You'd think the liberals would rejoice at this.Blitz said:Tax Revenues are not cumming from normal Americans. They are comming from most of the wealthy corporations.
Leaves them out of what?They admin leaves out Iraq War cost and future Pork projects that they know what the American people don't know.
But the unemployment numbers that the Clinton administration put out were golden. Right?Oh, by the way, you can't prove in any court of law that these unemployment numbers are wrong. Can you say RIGGED!!!
I think of you as what you so clearly are -- a bigoted, partisan hack.Think of me as a person simliar who defected from the NSA.
I've siad already that it can't be proven!!!
And so, you really havsnt anything of any value to say, do you?Blitz said:I've siad already that it can't be proven!!!
hipsterdufus said:If you want to spread the blame around, go ahead, but the facts are the facts.
1. Bush diverted funding away from shoring up the levees=Katrina disaster
2. Bush did not heed warnings of 8-6-01 PDB warning of Bin Laden attacks, warnings of Bin Laden's danger from Clinton Admin=9/11
3. Bush invaded Iraq as misguided response to 9/11
4. In all of the above, there is rampant corruption, war/hurricane profiteering and no GOP fiscal oversight.
Hence the fiscal mess.
hipsterdufus said:NPR has a good take on the story today:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5546830
Blitz said:I personally think another CILVIL WAR will be nice so we can surgically wipe the smirks off your faces.::flame: :flames: :blastem: :gunner:
Blitz said:I personally think another CILVIL WAR will be nice so we can surgically wipe the smirks off your faces.::flame: :flames: :blastem: :gunner:
Navy Pride said:Why don't you cite Michael Moore or moveon.org? They are just as creditable.......
PeteEU said:But I am sure that cutting taxes would boost tax revenues, however the debate would be how big tax cuts and where, and when... there are after all limits going both ways.
hipsterdufus said:WOW! You equate NPR with Michael Moore & moveon? For real? If so, you are so far gone....
Iriemon said:Why are you sure of this? Cutting taxes does not boost tax revenues. If taxes were cut to 1% are you claiming that would boost tax revenues? Of course not.
Welcome to Iriemon's strawman factory. :roll:Navy Pride said:I don't think anyone is advocating cutting taxes to 1%
zymurgy said:True.
And Bush doesn't get a pat on the back for increasing the national debt either, which this thread is trying to do.
zymurgy said:The unfortunate truth is our national debt has gotten worse under so called conservative watches.
Reagan,
Goobieman said:When the deficits went down under Clinton, Democrats were overjoyed. When they do down under Bush, its meaningless?
Must be a (D) v (R) thing.
1. It's great deficits are going down, but its only through phony accounting that they can say the deficits are going down, in fact Govt is borrowing more.
2. They are only going "down" relatively speaking. Even afte going "down" they are still 1/2 trillion worse than they were in 2000 -- hardly something to be overjoyed about.
Originally Posted by Iriemon
Why are you sure of this? Cutting taxes does not boost tax revenues. If taxes were cut to 1% are you claiming that would boost tax revenues? Of course not.
Navy Pride said:I don't think anyone is advocating cutting taxes to 1% ...........That said it is irrefutable that cutting taxes does not increase revenures.......JFK, and Reagan proved that and now Bush is doing it.......
Goobieman said:Welcome to Iriemon's strawman factory. :roll:
Iriemon said:I think you meant to say "irrefutable that cutting taxes does increase revenures". Which I expect you to say despite being shown data to the opposite on numerous ocassions.
But if it is "irrefutable that cutting taxes increases revenues" then why not cut taxes to 1%? Then we'd have tons of revenues, right?
ProudAmerican said:nonsense.
LOL. tis true they are still worse than in 2000. but they are better than they were last year. and will likely be better next year than this year.
you have to start somewhere.
just admit if it were a democrat that made these very same strides, your response would be much different.
thats what partisans do.
Iriemon said:Strawman? Do you disagree or agree that cutting taxes to 1% would reduce revenues?
Iriemon said:LMFAO! Oh yeah, if a Dem inherited a govt with a $236 billion surplus (\
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