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Taliban entering Kabul 'from all sides'

Saigon, '21... Classy, Joe.
 
Top Cat said:
FFS the delusions are unending with righties.
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You do know that Joe Biden has spent far more days away from the White House than any other president at this point in his presidency, yes?
 
JANFU said:
So the US should have stayed?
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Definatly better to have to evacuate diplomats via helicopter and rush troops in to help. No better way. 'Murica.
 
Taylor said:
No doubt Biden will blame Trump for planning his vacation for him, too. 😂

m.washingtontimes.com

‘Commander-in-absentia’: Biden resumes vacation while crises rage

President Biden didn’t alter his plan for vacation time at Camp David over the weekend as the Taliban roared across Afghanistan and other crises mounted on the home front.
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Hopefully Joe someday pulls his nose from Trump's panties and starts leading this country in a direction Trump wasn't, but today is not that day it seems.
 
Metric Mouse said:
Definatly better to have to evacuate diplomats via helicopter and rush troops in to help. No better way. 'Murica.
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How many more years
Last 20 was over a trillion. How much more blood and treasure?
Over the past 2400 yrs how many empires tried to conquer Afghanistan & how many succeeded?
 
poweRob said:
We pursued him to Tora Bora and then when pinned down, willy nilly handed over the reigns to the locals to capture him for the imagery of them policing themselves instead of us doing it, and the locals helped him escape instead.
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Rumsfeld and Cheney made that decision.

By then the Bush White House had lost interest in Afghanistan, and were busy getting ready to begin selling the idea of starting a war in the wrong country.
 
Paradoxical said:
Trump had it under control. in two weeks, Biden destroyed everything. he is the destroyer in chief.
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Trump never had much of anything under control. Indeed the talks in Dohar largely amounted to a stalling exercise by the Taliban. In much the same way the the North Vietnamese used the Paris Peace Talks decades earlier.

All the more so because trump constantly sent mixed messages about Afghanistan (much as he ususally sent mixed messages about every thing else that had to do with policy or leadership).
 
TomFitz said:
Rumsfeld and Cheney made that decision.

By then the Bush White House had lost interest in Afghanistan, and were busy getting ready to begin selling the idea of starting a war in the wrong country.
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Old enough to remember before 9/11 when GW was governor and invited the Taliban over to Texas to discuss oil.

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Representatives of the Taliban are invited guests to the Texas headquarters of Unocal to negotiate their support for the pipeline. Future President George W. Bush is Governor of Texas at the time. The Taliban appear to agree to a $2 billion pipeline deal, but will do the deal only if the US officially recognizes the Taliban regime. The Taliban meet with US officials. According to the Daily Telegraph, “the US government, which in the past has branded the Taliban’s policies against women and children ‘despicable,’ appears anxious to please the fundamentalists to clinch the lucrative pipeline contract.”​
 
The airport is now closed to commercial flights. But there's a mighty lot of people there.

 
Jredbaron96 said:
They played the long game in Takhar and it worked. I imagine they were running similar gigs all across even if they weren't high profile.
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Yup. Everyone who had "Ismail Khan, Dostum, and Atta Noor amount to nothing", please collect your winnings.
 
VySky said:
Thanks to Biden and his stupid intelligence agencies looking for Trump boogie men in Starbucks thus taking their eye off the ball. They have become politicized at a cost to other nations.
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really? Trump made the withdrawal agreement with the Taliban...not Biden.
 
poweRob said:
Old enough to remember before 9/11 when GW was governor and invited the Taliban over to Texas to discuss oil.

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Representatives of the Taliban are invited guests to the Texas headquarters of Unocal to negotiate their support for the pipeline. Future President George W. Bush is Governor of Texas at the time. The Taliban appear to agree to a $2 billion pipeline deal, but will do the deal only if the US officially recognizes the Taliban regime. The Taliban meet with US officials. According to the Daily Telegraph, “the US government, which in the past has branded the Taliban’s policies against women and children ‘despicable,’ appears anxious to please the fundamentalists to clinch the lucrative pipeline contract.”​
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We will lay down with anyone for oil……
 
Tigerace117 said:
Now we get to watch years of isolationists turning a blind eye to the endless atrocities the Taliban are going to commit because they are doing it to foreigners and foreigners, as we all know, don’t really matter 🙄
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it isn't that foreigners do not matter...it is that it is their country and not ours...why should we fight their war for them? We fought it for them for 20 years.....they still didn't want to fight the Taliban...perhaps that is because they want that type of government??? Did you ever consider that maybe they see things differently than you or I?
 
jonny5 said:
Heres a question. Where are the Taliban getting their arms? Selling opium for money to buy weapons from someone? China? Middle East? Another. Where is the UN in this? Why are we the only ones who show an interest in protecting regular Afghanis from islamic fascism?
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Most likely from us. The Afghan army has lost a minor mountain of weapons ever since they started receiving them from Uncle Sugar... :unsure:

A more correct title for the Taliban is Radicalized Islamic Theocracy... ✌️
 
JANFU said:
How many more years
Last 20 was over a trillion. How much more blood and treasure?
Over the past 2400 yrs how many empires tried to conquer Afghanistan & how many succeeded?
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There's almost certainly a middle ground between "conquering Afghanistan" (which the United States had no intention of ever doing, and no need to for any purpose) and literally emergency evacuating embassy personnel by helicopter while thousands of troops are rushed to the area to try to stabilize the situation just long enough to keep foreign forces from slaughtering them.

There are plenty of good ways for leaders to withdraw from an occupied country; South Korea, Germany, and Japan are all good examples. This one will go down as a bad example.
 
PeacefulWarrior said:
The tree of liberty must be occasionally watered with the blood of tyrants Steve-O. 🤷‍♂️
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Either you're trolling for a giggle, or you're one horrible (sub)human being. Either way, I'm out (at least as far as you're concerned).
 
notquiteright said:
Most likely from us. The Afghan army has lost a minor mountain of weapons ever since they started receiving them from Uncle Sugar... :unsure:

A more correct title for the Taliban is Radicalized Islamic Theocracy... ✌️
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When you say "radicalized", do you mean that they're strictly adherent to Islam, or that they've made up shit that really isn't a part of Islam? Same question for those who use the word "extremist".
 
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