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How many times do you have to be told?
Bs!But she is just a kid!
You know what though, even at that age, I still had friends who had the courage to remain my friends. Sounds like she didn't have that.
Bs!
Other stable kids go through similar circumstances and are not out there taking their life.
She doesn't deserve any special considerations because she did.
And just because she is a kid does not mean she is not responsible for taking her own life.
How can you even think otherwise?
Is that what you think?
That's nice!
This is all tertiary and irrelevant as to her responsibility.
"WE" have no such responsibility. Stop trying to place a burden that does not exist.
Good for you!
[sarcasm]Would you like to hold her teachers responsible for not intervening which may have prevented her eventually killing of herself?[/sarcasm]
[COLOR="#4422244"]And as a teacher I think that when ever you see actual bullying and teasing, that you should intervene to stop it.
By bullying the student.
Because that is what it is in essence.
Correct your actions or this will happen to you.
But it still does not mean that she is the only one responsible for her actions. Because she is.[/COLOR]
She wrote herself off.
Exactly.
Not even by what they did.
She is solely responsible.
And the stable ones are not out there taking there own life. Are they?
Regardless. It does not relieve her of her responsibility in taking her own life.
You are assuming that she was made more unstable. lol
Bs! She was unstable period.
Yes, the whole situation is so sad and depressing.
And you are wrong.As many times as it takes for you to admit that the only reason you won't answer the question is because to do so would put your position in a bad light.
But since you cannot even manage that...let's just move on and get back to the topic?
Have a nice day.
And?Because a lot of times kids don't think things through, they just react.
if you'd allow your own 12-15 year olds to be completely responsible for their own actions.........then I'd feel sincerely sorry for your children. As ChrisL said......she was just a child. We can't always hold children to the same levels of expected socialization as we do adults. You can't see this?
We are responsible for the action we take no matter our age. It hardly matters what level of socialization we have.
So children are simply responsible for their own socialization.....right? This is ridiculous.
And?
That does not excuse or relieve her of the responsibility in taking her own life.
What hell are you going on about that actually applies?if you'd allow your own 12-15 year olds to be completely responsible for their own actions.........then I'd feel sincerely sorry for your children. As ChrisL said......she was just a child. We can't always hold children to the same levels of expected socialization as we do adults. You can't see this?
And where is your link to factual proof that she was emotionally unstable before any of the bullying on any level, at any time in her life occurred?
If you have none, then you cannot know she was not rendered emotionally unstable by the abuse she received.
You can guess, hope or believe...but you cannot know.
lolWho does it benefit by blaming this child for being distraught and for making a mistake that she cannot take back?
What hell are you going on about that actually applies?
What circumstance are we talking about here?
Because most circumstance brought about by the child their self, they are responsible for.
Did I say such a thing? No.
She is the blame for her own actions. Nothing you said changes that. Nothing at all.Don't you get it that generally kids are not capable of critical-thinking skills and that their brains are still under development. Now if this was a 25, 30, 40 year old person, I might agree and say that perhaps yes, they maybe should think about how this will affect their friends and family and that maybe then it would be a "selfish" decision (although I'm still not sure), but seeing that this is a child who made a mistake and unfortunately cannot take THIS particular mistake back, I would say that you are being VERY unreasonable about it.
What hell are you going on about that actually applies?
What circumstance are we talking about here?
Because most circumstance brought about by the child their self, they are responsible for.
I freely admit that I do not have that information. And we may never have it.And where is your link to factual proof that she was emotionally unstable before any of the bullying on any level, at any time in her life occurred?
If you have none, then you cannot know she was not rendered emotionally unstable by the abuse she received.
You can guess, hope or believe...but you cannot know.
She is the blame for her own actions. Nothing you said changes that. Nothing at all.
And again, so it is clear.
What benefit? What purpose?
It stops the wrong people from being blamed as apparently is the wont of some here.
Stop blaming the wrong people and this portion of the discussion stops, and you may then be able to move on to ways to prevent the unpreventable.
You, evidently, appear to be an individual who has a problem taking responsibility for much of anything. So, if this were your daughter, you'd not feel the tiniest shred of blame as her parent? Based on your views here, you'd likely not be on the top of many peoples' list of "capable baby-sitters." :shrug:
Oh....the old " So, if this were your daughter" crap
Teach your child morals and values of life and once, the kid gets the understanding of it....you're golden
Whats so freaking hard about that?
And?
That does not excuse or relieve her of the responsibility in taking her own life.
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