring as boring gets. You offer this country nothing, zero, zilch, nada. By the way scum bag winning is the best thing that could happen for democrats , small time.
 
I've never said anything to the effect of 'Democrats are commies', but you don't seem capable of comprehending anything other than that, so I guess I'll leave you to clutch your pearls.
Hell that's in no way the point I made. This is what you said "Government owning and controlling every aspect of commerce is perhaps the only part of the Manifesto that isn't actively embraced today by a significant portion of the left" and I responded showing totally that you don't have a clue, your saying that this ideas are embraced in this country,Which makes a total mockery of your thinking SHOW US WERE THESE ITEMS/IDEAS ARE PRESENT AND EMBRACED IN THIS COUNTRY<:from my post that your trying to hide from------"think it was you(TRUTHATALLCOST) that said the only thing that democrats don't do anymore is the means of production is owned and run by the government. Which kind of throws a wrench into your sales pitch , that one main tenet is needed for communism or socialism to exist , so your saying its not there, so your saying there is no socialism/communism, thanks that's my point. then You said democrats still do everything else other then means of production comment, but that is just nonsense , Does government own everything in this country , all natural resources and your town you live in :IN Commie land there is no privately owned anything. Collectivism, no competition in production or in the marketplace, government controlling the level of production, classless society, Commie absolutely no religion. BUDDY YOU HAVE NO CLUE AND THIS PROVES IT SO GO RIGHT AHEAD AND DISAPPEAR AND HIDE FROM YOUR OWN COMMENT.
 
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The commies are too busy trying to help Trump get re-elected to be worrying about taking over businesses....or so the very liberal people would want us to believe.
would make no sense ever to line scumbag up with communist because we have the Nazi Party who by the way supports you, your party and your leader, in fact all of them the kkk and the white supremacists support you your party and your leader for the first time in the history of this country , you should be proud but I must point out who your party is aligned with don't I/
 
would make no sense ever to line scumbag up with communist because we have the Nazi Party who by the way supports you, your party and your leader, in fact all of them the kkk and the white supremacists support you your party and your leader for the first time in the history of this country , you should be proud but I must point out who your party is aligned with don't I/

I am a green. We will take any vote we can get. We are not particular. In the mean time, better look under your bed before you go to bed on election eve. There could be some of those Great FaceBook Meme Monsters out to get you.
 
Your party exist because of brain dead people that all make their choices by straining everything through a hate screen. You people are as boring as boring gets. You offer this country nothing, zero, zilch, nada. By the way scum bag winning is the best thing that could happen for democrats , small time.

We built this country. :lamo
 
WE are dealing with a 2 year old, so we have to make it simple, you don't cut taxes that will simply increase the debt. And you don't cut taxes just to hand over money to your chosen group.

No, y'all are acting likr 2 year olds...lol.
 
Obviously you don't understand the verse, that is why I suggested you read it in context.

May I also point out that as a serial entrepreneur who has only had 5 W-2s in 25 years, I don't think one would accuse me of promoting communism. I do, however, believe in social responsibility, and that stewardship of our blessing extends to caring for those that are less blessed. That sir, is a pervasive Biblical theme.

You support communism every time you pull the (D) at the ballot box. There were entreprenuers in the Politburo, too. Hugo Chavez's daughter is worth $4 billion. I'm sure she loves communism, too.
 
You support communism every time you pull the (D) at the ballot box. There were entreprenuers in the Politburo, too. Hugo Chavez's daughter is worth $4 billion. I'm sure she loves communism, too.
Every time you open your yap , if someone on the left even takes the time to respond to a 5th grader and respond to your gibberish, Your gibberish is always made of things that you have zero clue what they even mean, every response has made you look like less then, less then everyone else here. your not bright, your not truthful, you in no way contribute to the thread, your like a child throwing around your insults to others, I will admit you are funny sometimes but my guess is you don't mean to be. You are one big bore ass. By the way, everyone here knows you don't like me and think I'm dumb , so you really don't have to go there but then it would take away the only response you can come up with anybody, so go ahead, do the I don't like you , you are dumb routine. I will leave you with at least something here. You can thank me later.
 
We built this country. :lamo
Red necks didn't build this country and they were bright people . so there you are again, on the outside looking in.
 
Not a clue about me or socialism or communism, other then your own made up definition of communism and socialism . you don't seem to have a clue about that at all. , You don't get your own definition of socialism or communism because there already is one and big guy you wasting bandwidth trying to make up a definition to fit into your bull****. It just doesn't work that way. By the way you right now are commenting to a person(me) who is probably the biggest capitalist that you know. I've made more then half my income off the markets for 50 years now. My guess by your response is that your just a pup.

