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Texas man files legal action to probe ex-partner’s out-of-state abortion

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Interesting connotations. Thoughts?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2024/05/03/texas-abortion-investigations/Texas man files legal action to probe ex-partner’s out-of-state abortion

Texas man files legal action to probe ex-partner’s out-of-state abortion​

The previously unreported petition reflects a potential new antiabortion strategy to block women from ending their pregnancies in states where abortion is legal.
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By Caroline Kitchener
May 3, 2024 at 5:00 a.m. EDT


As soon as Collin Davis found out his ex-partner was planning to travel to Colorado to have an abortion in late February, the Texas man retained a high-powered antiabortion attorney — who court records show immediately issued a legal threat.

If the woman proceeded with the abortion, even in a state where the procedure remains legal, Davis would seek a full investigation into the circumstances surrounding the abortion and “pursue wrongful-death claims against anyone involved in the killing of his unborn child,” the lawyer wrote in a letter, according to records.

Now, Davis has disclosed his former partner’s abortion to a state district court in Texas, asking for the power to investigate what his lawyer characterizes as potentially illegal activity in a state where almost all abortions are banned.

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The previously unreported petition was submitted under an unusual legal mechanism often used in Texas to investigate suspected illegal actions before a lawsuit is filed. The petition claims Davis could sue either under the state’s wrongful-death statute or the novel Texas law known as Senate Bill 8 that allows private citizens to file suit against anyone who “aids or abets” an illegal abortion.

If the woman proceeded with the abortion, even in a state where the procedure remains legal, Davis would seek a full investigation into the circumstances surrounding the abortion and “pursue wrongful-death claims against anyone involved in the killing of his unborn child,” the lawyer wrote in a letter, according to records.

Now, Davis has disclosed his former partner’s abortion to a state district court in Texas, asking for the power to investigate what his lawyer characterizes as potentially illegal activity in a state where almost all abortions are banned.

The previously unreported petition was submitted under an unusual legal mechanism often used in Texas to investigate suspected illegal actions before a lawsuit is filed. The petition claims Davis could sue either under the state’s wrongful-death statute or the novel Texas law known as Senate Bill 8 that allows private citizens to file suit against anyone who “aids or abets” an illegal abortion.
The decision to target an abortion that occurred outside of Texas represents a potential new strategy by antiabortion activists to achieve a goal many in the movement have been working toward since Roe v. Wade was overturned: stopping women from traveling out of state to end their pregnancies. Crossing state lines for abortion care remains legal nationwide.
The case also illustrates the role that men who disapprove of their partners’ decisions could play in surfacing future cases that may violate abortion bans — either by filing their own civil lawsuits or by reporting the abortions to law enforcement.




Under Texas law, performing an abortion is a crime punishable by up to a lifetime in prison and up to $100,000 in civil penalties. Women seeking abortions cannot be charged under the state’s abortion restrictions, but the laws target anyone who performs or helps to facilitate an illegal abortion, including those who help distribute abortion pills.
Davis’s petition — filed under Texas’s Rule 202 by Jonathan Mitchell, a prominent antiabortion attorney known for devising new and aggressive legal strategies to crack down on abortion — follows a lawsuit filed last spring by another Texas man, Marcus Silva, who is attempting to sue three women who allegedly helped his ex-wife obtain abortion pills.
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zincwarrior said:
Interesting connotations. Thoughts?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2024/05/03/texas-abortion-investigations/Texas man files legal action to probe ex-partner’s out-of-state abortion
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The Texas nutter is obsessed, she's not even with him anymore, and likely regrets ever knowing him. He's stalking her and he should suffer the consequences. Surprised any woman even wants to live in a shithole like Texas, seems that more bad than good goes on in that state for its citizens.
 
Old 'N Chill said:
The Texas nutter is obsessed, she's not even with him anymore, and likely regrets ever knowing him. He's stalking her and he should suffer the consequences. Surprised any woman even wants to live in a shithole like Texas, seems that more bad than good goes on in that state for its citizens.
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The attorney he hired that made the threat needs to be charged with stalking as well.
 
zincwarrior said:
I THINK...when she returns to Texas he could sue her and anyone who helped her that lived in Texas including friends and I think even try to go after the airline/bus if one was taken.
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I guess they'll probably argue that, but I see this easily falling under an "undue burden" in the Dormant section of the Commerce Clause, because if many people will do the same thing, then Texas will be excising sway over interstate commerce by preventing people from going out-of-state under threat of legal reprisal.

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zincwarrior said:
I THINK...when she returns to Texas he could sue her and anyone who helped her that lived in Texas including friends and I think even try to go after the airline/bus if one was taken.
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I hope it's taken that far just to show America how insane Republicans have become about controlling women and anyone who helps them.
 
the laws target anyone who performs or helps to facilitate an illegal abortion, including those who help distribute abortion pills.
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Here is what is going to be the key. NY taking the woman to a state where abortion is legal, they are not helping to facilitate an illegal abortion.
 
Napoleon said:
This is a reasonable compromise. Men have an interest in their offspring and should be entitled to compensatory damages for a unilateral decision to terminate his offspring just as he would be held liable for financial support in the opposite case.
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Why? He's not the one having his body used for gestation.
 
Napoleon said:
This is a reasonable compromise. Men have an interest in their offspring and should be entitled to compensatory damages for a unilateral decision to terminate his offspring just as he would be held liable for financial support in the opposite case.
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If a man is set on having children he should only sleep with women who agree to have his children. There's your compromise.
 
Napoleon said:
This is a reasonable compromise. Men have an interest in their offspring and should be entitled to compensatory damages for a unilateral decision to terminate his offspring just as he would be held liable for financial support in the opposite case.
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He couldn't keep his pants zipped, eh?
 
So....if the fetus was aborted in another state.....and, supposedly, the fetal tissue disposed of there....how does this guy establish that HE is the father?

All she has to say is: you're not the daddy.

Do baby daddy's now get to insist on DNA testing during gestation where paternity is denied?
 
Napoleon said:
This is a reasonable compromise. Men have an interest in their offspring and should be entitled to compensatory damages for a unilateral decision to terminate his offspring just as he would be held liable for financial support in the opposite case.
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Nope.

He is not entitled to compensation.
 
zincwarrior said:
Thoughts?
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Doctors should take one of her eggs, and some of his sperm, and through in vitro fertilization implant the fertilized embryo into his abdomen.
Pat him on the back, push him out the door, and send him the bill for all the medical time and effort spent on the process.


Vote In November people - or this is going to get worse. Way worse.
 
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