Teabagging - legitimate movement or doomed to failure?

[misterman]

We all know teabagger or teabagging is a insulting term. As soon as see someone use it, I make a mental note and file that person under the "partisan hack" category.

You do the same with libtard, Democrap, etc too?

 

[Psychoclown]

You do the same with libtard, Democrap, etc too?

Yup. I hate hacks on all sides.

 

[misterman]

Yup. I hate hacks on all sides.

Glad to hear it.

 

[American]

In context, I was bashing them for having no political will. Also, the tea parties I was in favor of were Ron Paul's, in which political positions were promoted, not bringing out fake unlicensed plumbers, while calling Obama a non-citizen who would put grandma to death. When I used the word "we", I was not referring to the wannabes who hijacked tea-bagging, but the original tea-baggers, which was the Ron Paul movement. If you read my post in context, the .08% for the "wannabes" speaks for itself.

Who brought out a fake unlicensed plumber......why Obama did that.

 

[rytis]

Teabagging - legitimate movement or doomed to failure?

Tea baggers allowed themselves exposure by Palin on major media -
NEWSFLASH:

THE PLAN: Step by step:
Operation American Freedom: it will not come from television! We organize for 2012 American presidential election, we do not need a majority to win at this point. we hold elections at the same time the corporate media is holding elections with their two party political circus actors. our elections are held on democratic media only which we must create, our candidates do not compete or debate with any candidates who allow themselves exposure on corporate media, our candidates do not give out interviews on corporate media which breaks our rules by allowing political prostitution, our candidates do not associate with corporate media circus in any way, because in reality their circus is absurd and illegal and its' legitimacy is only made to look real as a show, to realize that we only need to look back at the constitution and we will see that their political cast are for the most part criminals for its' violation. we can not associate ourselves with these criminals.
We elect our leader outside the corporate media's political circus. we display our loyalty to our leader as American president and create controversy: other people will start to wonder what is going on? another US president?, and when they read into our movement they will start realizing that their elections were indeed a fraud - so what if they had a majority participating in their circus? a majority may masturbate to the clips of beautiful women, but it does not mean the love they made was real; a majority of children may believe in Santa clause, but the time comes when they realize there is no such thing. the important thing is that we, the minority take the first step and organize. make it your goal to wake at least two people up within the next month. You may think "but our president will not control money". Ah, but remember, their money is not gold standard, but paper - their circus was built on illusion. we will function under our own legal bartering and credit system. we will persuade those who have nothing to lose join us, we will complain to them about any local officials who give us hard time with our freedom. we will have the world of animals crumble and restore America to all that we dreamed it to be. but it will not be the end of our destiny: then it will be time to ensure that we are not occupied by the rest of the countries, because the parasites will flee to other nations corrupting them and then use their armies against us just like they have done with many different nations including America in the past. only after we unified and liberated the whole world can we claim success.
As our movement will grow, their circus will begin to look more and more as what it really is. Gods government - the new word of god

NOTE TO MODS, sorry, I just posted this in another thread about tea baggers, but this is much more appropriate place for this so I copied it here.

 

[Cold Highway]

Dana, you might like this article

How to undermine a movement: turn its values on their heads

 

[American]

While Teabagging has become the rage among Conservatives, not to mention the non-Conservative elements of the Republican party, who among them holds public office? Not many. So the question is this: Can the "Teabagger" play a major part in American politics and policy? My answer would be no, and there is clear evidence for this answer in Meg Whitman, California Conservative activist, who has kept the teabaggers at arm's length, in her bid to replace Arnold Schwartzeneggar, who will be leaving the governor's office.

While one might argue that "This is California" so it doesn't apply, my answer to that will be "Show me more than a handful of governors or Senators who are in office due to the teabaggers". The House is a different matter, with so many seats, but there are no more than a handful of teabaggers there. Due to regional factors, coupled with relatively small districts, compared to the Senate, House members have more leeway in being more vocal about their beliefs, but issues of Obama being a Communist Muslim who is a citizen of another country, death panels, and other such nonsense are not going to resonate with the majority of Americans, thus keeping the teabagging movement confined to mainly small local pockets around the nation where there is like-mindedness.

Even Ron Paul, who I supported in the last election cycle, and who was the original tea bagger, before his own movement was hijacked by "wannabes" who weren't really that Conservative, faced the same demographics. Although successful in his Congressional reelection bid in Texas, some of his message did not resonate with the American people as a whole, thus diluting the good parts of his message (And indeed, there were many good parts).

Teabaggers are going to have to face the facts. Sarah Palin does not have a snowball's chance in hell of becoming the next President of the United States, and neither does anyone else who follows the same line. In order for the Republican Party to have a chance to seat Obama, they are going to have to temper their ideology, and desire to purify the party, with a little (or maybe a huge) bit of pragmatism. The right amounts of ideology and pragmatism is a successful recipe for success, but if the GOP really means business about purification, then they will once again be sitting on the sidelines come 2012.

To sum this post up - Teabagging is a recipe for failure. It might make you feel good in the short run, but in the long run, the hangover will be a bitch, unless you can convince 51% of the American people. This is not going to be likely, or IMHO, even a remote possibility.

That is not conservatism.