Again, if you cannot already figure out that treating a philosophy as if it were religion is not a bad idea then there is no hope for you. Parroting the words of marx without actually thinking about them is typical of the anti communist and you are no different. Philosophy is about thinking about things and seeing whether they are applicable. It is not about regurgitating what has already been written and demanding it be followed without thought. If you wish to have an intelligent cpnversatoion about communism then discuss how those words are applicable in todays world instead of demanding we follow them just because someone said them.

Quoting from the manifesto as if it were about the communist philosophy merely demonstrates your lack of education. Telling me that you can make money also is not an indicator that you are educated either in the philosophy of capitalism or communism. It's just boasting to make yourself feel better while leaving me with a so what has that got to do with anything feeling.
 
Again, if you cannot already figure out that treating a philosophy as if it were religion is not a bad idea then there is no hope for you. Parroting the words of marx without actually thinking about them is typical of the anti communist and you are no different. Philosophy is about thinking about things and seeing whether they are applicable. It is not about regurgitating what has already been written and demanding it be followed without thought. If you wish to have an intelligent cpnversatoion about communism then discuss how those words are applicable in todays world instead of demanding we follow them just because someone said them.

Quoting from the manifesto as if it were about the communist philosophy merely demonstrates your lack of education. Telling me that you can make money also is not an indicator that you are educated either in the philosophy of capitalism or communism. It's just boasting to make yourself feel better while leaving me with a so what has that got to do with anything feeling.
Like I said not a clue ,May I quote you "Quoting from the manifesto as if it were about the communist philosophy merely demonstrates your lack of education."THAT HAS ME ROLLING ON THE FLOOR, Back to your quote"Telling me that you can make money also is not an indicator that you are educated either in the philosophy of capitalism or communism. It's just boasting to make yourself feel better while leaving me with a so what has that got to do with anything feeling." HELL YOUR GOING OUT IN SO MANY DIRECTIONS I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU POINT IS< ME TELLING YOU I"VE MADE MORE THEN HALF MY LIFETIME INCOME OFF OF THE MARKETS< IS SIMPLY RESPONDING TO YOU SUGGESTING THAT I SUPPORT COMMUNISM< WHAT I WAS SAYING IS THAT I"M AS CAPITALIST AS THEY GET> The real point is that What I'm saying isn't supported by unreadable small print as yours is. So again , I have no real clue what your point is, nor at this point do I even care. So you can have the last word ,what was it , that I'm stupid dumb and you don't like me. Whoopy ding.
 
Like I said not a clue ,May I quote you "Quoting from the manifesto as if it were about the communist philosophy merely demonstrates your lack of education."THAT HAS ME ROLLING ON THE FLOOR,
What it should have you is feeling ashamed that you do not know the difference between a document created for the purpose of stirring up revolution among the masses and a philosophy of economics which communism is.
Back to your quote"Telling me that you can make money also is not an indicator that you are educated either in the philosophy of capitalism or communism. It's just boasting to make yourself feel better while leaving me with a so what has that got to do with anything feeling." HELL YOUR GOING OUT IN SO MANY DIRECTIONS I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU POINT IS< ME TELLING YOU I"VE MADE MORE THEN HALF MY LIFETIME INCOME OFF OF THE MARKETS< IS SIMPLY RESPONDING TO YOU SUGGESTING THAT I SUPPORT COMMUNISM< WHAT I WAS SAYING IS THAT I"M AS CAPITALIST AS THEY GET>
Amusing. Can you pleas copy and paste my words where i said you support communism. I have been saying that you do not have a clue what communism is.



The real point is that What I'm saying isn't supported by unreadable small print as yours is. So again , I have no real clue what your point is, nor at this point do I even care. So you can have the last word ,what was it , that I'm stupid dumb and you don't like me. Whoopy ding.

You have not given any support. Like a theist all you have done is quote the words and pretend that they must be followed without question. You have not supported that what marx said is still relevant to todays world. Again, you behave like a theist merely repeating words and demanding they be obeyed.

Saying you support communism would be a joke when you cannot even think like a philosopher.
 
