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Supreme Court unanimously blocks Mexico’s lawsuit against U.S. gunmakers

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The Supreme Court on Thursday unanimously blocked the Mexican government from proceeding with an unusual lawsuit that sought to hold major U.S. firearms manufacturers accountable for gun violence in that country.


The justices reversed an appeals court ruling, saying Mexico had failed to show a close enough connection between guns made in the United States and drug cartel violence.


“Mexico’s complaint does not plausibly allege” that the gun manufacturers “aided and abetted gun dealers’ unlawful sales of firearms to Mexican traffickers,” Justice Elena Kagan wrote for the court.
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Good decision, with the key word being “unanimously”.
 
SCOTUS keeps winning.
 
Good decision. Holding widget makers responsible for the criminal abuse of their widgets is ridiculous.
 
The Mexicans should have sued the people who cooked up the War on Drugs! The U.S. marketplace is the "attractive nuisance" that destroys nations. Only pure power politics has created international mores that blame every country where a flower or a bush will grow, rather than the ones that intentionally set up black markets for the profit of their own crooked officials, with some spillover for those doing the supply.
 
rhinefire said:
Mexico's anti-gun laws are some of the strictest in the world yet have one of the highest murder rates in the world. Why this irony? Guns from the U.S.
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Hmm… perhaps that’s because criminals don’t obey the law.

Do you hold knife or hammer makers responsible for the criminal abuse of their knives or hammers?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Hmm… perhaps that’s because criminals don’t obey the law.

Do you hold knife or hammer makers responsible for the criminal abuse of their knives or hammers?
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Sorry, the cartels have no use for toys only guns and bombs from the USA. The criminals here support the criminals there. Get it?
 
rhinefire said:
Sorry, the cartels have no use for toys only guns and bombs from the USA. The criminals here support the criminals there. Get it?
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The cartels are organized criminal organizations, thus US manufacturers have no way to stop them from committing crimes. Making guns in the US isn’t a crime.
 
rhinefire said:
Sorry, the cartels have no use for toys only guns and bombs from the USA. The criminals here support the criminals there. Get it?
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True, but that doesn’t make gun manufactures responsible for the activities of criminals in Mexico or the US.
 
rhinefire said:
Sorry, the cartels have no use for toys only guns and bombs from the USA. The criminals here support the criminals there. Get it?
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Honestly? No. Do we even export bombs to cartels? It would improve our trade deficit...
 
rhinefire said:
Mexico's anti-gun laws are some of the strictest in the world yet have one of the highest murder rates in the world. Why this irony? Guns from the U.S.
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Mexico has more than 4 times the murder rate of the US, but somehow guns from the US are the problem....Makes perfect sense.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Good decision. Holding widget makers responsible for the criminal abuse of their widgets is ridiculous.
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Widget makers are held responsible all the time for public safety.
If they make a productthey know is unsafe they will get prosecuted.
 
Peter said:
Widget makers are held responsible all the time for public safety.
If they make a productthey know is unsafe they will get prosecuted.
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Gun manufacturers are liable for any defects in design or manufacturing, as they should be. Holding them liable for someone else’s criminal actions is idiotic.
 
I could see Mexico suing Obama...but...not gun manufacturers.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Hmm… perhaps that’s because criminals don’t obey the law.

Do you hold knife or hammer makers responsible for the criminal abuse of their knives or hammers?
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that's simply inasne....who would have thought?
 
OlNate said:
Based on America's strategy of dealing with this sort of thing, Mexico should have simply imposed massive tariffs on America across the board. That would have fixed this.
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Okay, sure. Thanks for your input.
 
Peter said:
Widget makers are held responsible all the time for public safety.
If they make a product they know is unsafe they will get prosecuted.
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This isn’t a product safety situation - it’s a criminal abuse situation. Why aren’t knife makers held responsible for the criminal abuse of their knives?
 
Moon said:
Okay, sure. Thanks for your input.
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No problem, bud, I'm just surprised this wasn't included in the OP. Isn't that how you people deal with this sort of thing these days?
 
Hope the SC's unanimous decision is something we can all agree on. Mexico was dead in the water on this lawsuit. Blame the criminal and not the gun.
 
OlNate said:
No problem, bud, I'm just surprised this wasn't included in the OP. Isn't that how you people deal with this sort of thing these days?
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Who is “you people”? You appear to be lumping me in with a group whose membership I am unaware of.
 
trixare4kids said:
Hope the SC's unanimous decision is something we can all agree on. Mexico was dead in the water on this lawsuit. Blame the criminal and not the gun.
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And honestly it shouldn’t have gone this far, but I’m hoping the unanimous decision will halt future stupid lawsuits like the one this case terminated.
 
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