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Texas is now in a World of Hurt

Conservative said:
Your blatant lies and distortions are common place in everything you post. You place blame and divert from the reality as to the role and responsibilities of the President showing total lack of understanding of the Constitution. You hate Trump for person reasons as you cannot offer anything he has done that personally affects you. You want people to believe you care about everyone else but you don't , this is purely political and shows your need for a public servant in the WH so again you can ignore the attacks on individual freedoms and the march towards that socialist utopia that exists no where else in the world

I will remind you that there is a 3.5% death to infection rate in this country, 1.3% in TX but there is a 100% death rate for abortions in this country, both affected by personal choice.

Our economy is experiencing a V shaped recovery which of course doesn't suit your agenda. After Trump's re-election in November you will be long gone from any debate forum but you will still not understand that you are in the minority in this country

Explain to us all how 6 months into this pandemic the rising infection rates is Trump's fault? Can you explain why you ignore the 1.3 million recovering from the virus and millions of others infected but recovering without medical treatment, like my daughter and her family?

You post pretty graphs that have no context. do you realize that anyone who tests positive for the virus is reported to the state and makes the national count? Recoveries are ignored, lowering the death toll is ignored, all for your own supposed personal gain. How is Biden going to make things better for you and your family and do you believe the 58 million 401K holders are going to risk their investment on a Biden and liberal Administration?
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Excellent post and spot on as to the poster you are referring to In numerous posts over the past months when idiots would say "Trump bungled the response" I ask them specifically what they mean. What I get are stupid comments like "Trump said this was going to be over soon" as if Trump's every utterance is cause for panic and upset and made the virus infect Americans. Personally, I think the shutdown was the very worst thing to do but I also realize that if Trump had not shut down the economy, he would have been charged with every single death. Even as it is, as the poster you replied to is regurgitating from the MSM, they STILL claim Trump is responsible. Almost every single one of them is just parroting MSM and the DNC in demonizing Trump in the hopes that their left wiong agenda can fully take hold in January of 2021.

We see what that agenda produces in places like Portland, Seattle, Chicago, Minneapolis. But, like socialism wannabees, they assert that it will be different.
 
Conservative said:
Of your 124,146 posts you are a perfect example of my point exactly, this is entertainment for you, not debate as you are incapable of debating any issues. You want to blame Trump for the rising infection rate while ignoring the rising recovery rate and the fact that everyone testing positively is part of the state count regardless of severity. The 1.3 million recoveries from the virus pale in comparison to those who have recovered without medial treatment.
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lol, more irony.
 
X Factor said:
Thank you, Di. I appreciate it more than you know.
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All hyperbole and political gamesmanship aside, this thing is serious, especially for anyone over age of 50.


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Paradoxical said:
Excellent post and spot on as to the poster you are referring to In numerous posts over the past months when idiots would say "Trump bungled the response" I ask them specifically what they mean. What I get are stupid comments like "Trump said this was going to be over soon" as if Trump's every utterance is cause for panic and upset and made the virus infect Americans. Personally, I think the shutdown was the very worst thing to do but I also realize that if Trump had not shut down the economy, he would have been charged with every single death. Even as it is, as the poster you replied to is regurgitating from the MSM, they STILL claim Trump is responsible. Almost every single one of them is just parroting MSM and the DNC in demonizing Trump in the hopes that their left wiong agenda can fully take hold in January of 2021.

We see what that agenda produces in places like Portland, Seattle, Chicago, Minneapolis. But, like socialism wannabees, they assert that it will be different.
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Exactly, all Democratic cities with Democratic Mayors and Governors, that doesn't resonate with the left as they will always blame someone else other than their own party leaders
 
W_Heisenberg said:
Coronavirus data disappeared after Trump administration shifted control from CDC

Trump is a lying sack of crap.

And he's going to try to lie his way through this pandemic.
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LOL, more propaganda, lies, and distortions, I have posted the world data and you ignored it all because of a political agenda. You going to explain to us again how PPP was misused and is an expense? You lie your way through every election cycle, wonder what benefit you get out of the DNC?
 
Conservative said:
You going to explain to us again how PPP was misused and is an expense?
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Are you going to explain to me how receiving government grants is part of the whole "small-government" crusade?
 
Conservative said:
LOL, more propaganda, lies, and distortions, I have posted the world data and you ignored it all because of a political agenda. You going to explain to us again how PPP was misused and is an expense? You lie your way through every election cycle, wonder what benefit you get out of the DNC?
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See??
 
ObamacareFail said:
You are as usual, completely making it up as you go along. Nobody, Trump or otherwise is suggesting opening public schools without common sense precautions. As for spreading death and letting the old and those with other conditions be damned, perhaps you should talk to the democrat governor of New York who forced elderly covid 19 patients into ill prepared nursing homes which sigificantly contributed to the death toll in New York.
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What common sense precautions? That are required by the state?

Good point on nursing home related deaths, of which comprise 42% of all COVID deaths. Every gov "forced" what law was used to direct as was done, besides just Cuomo alone. What % of nursing home related deaths were there in NY state? Compared to the nation? I mean, if over 42%, maybe you have a point. Otherwise, your words are worthless. I know what the % is. But you're the one making the claim and thus have the burden of proof. So, you tell us. How much worse is NY state than the rest of the nation? Tell us.

"Fail" is the operative word in your handle.
 
calamity said:
All hyperbole and political gamesmanship aside, this thing is serious, especially for anyone over age of 50.


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You’re right, it is nasty business. I got more of the story this weekend. He tested positive just about 15 days before he died. For most of that time it didn’t seem that bad and he was home but when it did go bad it went bad very quickly. Pretty much nobody expected this would be the outcome even after knowing he had it.
 
