What role does it play in whether abortion is legal or not? Somebody try to bear with me. I figure if slavery is a counterpoint, then so is this.
A fetus cannot survive outside the host. So if the host decides not to keep the parasite (what it is if the pregnancy is not wished for) - host wins. Survival of the fittest.
Lame or no?
Somebody extrapolate for me. I've had no coffee.
What role does it play in whether abortion is legal or not? Somebody try to bear with me. I figure if slavery is a counterpoint, then so is this.
A fetus cannot survive outside the host. So if the host decides not to keep the parasite (what it is if the pregnancy is not wished for) - host wins. Survival of the fittest.
Lame or no?
Somebody extrapolate for me. I've had no coffee.
Well, yes, the "fittest" survived even though the mother wasn't really in danger of NOT surviving.
Do you consider "survival of the fittest" to be a good model for creating laws? Should only certain people be allowed to live?
What role does it play in whether abortion is legal or not?
What role does it play in whether abortion is legal or not? Somebody try to bear with me. I figure if slavery is a counterpoint, then so is this.
A fetus cannot survive outside the host. So if the host decides not to keep the parasite (what it is if the pregnancy is not wished for) - host wins. Survival of the fittest.
Lame or no?
Somebody extrapolate for me. I've had no coffee.
Survival of the fittest has to do with nature. Not laws. If the government collapsed, what would happen? People would do exactly as they saw fit to survive. Or they wouldn't. If they knew they would not survive if there was one more mouth to feed, then there wouldn't be.
I know I'm stretching, but this is a debate activity, not an actual debate. I'm trying to cause thinking, not reaction.
Just as a forward, I'm prochoice but the idea of calling a fetus a parasite has always disgusted me.
Survival of the fittest really wouldn't have anything to do with abortion. No baby can survive by itself outside of the womb without someone providing care. This is a feature of all babies or fetuses, not just ones with different features or something.
Survival of the fittest means whatever animal has the best features suited for it's environment (actually whatever creature is best suited to survive and procreate) will pass along their genes and those that aren't well equipped won't. I don't get what this has to do with babies though unless maybe you can find that women with a certain feature are more likely to get abortions or something.
Since the entire idea of survival of the fittest involves passing along your genes, the whole abortion thing makes the point moot. The fittest survived but has not passed along any genes.
So survival of the fittest has nothing do do with strong win, weak lose? I mean, aside from genetically. Because if not, then never mind.
I don't use the word parasite generally, I used it here to fit in the debate.
I need a debate book. I asked my nephew to recommend one but so far no joy.
If the government collapsed and left many people who rely on government $$ without food, shelter, etc., people would do what they had to do to survive. Some would go to churches and ask for help. Some would swallow their pride and take a job that they felt was beneath them before government aid. Some would have family members that would take them in.
If a pregnancy happened during that time and there was one more mouth to feed, those who are strongly against killing unborn children would probably still have the child and give him/her up for adoption or just try to make it all work. Those who are strongly for killing unborn children would have no qualms about killing their child. Those who are wishy-washy about the topic could go either way.
I don't think it would be much different than having government aid, really. I think people's convictions would stay the same. I know mine would.
I know that we're having a completely different discussion now but I don't care since it was a stupid idea to begin with.
I wonder what would really happen if the government collapsed. I mean - anarchy. If the world went mad in this country, how would things unfold.
I don't know about convictions staying the same. I've been through a really rough patch lately. I have seriously considered suicide where I never had before. I have wondered if selling sex is a possibility for a grandma, because nobody will hire me and I refuse to go in for general assistance. I have thought about going home, even though my husband has another woman and her two children living under our roof.
You don't know what you will or won't do until life gets really painful and there are no more answers.
Why do you refuse assistance?
I figure there are other who need it more than I do ... dunno. Pride, I guess. And some small part involves me going to the county courthouse and I am agoraphobic.
Survival of the fittest means whatever animal has the best features suited for it's environment (actually whatever creature is best suited to survive and procreate) will pass along their genes and those that aren't well equipped won't. I don't get what this has to do with babies though unless maybe you can find that women with a certain feature are more likely to get abortions or something.
You won't ask for assistance because you're too proud, but you'd consider being a prostitute?
Somebody extrapolate for me. I've had no coffee.
I know that we're having a completely different discussion now but I don't care since it was a stupid idea to begin with.
I wonder what would really happen if the government collapsed. I mean - anarchy. If the world went mad in this country, how would things unfold.
I don't know about convictions staying the same. I've been through a really rough patch lately. I have seriously considered suicide where I never had before. I have wondered if selling sex is a possibility for a grandma, because nobody will hire me and I refuse to go in for general assistance. I have thought about going home, even though my husband has another woman and her two children living under our roof.
You don't know what you will or won't do until life gets really painful and there are no more answers.
Have some coffee, for God's sake! You can come to my house if you're out.:mrgreen:
Once more with feeling. See where we are? Yes, Mac; we are in the abortion forum. Discussing abortion. Please discuss the original post before you start kitchen sinking me, mmkay?
Yeah, I already said it was lame. Thursdays are not kind to you, my friend.
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