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I think it's very difficult for anyone who grew up before "the internet" to not think that.
As I said, it's a modern problem for sure.
Other issues is absolutely correct.
I can sort of understand this situation to a degree. I when I was a freshman at high school, there was this app called Yik Yak, which is sort like an anonymous social media app.
When it blew up, the only thing that it was used for was to talk **** about everybody at the school. And you would have no idea who said what because it's completely anonymous. But the AP's got onto it and blocked it from the school's Wi-Fi not too long after that.
I can sort of understand this situation to a degree. I when I was a freshman at high school, there was this app called Yik Yak, which is sort like an anonymous social media app.
When it blew up, the only thing that it was used for was to talk **** about everybody at the school. And you would have no idea who said what because it's completely anonymous. But the AP's got onto it and blocked it from the school's Wi-Fi not too long after that.
Cruelty infers intent and motive though. Nothing here suggests she was trying to be cruel. It’s undeniable that witnessing her death would have been massively damaging to her family but it was only an act of cruelty if she’d wanted to hurt them in that way. In my experience of situations like this, her intentions (however misguided) would have been the exact opposite.No, I completely understand it's an irrational act. Doesn't change the fact that it was still a cruel act to do so in front of her family. Those two things are not mutually exclusive.
Cruelty infers intent and motive though. Nothing here suggests she was trying to be cruel. It’s undeniable that witnessing her death would have been massively damaging to her family but it was only an act of cruelty if she’d wanted to hurt them in that way. In my experience of situations like this, her intentions (however misguided) would have been the exact opposite.
That didn't alter people using the app over mobile service, though. It might have cut down the drama, but I doubt it ended it.
No, I was quite clear on ONE specific issue.
And I didn't say nothing needed to be said even on that issue.
I did say that if something WAS said, they should be prepared for what happens next. Next time, try actually READING what someone writes rather than making up what you wanted them to have written.
So, tell me. Do you have anything that you'd want to add to the actual topic, or are you just here to try (and fail) to attack me?
Why do you think kids today feel some "need" to cyber-bully?
Entertainment? Power? What is it? Any clue?
Hmmm...and then you complain that people "attack" you.Btw... here's a preemptive strike. Most of you know what I do for a living. I'll go further than that. My graduate school final thesis was on suicidality.
I"ll bite. What are the dominant factors that increase the chances of suicide among teens in cases of online/irl bullying?.Anyone who says something like "killing yourself is a sign of weakness" or the like, be prepared to be laughed at and humiliated for being completely ignorant on the topic.
Why do you think kids today feel some "need" to cyber-bully?
Entertainment? Power? What is it? Any clue?
Uy
You didnt have to say those exact words
They were fully implied by what you did say
Hmmm...and then you complain that people "attack" you.
I"ll bite. What are the dominant factors that increase the chances of suicide among teens in cases of online/irl bullying?.
Fallen.
This was basically a CHILD. Don't forget that.
Don't quit your day job.
Your attempts at mind reading have yielded a batting average of .000.
I wont
When it comes to divining the emotions of a person you have never met and then telling everyone else what to think I couldnt hold a candle to you
For the same reason kids have bullied weaker kids since the dawn of kids. All of the above.
I get that from a 10,000 foot view, but cyber-bullying is a different beast isn't it?
Anyone can cyber-bully. Girls can be far more vicious over the internet than they can in physical form. Right?
There's instant gratification from physically bullying somebody.
When you do it over the internet and can't watch your victim react directly it's different.
It's the power of anonymity that makes it different. If you punch someone in the face, the possibility of consequences exists... consequences at school, consequences at home, consequences legally. Bullying on the internet, anonymously yields few if any consequences. That's power and freedom to do and say things without concern for risk.
Bullied teen kills herself in front of her family - CNN.com
Cyber bullying. A modern day issue. Awful. Disgusting. Tragic.
Can we, or should we hold people accountable when something of this nature happens?
Can assault charges be levied if it's just words on the internet?
Flip side of that is people don't have to be "on" the internet. You can turn off Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.
I'm torn between anger at the kids who mercilessly tortured this girl, and just outright sadness that she felt her only way out was suicide.
Her family must be absolutely devastated having watched her pull the trigger.
Right. So one of my questions is, should there be legal consequences? Especially when it leads to a persons death?
It's the power of anonymity that makes it different. If you punch someone in the face, the possibility of consequences exists... consequences at school, consequences at home, consequences legally. Bullying on the internet, anonymously yields few if any consequences. That's power and freedom to do and say things without concern for risk.
It's a difficult question. Morally is there culpability? I would say yes. The likelihood of the individual committing suicide without the bullying from the actor is extremely low if nonexistent. The bullies behavior leads directly to a mood and self-perception shift that affects future behavior. But legally? Accessory to murder? Incitement? I'm really not sure if any of those would apply. I know you are asking a "should" question, rather than a "is there legal recourse" question, but it's hard not to consider the latter.
I'm going to think about this some more.
Your "advice" is meaningless, as it is an online forum, people can and will say a lot of things, even if you consider them stupid. Imo it seemed more like some cheap chest-beating attempt.I'd like to prevent people from saying stupid things in threads like this. Apparently, people will STILL say stupid things even if advise them not to.
Other mental health issues such as depression. Self-esteem issues. Social isolation/difficulty making friends. Estrangement from family or one or both parents. Some sort of social or interactive trauma. Those are some major ones.
Cool. Now lets get back to your previous statement i.e. "Anyone who says something like "killing yourself is a sign of weakness" or the like, be prepared to be laughed at and humiliated for being completely ignorant on the topic." and more specifically to the weakness part. Isn't having issues with social interactions or a low self esteem due to various factors is a form of "social weakness" of some sort, especially in the current era of social-media and supposed openness?
Fallen.
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