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Supreme Court formally asked to overturn landmark same-sex marriage ruling

its a license - everyone who qualifies should be able to get it, just like a hunting license or fishing license or business license



there is no equal rights when it comes to marriages - there are many rules/regulations/restrictions

do you not know that ?
"License" is a misnomer here. The license becomes the marriage certificate, the actual legal form that creates the marriage, the legal kinship recognition as soon as it is filed with the correct people. The marriage "license" becomes like a birth certificate, legal documentation establishing legal kinship unless dissolved by a court or other agreement.

There are always equal rights when it comes to marriage. Limitations based on factors that actually affect marriage, the kinship existing or not are not at all the same as limiting based solely on sex, race, or religion.
 
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Why limit it to two? Isn't that bigotry? The same bigotry that stalled the acceptance of Utah as a state?
No. Limiting it to two can be justified with the logistics of how marriage and spousal kinship works. Having only one person considered your "closest next of kin" is part of the reason why we recognize spouses to begin with.
 
I do know that because SCOTUS has a long list of decisions that apply here. And common sense.
SCOTUS has generally been favorable to religious rights. I dont know about rulings on religious workplace rights..
Just that baker dude
 
SCOTUS has generally been favorable to religious rights. I dont know about rulings on religious workplace rights..
Just that baker dude
SCOTUS has never been favorable to a person using their capacity as a government official to impose their personal religious beliefs on the citizenry they serve (and certainly not in defiance of a SCOTUS ruling and court order) or requiring their official subordinates to comply with their personal religious beliefs. Kim Davis is a clown who doesn’t stand a chance in a court of law. She must be a glutton for punishment because she’s already lost in court at least half a dozen times and SCOTUS has already told her to go away at least once.
 
do 14 year olds wanting to get married have equal protection?
polygamists have equal protection?
citizens of Idaho wanting to marry in Florida .... equal protection?
2nd cousins wanting to marry or mother/son ... equal protection ?

don't judge, don't be a bigot, don't discriminate, give equal protection .... right ?
Challenge the laws.

Minors do not have many of the rights adults do. We can justify this. Can a teenager be denied access to sale of cigarettes for being a teenager, underage? Can an adult woman be denied access to sale of cigarettes just for being a woman?

Having multiple spouses legally recognized as such does in fact cause issues legally. But if they really want that, challenge it. It will almost certainly require special consideration though because of how spouses are recognized. Also, number in a marriage is not a protected class, sex/gender is, like race and religion. Or are you also against the Loving decision.

I was living in Hawaii with my husband (fiance at the time) and we flew to Virginia to get married. What state doesn't allow nonresidents to get married in the state? I honestly don't know of any.

2nd cousins should be able to marry. The risk of congenital defects, issues with 2nd cousins or even cousins marrying is very small and they don't have the same level of familial kinship legally as immediate family, like parents to their children or siblings. But it would still be on them to challenge the laws that keep them from getting married.

You really need to learn what equal protection of the law means.
 
I would be happy with marriage being limited to a religious institution.
I would not. They do not own marriage and my marriage shouldn't mean less, my spouse as my legally recognized spouse, my inlaws legally recognized as such simply because some don't like the idea of others getting their spousal relationships, legal kinships recognized at the same level. Marriages as they are allow people to receive that recognition based on just signing a simple piece of paper, rather than having to spend hundreds or more to set up individual arrangements when most need the same thing or similar.
 
I would be happy with marriage being limited to a religious institution.
well, pragmatically we'd need something legal to replace it. If you want to substitute the words "secular contracted partner", that would be fine legally, but again pragmatically, you'd be fighting many years of culture and tradition. Simple enough to stick with marriage, which can be performed in any venue, and becomes legal when the appropriate paperwork is filed.
 
No. Limiting it to two can be justified with the logistics of how marriage and spousal kinship works. Having only one person considered your "closest next of kin" is part of the reason why we recognize spouses to begin with.
I've long wondered about the certificate 'need' of marriage, when common-law marriage is a very real, and very binding thing.
 
I don't think it will be overturned

However ... its also a license granted by a State only and therefore its not so much unlike a gun license. One state allows people to buy guns, others don't. Different rules and regulations apply and even different rules/regulations apply in marriage licenses too from State to state and who can get them and when etc

So like abortion, it might be left to States

Remember Arkansas voted to be same sex only state and the Fed Govt / Judges stepped in and said no no no the Will of the People doesn't matter

That would be overturning it.
 
Well they still overturned Roe-v-Wade, so I'm not certain of anything they'll do.
Roe v. Wade was a poorly crafted political compromise not a ruling of constitutional law. Even Ginsberg acknowledged that.
 
What do you actually get out of this? Nobody is trying to ruin lives for cheap laughs.
This is settled law, and it's not likely it will be overturned.

As for cheap laughs, maybe that's what the anti-Trumps get out of this. Lying for cheap laughs.
Republicans lied to their Log Cabin Republicans, beginning with Melania.

Racist North Carolina, your ilk, was the last state to legalize interracial marriage.

This is who your ilk still is:
 
Roe v. Wade was a poorly crafted political compromise not a ruling of constitutional law. Even Ginsberg acknowledged that.
Never underestimate MAGAs desire for control. We don't know what SCOTUS will do, and MAGA is quite determined to drag us backward. So maybe they'd uphold the previous rulings and arguments, but there's good probability they won't as well. There's no such thing as "settled law" with MAGA.
 
What do you actually get out of this? Nobody is trying to ruin lives for cheap laughs.
This is settled law, and it's not likely it will be overturned.

As for cheap laughs, maybe that's what the anti-Trumps get out of this. Lying for cheap laughs.

Roe was “settled law” all the way up until Trump’s pet SCOTUS decided it wasn’t.

In the majority opinion overturning Roe, Thomas specifically cited Obergfell as another decision that could be overturned on the same basis.
 
Never underestimate MAGAs desire for control. We don't know what SCOTUS will do, and MAGA is quite determined to drag us backward. So maybe they'd uphold the previous rulings and arguments, but there's good probability they won't as well. There's no such thing as "settled law" with MAGA.
There has never been such a thing as forever “settled law” and for that you should be grateful.
 
That would be based on the person, don't you think? Some people don't feel the need to broadcast their sexual preferences. Others chant, scream, and get in your face telling you that they are gay and what are you going to do about it.

When a man is walking down the street holding hands with his wife is he “broadcasting his sexual preference”?

What if that man is holding hands with his husband?
 
There has never been such a thing as forever “settled law” and for that you should be grateful.
Ergo, you do not know that SCOTUS will uphold same-sex marriage. Despite it being a rational decision to uphold it, based on proper argument and law, MAGA isn't rational. So the probability DOES exist that they might overturn it.

Yes, that's what I've said previous.
 
we discriminated marriage licenses being given all the time

age discrimination
relational discrimination
resident discrimination

like every license, rules and regulations always vary

So you are comparing two men marrying with an adult marrying a child or incest? They are comparable from a regulation standpoint?
 
One of the reasons for Obergefel is the fact that separate aint equal. Separate civil unions were not equal.
 
Incorrect. The justification for same-sex marriage bans was not and is not equally applied to opposite-sex applicants.

maybe not the justification but it IS equally applied to every man

again I point to all the other discriminations that marriage licenses have that people have no problem with
 
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