Show us then.
And please don't use things like lowering premiums for specific groups, or subsidizing premiums. Show us where people said that premiums (not growth) would be lower overall with the ACA.
I think we will see you are wrong.
Your lack of comprehension is not a failure of the program.
"I will sign a universal health care bill into law by the end of my first term as president that will cover every American and cut the cost of a typical family's premium by up to $2,500 a year." June 23, 2007
Read more @: [/FONT][/COLOR]Supreme Court Upholds Obama Health Care Subsidies
Story just now breaking. More info to come soon. Millions of Americans get to keep their healthcare. A huge win for the Obama admin.
So, no one ever said the program would lower premium rates according to you, right?
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In the handful of states where data is available (Connecticut, Maryland, Michigan, Oregon, Virginia, Vermont, Washington state and Washington, D.C.), Pearson says the majority of people buying health coverage on exchanges won't face serious sticker shock.
"We have seen that about 6 percent average rate increases are expected for 2016," Pearson says.
As Avalere looks at the less expensive plans, she says, "We're seeing anywhere from a 5 percent increase for the lowest-cost plan available, to a 1 percent increase for the second-lowest-cost plan available. So we're really looking at very modest increases — very consistent with what we saw from 2014 to 2015." — "Health Insurance Premiums Will Go Up In 2016, But By How Much?" NPR, June 12, 2015
I'll defer to yer judgement on that. I don't have any personal experience as a liar.
>>Choose the highest period of increase under another president's time and then you're able to state, see, I'm not half as bad as him!
What happened? Did you suffer a serious concussion?
Absolutely. This was political all the way. If the scouts shot this down repubsall over there'd states would have their seats threatened in the next election as folks wondered where their insurance went.
Prior to the ACA, there were reportedly about 45 million Americans without any health insurance. Following the inception of the ACA, as reported last September, that number had dropped to about 41 million.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/16/u...health-insurance-falls-survey-shows.html?_r=0
So, let's see. Even if we were to grant that all of the just under 4 million who are now insured are recipients of federal subsidies in states that don't provide an exchange - which is false since the majority of those 4 million are actually eligible now for Medicaid - you would have the difference between 41 million and 4 million. So your claim is that upwards of 50,000 of this 4 million are going to die because they lose the federal subsidies. Using your logic, about 500,000 are going to die with the federal subsidies because they still don't have insurance.
So, once again, the claim that removal of the federal subsidies would kill many many people is just utter nonsense.
They got close to the public-option though - 59 votes in the Senate, and then as the last senator to commit, Senator Lieberman cast the deciding vote to kill-it.I don't know that's true, but I've read it reported by many liberals who followed the debate and were keyed into leadership. But it doesn't matter - there was zero, none, zilch chance there were 60 votes in the Senate for single payer. There probably weren't 50 legitimate votes if 50 would have done the job.
Same thing basically with a public option - that didn't have 60 votes. Liberals whined that Obama gave that away, but there were enough democrats loyal to the big insurers that 60 for that was never a realistic option according to those who actually counted the votes.
So what you are trying to say is that states may not be competent enough to run their own exchanges.
You must be ecstatic about the new SCOTUS ruling then..an opposite ruling would have required states to set up exchanges.
Only 18 months of obamacare to go!
It's the law of the land now. The GOP will never overturn it. It'll be as toxic as going after social security.
I don't know if Texas will ever turn into a blue state or not; I don't see it happening anytime soon. One more good reason I'm moving to Colorado when my wife retires.
After only 18 months? Haha dream on buddy, dream on.
A republican in the White House is the death knell for obamacare...18 months to go!
Show us then.
And please don't use things like lowering premiums for specific groups, or subsidizing premiums. Show us where people said that premiums (not growth) would be lower overall with the ACA.
I think we will see you are wrong.
Your lack of comprehension is not a failure of the program.
After only 18 months? Haha dream on buddy, dream on.
A republican in the White House is the death knell for obamacare...18 months to go!
Is there any wonder why the majority of these "fact check" operations are arms of the liberal/progressive machine?
the claim that removal of the federal subsidies would kill many many people is just utter nonsense.
the links and discussion that premium rates were rising AS QUICKLY were based upon a link comparing them to the rises in one quarter of President Bush's term. The discussion was before and after Obamacare.
Check out black unemployment
Well I guess if you're gonna dream... Dream big.
I'd indicate to you that in my view, looking at this realistically, the next major move to alter or replace the ACA will be a single payer system similar to those in every other G20 nation. Reform will not go backwards. The insurance companies won't stand for it and there will never, in the highly divided US political system,be sufficient votes to simply rescind it.
Your only chance was to have an honest Chief Justice with the integrity to do his job as he swore under oath - you lost that chance when he wavered and caved to vanity and ego, not wanting to go down in history as the Chief Justice who, rightly, overturned the unconstitutional ACA.
The claim is that millions would lose health insurance if the ACA subsidies were eliminated. I'm not much interested in counting corpses. And I see you've now changed to "many many." Should I assume you'd be content with just "many"?
No need to wonder. Reactionaries don't rely on facts. The liberal/progressive machine exposes their lies.
I believe the GOP may also have to gain a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate as well, in order to do a full rescind.After only 18 months? Haha dream on buddy, dream on.
A republican in the White House is the death knell for obamacare...18 months to go!
I don't know if Texas will ever turn into a blue state or not; I don't see it happening anytime soon. One more good reason I'm moving to Colorado when my wife retires.
Yep, you better pray for Hilary. Except liberals aren't Christian, so do whatever you do in place of prayer....wish upon a star maybe.
Hillary is the only chance obamacare has.
And you and o both know this is never happening, it'll be Marco Rubip or 8 more years of Bush
That's why Canada is a second rate country and America is a superpower. Watch how we do it.
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