Texas Muslims Want to Build Homes and a Mosque. The Governor Says No. (3 Viewers)

[ModernDiogenes]

"In most circumstances, the development of a 400-acre field of corn and hay outside Josephine, Texas, would hardly stand out in the state, just another parcel of farmland set to become houses in the ever-expanding sprawl of the Dallas suburbs.

Yet in recent months, Gov. Greg Abbott has thrown himself into stopping the planned community. The reason? It would be anchored by a mosque.

“To be clear, Shariah law is not allowed in Texas,” the Republican governor wrote on social media in late February, reposting a video advertising the project. “Nor are Shariah cities.”

...Mr. Abbott has posted about the development at least 11 times in recent weeks. He suggested the developers may have violated fair housing and financial laws, and accused the Islamic center of conducting illegal funerals.

...The governor ordered multiple overlapping investigations. Not to be outdone, the state’s conservative attorney general, Ken Paxton, added his own criminal inquiry.

...the sudden attacks from Mr. Abbott caught members of the East Plano Islamic Center off guard. The center and its congregants have been fixtures in Plano for two decades, providing a food bank, mobile medical services and, in recent years, the city’s only warming center during cold weather.

The state’s actions have fueled opposition to the proposed housing development, known as EPIC City, before any initial plans have been submitted. At a hearing on the project in Collin County, where part of it would be located, hours of public comment included expressions of anti-Muslim hostility.

...Andy Odom, the pastor at a nearby Presbyterian Church who has had regular breakfasts with Imam Bashir, said he found the community welcoming. “They’ve done nothing but try and be the best neighbors to everyone around them,” he said. Amid the negative attention, Pastor Odom said he reached out to offer support. “I’ve been personally praying for them,” he said."

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Meanwhile, they don't mind pushing draconian Christian law on the state.

I feel sorry for anyone how has to move to Texas.

The link doesn’t work.

Hmmmm…

It sort of depends.

You can’t have a town planning a neighborhood literally designed to block access to other groups, religions, their houses of worship, etc. So this property would have to be open to everyone, not just one group, race, religion, etc.

If the developers are not doing that there should be no problem letting them build simply because the developers are Muslims.

If, however, they are building a neighborhood only for their one group, closed to others, that’s a problem.

Since the link is broken is there more information on this? Would the development be open to all?

 

[Nickyjo]

Oh yes, America was founded on the Christian faith. You can deny it all day long but I have showed you that it was. Churches sprang up all over America. Not Mosques. Why? Because America was Christian.

I'm not the one lying.

Lees

I thought that many of the founders were Deists. But anyway, churches did indeed spring up all over the country, (tho sadly, some of the Christians didn’t listen to Christ and participated in genocide.) And then came Synagogs. Now it’s Mosques, and some Hindu temples here and there. Ain’t America great?

 

[Lees]

Two wrong names for the Civil War used by Confederates and “lost cause” lie perpetuators.

The proclamation did, in fact, free slaves in secessionist states.

That the slave owners didn’t recognize/abide the lawful Presidential proclamation is irrelevant to that fact.

Following Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation, roughly 500,000 slaves held in Confederate states escaped and fled north to join the Union Army.

More @Lees fiction.

There were several reasons for the NYC draft riots. Enactment of the 1863 Enrollment Act being the primary reason.

The Emancipation Proclamation freed no slaves. Lincoln had no authority to declare free any slaves in the seceding states. The slaves he could have freed in the North, he refused to. The Emancipation was a joke. A military manuver, not a humanitarian one.

Those New York yankees knew how to deal with their black problem...didn't they? I wonder how many of those that were lyched or killed, were runaway slaves from the South. Or, how many were free negros?

Lees

 

[Lees]

I thought that many of the founders were Deists. But anyway, churches did indeed spring up all over the country, (tho sadly, some of the Christians didn’t listen to Christ and participated in genocide.) And then came Synagogs. Now it’s Mosques, and some Hindu temples here and there. Ain’t America great?

In 1787 there were some Deists. But the founding of America began with the peopling of America from Europe. And as I mentioned, that began with the arrival of the Mayflower and continued on with the arrival of more Christians from Europe. which is why the Country became Christian.

What do you mean some Christians didn't listen to Christ?

Lees

 

[Fledermaus]

The Emancipation Proclamation freed no slaves. Lincoln had no authority to declare free any slaves in the seceding states. The slaves he could have freed in the North, he refused to. The Emancipation was a joke. A military manuver, not a humanitarian one.

Those New York yankees knew how to deal with their black problem...didn't they? I wonder how many of those that were lyched or killed, were runaway slaves from the South. Or, how many were free negros?

Lees

The statement "The Emancipation Proclamation freed no slaves" is a lie.

And the reason Lincoln could not free the slaves of the North have been presented to you and nauseum.

Why do you keep bringing it up as some "gotcha" is rather silly given that it was the Constitution that limited what Lincoln could do in the North. A Constitution later amended to do just that. An amendment that Lincoln never saw as his life was cut short by a Lost Cause coward that shot him from behind...


And the "Black Problem"? Sounds very much like the "Jewish Question".

 

[stealthycat]

how well are muslim nations on human rights/treatment of women ?

liberals desperate to get those customs/traditions going in the USA .... wow

 

[Gordy327]

how well are muslim nations on human rights/treatment of women ?

liberals desperate to get those customs/traditions going in the USA .... wow

The ones in this country who are seemingly not concerned with the treatment or rights of women are Christian conservatives. It's more apparent with every abortion restriction attempted or passed.

 

[stealthycat]

The ones in this country who are seemingly not concerned with the treatment or rights of women are Christian conservatives. It's more apparent with every abortion restriction attempted or passed.

Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, Saudi, Afghanistan, ........... at the bottom of human rights/women's rights, they're treated like dogs. Not to mention views on LGBT views with muslims


liberals - fighting hard to get all that in the USA !! YAY !!!

 

[Gordy327]

Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, Saudi, Afghanistan, ........... at the bottom of human rights/women's rights, they're treated like dogs. Not to mention views on LGBT views with muslims


liberals - fighting hard to get all that in the USA !! YAY !!!

Much like Christian conservatives here. They're the ones pushing to limit rights for women, gays, or whomever they deem lesser.

 

[stealthycat]

Much like Christian conservatives here. They're the ones pushing to limit rights for women, gays, or whomever they deem lesser.

no, nothing like Christian conservatives , almost exactly opposite

in fact, so different, Christians have fought Muslims in the middle east for 2,000 years and as we see with Israel/Palestine/Iran still fighting today

 

[Gordy327]

no, nothing like Christian conservatives , almost exactly opposite

in fact, so different, Christians have fought Muslims in the middle east for 2,000 years and as we see with Israel/Palestine/Iran still fighting today

Exactly like Christian conservatives, trying to restrict the rights of women, says, ect..

 

[Tigerace117]

The Emancipation Proclamation freed no slaves. Lincoln had no authority to declare free any slaves in the seceding states. The slaves he could have freed in the North, he refused to. The Emancipation was a joke. A military manuver, not a humanitarian one.

Those New York yankees knew how to deal with their black problem...didn't they? I wonder how many of those that were lyched or killed, were runaway slaves from the South. Or, how many were free negros?

Lees

Well gee, we know the South kidnapped free African Americans into slavery on a routine basis....and the world laughed at the South’s panicked screeching that Lincoln couldn’t free the slaves.

As he did so.

Over, and over, and over again.

 

[Tigerace117]

how well are muslim nations on human rights/treatment of women ?

liberals desperate to get those customs/traditions going in the USA .... wow

Those customs have already existed in America since the beginning, which makes the pretense of your worry all the more laughable.

 

[stealthycat]

Exactly like Christian conservatives, trying to restrict the rights of women, says, ect..

almost exact opposite

 

[Fledermaus]

almost exact opposite

Except it isn't.

 

[Gordy327]

almost exact opposite

So Christian conservatives are ok with abortion, same sex marriage, and the like?

 

[stealthycat]

So Christian conservatives are ok with abortion, same sex marriage, and the like?

anyone who thinks Christianity and Muslim religions are the same don't know anything about them

 

[Fledermaus]

anyone who thinks Christianity and Muslim religions are the same don't know anything about them

The question was ...

So Christian conservatives are ok with abortion, same sex marriage, and the like?

 

[ColdHardTruth]

how well are muslim nations on human rights/treatment of women ?

They are bad. We are not going to allow them to abuse women here.

liberals desperate to get those customs/traditions going in the USA .... wow

This is just bullshit.

 

[bomberfox]

These “original intent” guys dont realize that intent is not a replacement for pure textual reading. If the text says something clearly you dont get to change it. Where interpretation comes in is when the text is not so clear in application.

 

[Lees]

The statement "The Emancipation Proclamation freed no slaves" is a lie.

And the reason Lincoln could not free the slaves of the North have been presented to you and nauseum.

Why do you keep bringing it up as some "gotcha" is rather silly given that it was the Constitution that limited what Lincoln could do in the North. A Constitution later amended to do just that. An amendment that Lincoln never saw as his life was cut short by a Lost Cause coward that shot him from behind...


And the "Black Problem"? Sounds very much like the "Jewish Question".

No, it's the truth. Have you ever read it?

Lincoln didn't free the slaves in the North because he didn't want the slaves free in the North.

I keep bringing it up because others keep bringing it up.

Well, whatever it sounds like, those New York yankees knew how to handled it, handle it.

Lees

 

[stealthycat]

The question was ...

So Christian conservatives are ok with abortion, same sex marriage, and the like?

I imagine some are? you'd have to ask/poll

I'm fine with same sex marriage for instance, I'm against killing unborn babies

Now, back to Muslims being the same as Christians as far as treating women and LGBT ......... you think its comparable too ?

 

[stealthycat]

They are bad. We are not going to allow them to abuse women here.

LOL yeah right

do you think they'll be anything other than how muslims regard and treat women/kids/LGBTQ etc ? Look to muslim nations - how many accept LGBTQ ?

Male same-sex activity is illegal and punishable by imprisonment in Iraq, Kuwait, Egypt, Oman, Syria, and the United Arab Emirates. It is also punishable by death in Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar.

This is just bullshit.

except it isn't ..... that's what the left liberal side fights hard for

they fight hard to keep human trafficking/drug trafficking,/kid trafficking/kid porn at southern border
they fight hard to keep illegally here people here
they fight hard to ensure muslim tradition gets deeply rooted in the USA ( see above on how Male same-sex activity is illegal and punishable by imprisonment in Iraq, Kuwait, Egypt, Oman, Syria, and the United Arab Emirates. It is also punishable by death in Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar.)

good 'ol Democrats ...........

 

[Lees]

Well gee, we know the South kidnapped free African Americans into slavery on a routine basis....and the world laughed at the South’s panicked screeching that Lincoln couldn’t free the slaves.

As he did so.

Over, and over, and over again.

What kidnapping?

Lees

 

[Tigerace117]

What kidnapping?

Lees

The Confederate Army kidnapped free African Americans into slavery, as I already proved to you.

The exact same crime the Nazis carried out against European civilians across the continent, in fact.