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No doubt that hatin' and slingin' dope aren't their ownly normal activities, but they're are their two main activities.
I'm waiting for Sangha to post the AB's official political platform.
Thrilla already posted it
Humor me, so I don't have t wade through 45 pages of postings.
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ya know, it's kinda stupid to defend the AB on any level... the supreme assholes that they are....but damn, there's really no reason to make **** up about them either... doing so is simply an affront to integrity and credibility.
make no bones about it, there are exactly 2 people in here who are in the business of making **** up to suit their politics, no more, no less.....I don't know why they feel the need to exaggerate and argue that a potato is really a banana, but they do.... repetitively... ceaselessly
the AB is not a terrorist group, domestic or otherwise.... they are not right wingers ( they aren't political)
a case can be made for rightwing authoritarianism.... but those whom are trying to make the case don't even understand the concept of RWA... they stopped thinking and researching the minute they saw the words "right wing" and decided to hoist that moniker on what they would hope it would stick to.
had they understood the concept, they would see that the AB would conform to a single characteristic....Authoritarian aggression.
they have no need for submission, nor is such submission present in their mindset....that goes for conventionalism as well.
there would have to be some mighty elaborate mental gymnastics going on to fit the AB into the mold of RWA
the AB are a drug dealing, racist, murderous , prison gang motivated by profit from illegal activities ... nothing more, nothing less.
if that's not evil enough for you, I don't know what to say to say to you... you're a lost cause.
Holy Smokes!
Texas DA, wife killed -- 2 months after deputy gunned down - CNN.com
Other news sources are tying the Aryan Brotherhood in as likely suspects for both prosecutor killings, and the one of the prison chief in Colorado..
Texas DA and Wife Killed, Possible Aryan Brotherhood Link | Crooks and Liars
I think what confuses some is that the AB is a loosely organized mix of other white supremacist groups, including many which are political. It also seems pretty certain that the original Texas version of the AB was founded as an extreme Right Wing response to demographic pressures within the penitentiary....
No wonder you wouldn't post it.
...the historical dynamics that facilitate right-wing extremist movements. These refer to
social changes which result in the displacement of population groups that previously enjoyed
high positions of status (e.g., the emergence of the Ku Klux Klan in the South during
reconstruction). At the same time, political disorganization occurs due to a shift in political
alignments. One byproduct of disorganization is polarization in which the displaced group views
part of the population as being exclusively interested in preserving the past or making radical
changes. The real issue of change is soon overshadowed by the reaction of these two groups to
their perceptions of each other as a dichotomy of good and evil. Due to this polarization, those
looking to the past and those looking to the future begin to react to their perceptions of each
other as evil.
...the political dynamics, which refers to the stress of the loss of one's
previous state, and centers around the cultural baggage of the reference groups of the past.
Symbols of the past take on great significance. "Customs, mores, sexual habits, religious habits,
and styles of life are seen as specific symbolic content of lost group status" (Lipset and Raab
1978:488). Lipset and Raab argue that rather than being the foundation upon which right-wing
movements develop, religious fundamentalism and moralism is utilized (often unknowingly) by
those desperately seeking to regain their prior status, as amoral justification of their actions.
...politicization mobilizes portions of the population under a banner of preservation. The
quality of one's attachment to the movement can be analyzed according to the intensity of
affiliation...
Um, it isn't "power" that determines whether they are or are not a rw group.I agree that all the ingredients are there.
I just can't accept them as a legitimate RW group outside the prison walls. However, that's not to say they can't be, especially as they gain more and more power outside those walls.
True, in that they are indeed the polar opposite to the Far left.
A federal prosecutor has reportedly left a case involving members of the Aryan Brotherhood of Texas citing "security concerns."
The Dallas Morning News reports that Houston-based assistant U.S. attorney Jay Hileman told defense lawyer Richard O. Ely II that he was withdrawing in an email.
Ely is representing one of the defendants in the case, which involves racketeering charges.
Houston defense attorney Katherine Scardino also received the email from Hileman, according to Talking Points Memo.
"He sent the email to every lawyer representing a defendant in the Aryan Brotherhood federal case, and he said -- very short email -- that he was withdrawing for security reasons," Scardino told TPM.
Angela Dodge, spokeswoman for the U.S. attorney’s office in Houston, declined to confirm to The Huffington Post whether or why Hileman left the case.
"The case currently pending in the Southern District of Texas has been and will continue to be worked by the United States Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of Texas in partnership with the Department of Justice’s Criminal Division," Dodge said in an email.
That's not conceding that they are RW. It's only stating that they hold ideals and act opposite the Left Wing: they are not inclusive nor charitable nor open-minded. Also, I have repeatedly stated that the seed which spawned the AB was indeed RW, but they have since moved on to become a criminal enterprise.Um, it isn't "power" that determines whether they are or are not a rw group.
Hint: it is the political views they espouse.
You already conceded that they are rw.
Those are not the reasons why they are defined as rw, those were never the reasons you agreed as to why they are rw.That's not conceding that they are RW. It's only stating that they hold ideals and act opposite the Left Wing: they are not inclusive nor charitable nor open-minded.