You only have half of a wick burning, if your suggesting that somehow communism and socialism definition can change to fit your goofball comments and insults on these pages. trying to prove that it exist in any form in this country in 2019 ,is simply stupid. I know taking it away from the hate party is hard for them but I think they should operate on the truth, not made up bull**** to buy their votes with but then of course these hate party members don't realize that they are just being tooled for their vote. Like I have always said , Without lies and distortions the hate party couldn't or wouldn't exist.
 
What it should have you is feeling ashamed that you do not know the difference between a document created for the purpose of stirring up revolution among the masses and a philosophy of economics which communism is.

Amusing. Can you pleas copy and paste my words where i said you support communism. I have been saying that you do not have a clue what communism is.





You have not given any support. Like a theist all you have done is quote the words and pretend that they must be followed without question. You have not supported that what marx said is still relevant to todays world. Again, you behave like a theist merely repeating words and demanding they be obeyed.

Saying you support communism would be a joke when you cannot even think like a philosopher.
Your going off the deep end cowboy, no you can't make me feel ashamed over the fact that you have no clue, nor do I car about what your talking about.. Asking me where You said I'm a commie ,Doesn't even matter , I'm not going to even look for, I told you I really don't care what your point is at this time. And I've told you I have no clue what your talking about , so me thinking you said that I'm a commie is simply me trying to pull anything out of what your saying. You thinking I am a communist seem to rattle around your words , so I responded to it. And sorry buddy communism and socialism both have their own definition. You don't get to make up your own.
 
Your going off the deep end cowboy, no you can't make me feel ashamed over the fact that you have no clue, nor do I car about what your talking about.. Asking me where You said I'm a commie ,Doesn't even matter , I'm not going to even look for, I told you I really don't care what your point is at this time. And I've told you I have no clue what your talking about , so me thinking you said that I'm a commie is simply me trying to pull anything out of what your saying. You thinking I am a communist seem to rattle around your words , so I responded to it. And sorry buddy communism and socialism both have their own definition. You don't get to make up your own.

I did not make up my own definition. i gave the definition with some thought behind the words. Where as on the other hand all you have done is copy and paste without bothering to think at all. You treat philosophy as if it were a religion. That all is needed is to blindly follow what others say.
 
We will keep this simple for obvious reasons. There is no communism or socialism in the democratic party or anywhere in this country , never met one in my lifetime... Every single right wing wacko has their own personal definition of socialism and communism, You don't get to define it for you personal hatred, there is already a definition for both of them .

There is one Tenet that is the prime controlling factor in both Communism and socialism. Without which there is no socialism or communism. I have one simple question for you (I promised to keep this simple) when was the last time anyone has ever come up to you in this country and said "you know I think it would be a good idea that all businesses should be owned and run by the government. "

You goofballs throw the Socialism/communism stupidity around all the time but you have no clue what your talking about ever. The prime tenet of socialism/communism is The means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the government. , without that there is zero communism or socialism and we can go one further step then that .Go to the real definition of communism or socialism in the encyclopedia and take all the main tenets of socialism/communism. , bring them back and with them show us where and who and why you think any aspect of the main tenets of Socialism/communism is ever supported in this country other then by a trickle of people and not as you have it by being half this countries population. This Commie behind every corner routine is a idiots comment.

You don't like Communism but you don't say why.

You just demonize it without explaining why so many people embrace it.
 
You don't like Communism but you don't say why.

You just demonize it without explaining why so many people embrace it.
Maybe you could show me the part that said I don't like communism. I'll wait-------- I guess I don't need to keep you there. Capitalism is the only way, if you make up your own definition of socialism or communism then argue from that point ';ll simply that you don't get to make up your own definition, because there is one already. If we can get rid of this form of the rights party, then we can put back the promise of the potential to get ahead in our capitalistic system. If we stick with the hate party standard then capitalism will die it can't exist without that said promise for long,. We at this point are watching the destruction of capitalism , forces every dollar of new wealth in this country to the top. The trickle down lie(1981) is the destroyer of capitalism, the right will keep it even under the threat of the destruction of our system because the reality is that the right only reason to exist is the transfer of all wealth to the top. This being as good as any thing to suprt my premise.
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Looks kind of sad doesn't it. Reality is that this chart is less then half the problem. The majority of the problem is the monstrous increased debt taken on by everyone except the golden few , That golden few also own the debt structure,
 
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Familiar elements of communism do in fact saturate the American left, but largely on a subconscious level. Government doesn't own the means of production in the USA, rather the largest companies own government. This exists on an international level, where some of the companies influencing American policies aren't even American companies, and many American companies that wield power in D.C. run the actual production side of their business outside the country, in China or India for example.

