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Taiwan in danger of Mainland takeover after US show of weakness in Afghanistan

phoenix2020 said:
R&D and manufacturing
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I don't disagree with the over all point but if you isolate the two types of R&D and manufacture of say cell phones opposed to very advanced weaponry, we lead by a figurative mile.
 
PNW Guy said:
Not to mention, does anyone REALLY want to mess with Japan and it's "non military" forces? Japan isn't the paper tiger we intended them to be.



The economic forces Japan could unleash, not to mention, the US obligation to defend Japan, I think plays a larger role than people sometimes consider. Japan and the US are about as allied as could be, considering history.
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Domestic support in Japan for foreign war is nil.

So, no.
 
Ishm said:
A Chinese attack on Taiwan would be the rest of the developed worlds best opportunity to put China back in it's cage before they become too strong. Left to do what they want, China re unlikely to stop at Taiwan. Wait a few years and there will be another target as they get stronger and stronger.
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Why would they be “unlikely to stop at Taiwan”? Besides their disputed sea claims, what other territories does China claim ownership over that would necessitate the conquest of other nations?
 
Questerr said:
Why would they be “unlikely to stop at Taiwan”? Besides their disputed sea claims, what other territories does China claim ownership over that would necessitate the conquest of other nations?
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Do you read the news? How about China's attempts to take posession of islands etc that are clearly within other nations territorial waters? How about their sending fishing fleets to 'invade' the internationally recognised waters of nations mostly too weak to do anything about it. How about the latest news of China building villages and paying people to live in them on land 'owned' by India at the disputed border? How about the Chinese take over of Tibet? The take over of Hong Kong in breach of their agreement with the UK.

Why on earth would you think for a moment that China wouldn't take over any territory it thinks it can get away with? What evidence is there of any respect for international law?
 
Ishm said:
Do you read the news? How about China's attempts to take posession of islands etc that are clearly within other nations territorial waters? How about their sending fishing fleets to 'invade' the internationally recognised waters of nations mostly too weak to do anything about it. How about the latest news of China building villages and paying people to live in them on land 'owned' by India at the disputed border? How about the Chinese take over of Tibet? The take over of Hong Kong in breach of their agreement with the UK.

Why on earth would you think for a moment that China wouldn't take over any territory it thinks it can get away with? What evidence is there of any respect for international law?
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Yes, taking a handful of uninhabited islands is definitely something the entire world needs to go to war with a nuclear power over.

Hong Kong was nearly 30 years ago. Tibet was 50 years ago.
 
seymourflops said:
www-nytimes-com.cdn.ampproject.org

‘Starting a Fire’: U.S. and China Enter Dangerous Territory Over Taiwan (Published 2021)

The self-ruled island has moved to the heart of deepening discord and rivalry between the two superpowers, with the potential to ignite military conflagration and reshape the regional order.
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I feel bad for them.

On NPR some Chinese think tank leader compared Taiwan to Alaska and Hawaii to say the US wouldn't let them declare independence why should they let Taiwan?

From freedom and prosperity to socialism and deprivation.
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What if, our China policy could be, unify with the National flag instead of the Communist flag and enjoy all the market-friendliness Taiwan gets?
 
Questerr said:
Yes, taking a handful of uninhabited islands is definitely something the entire world needs to go to war with a nuclear power over.

Hong Kong was nearly 30 years ago. Tibet was 50 years ago.
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Building on Indian territory is today, and trying to take control of the SCS to control global trade into Asia is today as well. So what are your indicators that the CCP has changed it's ways since Tibet, HK, etc? My view is that as economic growth slows, and internal discontent rises, the CCP will try to shore up it's popularity by building international tensions to increase nationalism. Imo they will go to war before facing an internal revolt from an unhappy population.
 
Ishm said:
Building on Indian territory is today, and trying to take control of the SCS to control global trade into Asia is today as well. So what are your indicators that the CCP has changed it's ways since Tibet, HK, etc? My view is that as economic growth slows, and internal discontent rises, the CCP will try to shore up it's popularity by building international tensions to increase nationalism. Imo they will go to war before facing an internal revolt from an unhappy population.
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That’s at best a border dispute. China isn’t going to be trying to conquer India and India can protect themselves.
 
good read, this
 
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