True, in that they are indeed the polar opposite to the Far left.
They have not abandoned the core beliefs that makes them rw, becoming criminal does not preclude that they are no longer rw, the two are not mutually exclusive.Also, I have repeatedly stated that the seed which spawned the AB was indeed RW, but they have since moved on to become a criminal enterprise.
Nonetheless, systematically shooting officers of the court which is investigating your group is a terrorist action, no doubt. Thus the only thing open for debate is if the AB are a Right Wing org. On that, it seems that the only thing we know for sure is that they certainly are not Left Wing.
True, in that they are indeed the polar opposite to the Far left.
that study was designed to push gun control-and they include "more guns" as illegal ones. FAIL
So basically, you believe that guns make people kill. That's your basic premise isn't it? That if there are guns available, people are going to just start killing each other? Also, your study includes other countries, like third world countries and places like Mexico. That's a little dishonest when debating gun control here in America.
Here, educate yourself.
» Statistics Prove: More Guns, Less Crime Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
Can we please move on now?
They would not exist were it not for prisons. There are no political groups like that, only gangs of criminals.Those are not the reasons why they are defined as rw, those were never the reasons you agreed as to why they are rw.
The reason why they are defined as rw:
Right-wing authoritarianism is defined by three attitudinal and behavioral clusters which correlate together:[12][13]
Authoritarian submission — a high degree of submissiveness to the authorities who are perceived to be established and legitimate in the society in which one lives.
Authoritarian aggression — a general aggressiveness directed against deviants, outgroups, and other people that are perceived to be targets according to established authorities.
Conventionalism — a high degree of adherence to the traditions and social norms that are perceived to be endorsed by society and its established authorities, and a belief that others in one's society should also be required to adhere to these norms
And the example:
TO ALL Brothers who have been chosen to stand, lead, follow, and obey, as one in sincere unity with all the laws and ways of the supreme Aryan Brotherhood of the state of Mississippi the following is our law, code, and orders:
(1-A) An ARYAN BROTHER is one who shows, gives, and demands his respect where it is due and upholds every moral principle and value of and for all the Elite White Aryan Race...
(2-B) Once a chosen prospect has become a full Brother to the brand he will hold that title until his very death. Whether his death be of honor and loyalty to the Brotherhood, or of Dishonor and without loyalty. It is of his own choosing. For that very dishonor and un-loyalty may be the very cause of his death...
(7-A) The Aryan Brotherhood constitution will be read by all prospects at the time of becoming a Brother. Under no circumstances shall the A.B.'s constitution be ignored, neglected, disrespected or used in slander by anyone for any insult is certain of IMMEDIATE DEATH!!!
From a list of AB 'characteristics'
a) Awareness of your surroundings and environment at all times
b) Belief in and of the racial purity of the white race
c) Mental stability
d) Efficiency in acquiring further knowledge
e) Family oriented for your race
f) Genetically of European ancestry
g) Honest in any and all Aryan Business
h) Valuable to the Brotherhood
i) Willingness to be supportive of the Brotherhood outside prison
j) Pact-Bound
k) Strong Willed
l) Obedient of all known Aryan Laws
m) Noble and superior in Nature
n) Keeper of information
I'll keep reminding you until you remember the conversation correctly.
They have not abandoned the core beliefs that makes them rw, becoming criminal does not preclude that they are no longer rw, the two are not mutually exclusive.
If you wish to refer to them a Criminal RW Terrorist group, thats fine....it is just a bit redundant though.
I never said they weren't far right? I said they weren't political.
Look. I showed, repeatedly, that right wing extremism is not the overriding purpose of the AB gang. I also clearly showed that most members joined the AB for protection, that if they were not in prison, those people would not have joined the gang.
See. The AB is not politically Right Wing. They are a prison gang exclusively for straight Whites, and by that definition alone they are considered polar opposite to the Far Left.
Watch Palin come out and say it's "blood libel" to blame a rightwing militant organization for the killings.
A prison gang that was all-inclusive, accepting gays, straights, blacks, whites and Latinos would be Left leaning. Yes. If they began demanding the right to marry and eat vegan, then they'd be a bit further Left. Once they create a manifesto declaring equality for all and forced the prison recycle and put the power grid on Green energy, they would be Far Left.now wait a minute... if a prison gang that is for white straights is the polar opposite of far left, does that make prison gangs that are for hispanics, blacks, or gays far left?
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The AB is RW like all prison gangs are Right Wing Militant Groups: all are xenophobic, violent and authoritarian. But, if the Mexican Mafia was taking out District Attorneys, no one here would be calling them a Right Wing Hate Group.
The AB is RW like all prison gangs are Right Wing Militant Groups: all are xenophobic, violent and authoritarian. But, if the Mexican Mafia was taking out District Attorneys, no one here would be calling them a Right Wing Hate Group.
Point taken, but xenophobic, violent and authoritarian sort of reminds me of a certain political persuasion in the news recently that involves tea.
1) when dealing with hard core racist or racial supremacist whack jobs, application of terms of political philosophy is general nothing more than mental masturbation
that speaks more about the way your mind works than anything else....
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