Communisms' legacy still influences the American left in the collectivism that the left employs in order to categorize people based upon identity and an encouraged sense of victimhood, which then becomes a voting bloc. The left's proletariat is comprised of anyone who has decided that society has wronged them based upon race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. And the modern bourgeois which must be punished and ultimately eliminated is the white middle and working class that voted for Trump in 2016.



Communism is totalitarianism, or that has what it has been in the past. I doubt Marx envisioned what Stalin et al, allowed it to become.


When dems say "socialism", they are not talking in terms of it's classic definition, but more like "government sponsored", as in health care and social services.

I know of no liberal that actually wants a totalitarian state. I've never met one ( actually, I met a couple back in the 60s who were all out communists ).


But, the right likes to pin the more totalitarianistic connotation on dems because it is fear mongering and as such, furthers the right wing agenda,

Bernie has really pissed me off, as a dem, for using that term, when what he really is is a social democrat, that I could have lived with.


What we have in America is a mixture of oligarchial rule over public and private sectors, socialism for the rich, dynasty-ism, and a disappearing middle class and quite a large poor sector.

There is private enterprize, smaller businesses, and, as a dem, I want to see more smaller businesses, and less monopolies.
 
Damn right I hate communists. I hate communists as much as I hate fascists.

What I hate are people who call people communists who are not communists, the result of not understanding what the various terms actually mean.


I'm not a fan of ill-educated people. (Note that I did not say "low educated", there is a difference ).


I don't mind ill-educated people, just as long as they don't make false accusations and pretend to know stuff they do not know.
 
We will keep this simple for obvious reasons. There is no communism or socialism in the democratic party or anywhere in this country , never met one in my lifetime... Every single right wing wacko has their own personal definition of socialism and communism, You don't get to define it for you personal hatred, there is already a definition for both of them .

There is one Tenet that is the prime controlling factor in both Communism and socialism. Without which there is no socialism or communism. I have one simple question for you (I promised to keep this simple) when was the last time anyone has ever come up to you in this country and said "you know I think it would be a good idea that all businesses should be owned and run by the government. "

You goofballs throw the Socialism/communism stupidity around all the time but you have no clue what your talking about ever. The prime tenet of socialism/communism is The means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the government. , without that there is zero communism or socialism and we can go one further step then that .Go to the real definition of communism or socialism in the encyclopedia and take all the main tenets of socialism/communism. , bring them back and with them show us where and who and why you think any aspect of the main tenets of Socialism/communism is ever supported in this country other then by a trickle of people and not as you have it by being half this countries population. This Commie behind every corner routine is a idiots comment.

They want so many other things run by the government.


For me, that makes them socialists.
 
What I hate are people who call people communists who are not communists, the result of not understanding what the various terms actually mean.


I'm not a fan of ill-educated people. (Note that I did not say "low educated", there is a difference ).


I don't mind ill-educated people, just as long as they don't make false accusations and pretend to know stuff they do not know.

If you don't want to be labeled a communist, stop supporting communist policies. If it quacks, it's probably a duck. Right?
 
Communism is totalitarianism, or that has what it has been in the past. I doubt Marx envisioned what Stalin et al, allowed it to become.


When dems say "socialism", they are not talking in terms of it's classic definition, but more like "government sponsored", as in health care and social services.

I know of no liberal that actually wants a totalitarian state. I've never met one ( actually, I met a couple back in the 60s who were all out communists ).


But, the right likes to pin the more totalitarianistic connotation on dems because it is fear mongering and as such, furthers the right wing agenda,

Bernie has really pissed me off, as a dem, for using that term, when what he really is is a social democrat, that I could have lived with.


What we have in America is a mixture of oligarchial rule over public and private sectors, socialism for the rich, dynasty-ism, and a disappearing middle class and quite a large poor sector.

There is private enterprize, smaller businesses, and, as a dem, I want to see more smaller businesses, and less monopolies.
It's just a con, without the two lies that Democrats are Commie's and democrats want to take all the guns away from flag waving patriots like themselves. Without those two cons they would/couldn't exist. In fact they would have died of ugliness decades ago.. Their world is collapsing around them and that is definitely the best thing that could happen for this great country. The real conservative voice is just as relative has it has always been, a party will be created for that voice but it won't be call the republicans , the name is way to poisoned now. It won't be built on hate and the transfer of all new wealth to the top as they have achieved since 1981's trickle down lie. It will be a honest voice, a patriotic voice, 180 deg from what it is now.
 
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