Ted Cruz demands meeting with the Commandant of the USMC

[Variant]

When that "lashing out" is basically "women actually in the military prove Tucker Carlson wrong" and "what he said does not fit Army values", yes.

It is funny how mild the criticism was that the right wing folks can't take.

 

[joko104]

The military has a very real job of maintaining to the best of their ability unit cohesion and good order and discipline. In fact, it has been the basis for many of the laws within the military that do restrict rights of military members.

Tucker is an irrelevancy.

Do you actually think that before a mission or anything else the military anyone does includes someone asking "wait, first I want to know what Carlson Tucker's opinion on this is?" Of course not.

The REAL issue is more direct ones:
1. Should women have to met physical standards designed around males?
2. Should the USA military leave the 17th century and come into the 21st century in which intellect and technology rule, not who was the strongest football linebacker in high school?
3. Should all military units be co-ed?
4. Do females in the military offer any unique benefits?
5. What are any special needs that women in the military might require?

and other relevant topics, rather than what Tucker Carlson rants about on one of the rant-television networks, like CNN and MSNBC are as well? They exist to rant, partisan rant, truth often irrelevant for all 3 of the cable news networks.

In all her years in the military, on NO occasion has my daughter mention even ONE news reporter, editorialist or commentator - about anything - ever. For that matter I can't remember her doing so in her entire life, though she was politically involved and in various political-type matters prior to being in the military. Tucker has massive power over Democrats on this forum such as you, but none over her (or me).

 

[Rawley]

If they were trying to dictate civilian policy with force or bullying maybe.

In this case they were defending current and long term US policy that came directly from the civilian government.

Really? So in response to Congressional criticism about bombing Syria, you'd have no problem if General BrassBalls responded - 'Don't pay attention to the criticism from those Democrats in Congress, they are afraid of their own shadows.'

 

[Rawley]

LMAO.. another barracks lawyer... tell us about your extensive knowledge of military regulations

It's not rocket science.

https://www.marines.mil/Portals/1/Docs/134410p%5B1%5D.pdf

 

[Rawley]

When that "lashing out" is basically "women actually in the military prove Tucker Carlson wrong" and "what he said does not fit Army values", yes.

You and others are trying to wrongly present what those in the military actually posted, most of which being "this guy is wrong".

What is the quote from Carlson that has you so upset?

 

[BlueTex]

It's not rocket science.

https://www.marines.mil/Portals/1/Docs/134410p%5B1%5D.pdf

Is a DOD directive a regulation? Are you going to claim like an earlier poster that it’s law also?

 

[Rawley]

Well, if you really feel the need to let a wimp like Carlson tell you what to think, who I am to stop you?

He says safely ensconced in Rachel's vag.

 

[Rawley]

Is a DOD directive a regulation? Are you going to claim like an earlier poster that it’s law also?

No. It's a regulation. Violate it and you get in trouble. Is this concept really going over your head?

 

[joko104]

When that "lashing out" is basically "women actually in the military prove Tucker Carlson wrong" and "what he said does not fit Army values", yes.

You and others are trying to wrongly present what those in the military actually posted, most of which being "this guy is wrong".

Tucker was factually wrong. Military personnel do not wear utilities into combat and the military does not sent pregnant women into combat. I understood what he was TRYING to say - and he got it wrong on every level including factually.

"Getting it wrong on every level including factually" defines all 3 cable news networks in general. Anyone who gets worked up about anything on cable news is a fool. Almost no one watches those networks. Probably more people watch the weather channel. 79 million Americans get the weather channel.

 

[pocket aces]

He says safely ensconced in Rachel's vag.

That was dumb.

 

[Hamish Howl]

He says safely ensconced in Rachel's vag.

Which Rachel?

 

[Hamish Howl]

That was dumb.

I imagine he thought of it as a zinger.

 

[Variant]

Really? So in response to Congressional criticism about bombing Syria, you'd have no problem if General BrassBalls responded - 'Don't pay attention to the criticism from those Democrats in Congress, they are afraid of their own shadows.'

Yeah that scenario seems roughly equivalent to the military deciding to defend current US military members for having a vagina.

Try and find something even a little bit similar for me to get upset about and maybe I would.