While it is true that the majority of fatalities are of those 65 or older or with underlying conditions (comorbidity), 25% had no known comorbid conditions, or none at all. Moreover, those over 65 are some of the most productive, economically. I could cite to multiple studies that demonstrate this, but I'm not at my computer.

Those that argue that "well, it's culling the herd" or "children are safe" are both remarkably insensitive (or sociopathic), and ignorant of reality. According to the CDC, 33% of those who have survived hospitalization will have long-term effects. Among the effects on children (beyond carrying the disease to others) is MIS-C (Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children), which, while rare, can be fatal. Moreover, "a new study of nearly 60,000 people in South Korea found that children under 10 years old are the least likely age group to spread the virus—but those aged 10-19 were the most likely." What We Know About COVID-19 and Kids (WebMD).
 
X Factor said:
You’re right, it is nasty business. I got more of the story this weekend. He tested positive just about 15 days before he died. For most of that time it didn’t seem that bad and he was home but when it did go bad it went bad very quickly. Pretty much nobody expected this would be the outcome even after knowing he had it.
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Unfortunately there are no guarantees of making it through the infection even if the odds are in your favor. There have been plenty of cases where people feel better then suddenly take a drastic turn for the worst. One that comes to mind is the actor Nick Cordero who did not meet the profile of someone who would die from the disease. That's what should be in the mind of people when they assess risk. Because it's a novel virus and we don't understand all of the infection impacts, it's a shot in the dark. Doing everything in one's power to avoid contracting the disease seems pretty prudent.
 
It ain't Texas, but the problem is the same.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis stood outside the White House two months ago bragging about his state's triumph over the coronavirus.

"We succeeded and people just don't want to recognize it," he blustered. Then, jabbing his finger at reporters, he scolded the press: "You've got a lot of people in your profession who waxed poetically for weeks and weeks about how Florida was going to be just like New York," he said.
That was May 20.

DeSantis' earlier bravado fuels Florida's pandemic crisis - CNNPolitics
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Paradoxical said:
Rewriting history so as to not offend China. It came from Wuhan on 11-17-19. Almost a million people came from there BEFORE any shutdown and this can be proven by how many fly in and out. Only morons think this virus came from Europe.
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Well, in that case you can argue with the "morons" (epidemiologists), who provided the information that the NEW YORK (read the ****ing link), outbreak originated from Europe.
 
Conservative said:
Please explain to us why England's death per infection rate is almost triple the U.S. and 15 times greater than TX?
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Please explain why you keep asking the same ****ing question, time and time again, despite having been provided with answers time and time again? Do you have a short memory span, or what?
 
The Texas COVID-19 Death Surge Is Here, and It’s Terrifying

After a brief lockdown, Texas was one of the first states in the U.S. to reopen, at lightning speed. And after weeks of skyrocketing case totals—with local officials clashing with state leaders on everything from the reopening of bars to mask mandates—the inevitable surge in fatalities has arrived.

As of Monday, according to state health data, Texas had 385,924 total cumulative cases and 5,713 deaths. Just a week earlier, on July 20, Texas passed 4,000 deaths from the disease. To be clear, that means 20 percent of all deaths in the state happened in just six days.
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...and the next 6 days do not look much better.

...in hot zones like Texas where doctors are begging for plasma donations, bodies are being stored in refrigerated trucks, and crematoriums can’t keep pace with demand.

“We don’t do enough testing to begin with, and we certainly don’t do enough testing of school children,” said Redlener. “We just don’t have enough information to make completely evidence-based decisions here, and this tsunami is coming.”
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And, therein lies my bitch. Why are we so woefully unprepared? We've had months to get our **** together.

Oh yeah...Republicans. That's why.

:doh.
 
snakestretcher said:
Well, in that case you can argue with the "morons" (epidemiologists), who provided the information that the NEW YORK (read the ****ing link), outbreak originated from Europe.
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Remember, the goal is to blame China for the virus. That's all that matters. Never mind that each nation is supposed to be held accountable for its response, and that most industrialized nations have managed to prevent the crap show the US is in now. That US citizens are barred from entering certain countries is surely China's fault.

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snakestretcher said:
Well, in that case you can argue with the "morons" (epidemiologists), who provided the information that the NEW YORK (read the ****ing link), outbreak originated from Europe.
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You keep on believing that if it helps you stay friends with your Chinese neighbors in Europe.

Keep ignoring that it definitely originated in China and that NONE of the millions of Chinese who flew to America in planes to New York infected even one American.

PS. I read the links before and they were from April and only a smattering of them showed possible European origin. But, you go girl.
 
Paradoxical said:
You keep on believing that if it helps you stay friends with your Chinese neighbors in Europe.

Keep ignoring that it definitely originated in China and that NONE of the millions of Chinese who flew to America in planes to New York infected even one American.

PS. I read the links before and they were from April and only a smattering of them showed possible European origin. But, you go girl.
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That it originated in China is one thing, that it spread to other countries places the future contagion factor on those nations. It's why countries who have mismanaged the pandemic are now not allowed in certain countries. So where does the responsibility fall when it's one particular country that's the hot spot?
 
ElChupacabra said:
That it originated in China is one thing, that it spread to other countries places the future contagion factor on those nations. It's why countries who have mismanaged the pandemic are now not allowed in certain countries. So where does the responsibility fall when it's one particular country that's the hot spot?
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Everyone else never the dear leader, and they will wonder why he loses in a landslide and they lose the Senate.
 
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