 

[joko104]

I do notice that those rating about Tucker claiming it is defense of women in the military actually never post anything in defense of women on the military board when women in service are the topic.

Why don't any of you go to the military board and defend women having a role in military combat? Waiting for some Democratic master to order you or first give you permission?

 

[BlueTex]

No. It's a regulation. Violate it and you get in trouble. Is this concept really going over your head?

Get back to us when you know the difference between a DIRECTIVE and a regulation.. good lord...

 

[Rawley]

Tucker was factually wrong. Military personnel do not wear utilities into combat and the military does not sent pregnant women into combat. I understood what he was TRYING to say - and he got it wrong on every level including factually.

"Getting it wrong on every level including factually" defines all 3 cable news networks in general. Anyone who gets worked up about anything on cable news is a fool. Almost no one watches those networks. Probably more people watch the weather channel. 79 million Americans get the weather channel.

It's not a giant leap from fitting pregnant women for body armor and flight suits to the implication that they will be in combat zones.

 

[Variant]

I do notice that those rating about Tucker claiming it is defense of women in the military actually never post anything in defense of women on the military board when women in service are the topic.

Why don't any of you go to the military board and defend women having a role in military combat? Waiting for some Democratic master to order you or first give you permission?

I like highways too but you don't see me ever talking about how much I like them...

 

[pocket aces]

It's not a giant leap from fitting pregnant women for body armor and flight suits to the implication that they will be in combat zones.

Maybe if one does not use their brain.

 

[Rawley]

Yeah that scenario seems roughly equivalent to the military deciding to defend current US military members for having a vagina.

Try and find something even a little bit similar for me to get upset about and maybe I would.

What's the difference? Why can the military respond to one and not the other? Where do you draw that line? Which is exactly why they previously drew the line at zero tolerance. But we have to gather that doesn't apply any more.

 

[Rawley]

Get back to us when you know the difference between a DIRECTIVE and a regulation.. good lord...

Please hold you breath until them, OK? Gott im Himmel

 

[Rawley]

Maybe if one does not use their brain.

Really? Body armor a big necessity on base at Fort Dix?

 

[roguenuke]

You don't see a problem with the military taking sides on political issues? Really?

The military is taking its own side here. The comments were made about the military. Should they not take their own side?

 

[roguenuke]

Tucker is an irrelevancy.

Do you actually think that before a mission or anything else the military anyone does includes someone asking "wait, first I want to know what Carlson Tucker's opinion on this is?" Of course not.

The REAL issue is more direct ones:
1. Should women have to met physical standards designed around males?
2. Should the USA military leave the 17th century and come into the 21st century in which intellect and technology rule, not who was the strongest football linebacker in high school?
3. Should all military units be co-ed?
4. Do females in the military offer any unique benefits?
5. What are any special needs that women in the military might require?

and other relevant topics, rather than what Tucker Carlson rants about on one of the rant-television networks, like CNN and MSNBC are as well? They exist to rant, partisan rant, truth often irrelevant for all 3 of the cable news networks.

In all her years in the military, on NO occasion has my daughter mention even ONE news reporter, editorialist or commentator - about anything - ever. For that matter I can't remember her doing so in her entire life, though she was politically involved and in various political-type matters prior to being in the military. Tucker has massive power over Democrats on this forum such as you, but none over her (or me).

Tucker has a following in the military and has people who take what he says as gospel, as truth, and some of those are in the military. So he is a problem if he tries to turn people against certain members of the military.

Those are not what Carlson was discussing with his comments.

 

[Variant]

What's the difference? Why can the military respond to one and not the other? Where do you draw that line? Which is exactly why they previously drew the line at zero tolerance. But we have to gather that doesn't apply any more.

So you are telling me that you can't tell the difference between criticizing military actions like bombing Syria and criticizing military policy's like being inclusive towards female members?

One is the criticism of how the military is used and the other is criticism of the military's membership based upon their sex.

If the military defends itself in the second scenario it is simply defending the members of the armed services.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

The military has a very real job of maintaining to the best of their ability unit cohesion and good order and discipline. In fact, it has been the basis for many of the laws within the military that do restrict rights of military members.

And to maintain that good order and disipline includes not speaking out on behalf of the military. Which in effect is jumping the chain of command and not doing it using the proper channels.