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Supreme Court fails: Declines to take up lifetime gun rights ban

Rich2018 said:
How do you know when it's fake news ?
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Most reporting is objective, there is little fake news, but there are points where you need to discern, where the media keep you on your toes.

I can get a pulse from fox, cnn, or the networks, I can see my President, and absorb some information there and so forth.

It's pretty easy to tell the lies, most of them are Republican.
 
Exquisitor said:
Most reporting is objective, there is little fake news, but there are points where you need to discern, where the media keep you on your toes.

I can get a pulse from fox, cnn, or the networks, I can see my President, and absorb some information there and so forth.

It's pretty easy to tell the lies, most of them are Republican.
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I'd say most reporting is subjective - pick any recent news story, with a political angle, and I'll demonstrate it for you

Not sure what you mean by a "pulse" in this context

News outlets need to be constantly pouring out news, if there's nothing to pour out, they won't so much invent any, but they'll take a scrap of news, they'd otherwise ignore, and inflate it up to something they can sell.
 
CaughtInThe said:
if we're gonna have the 2nd, and people do their time for non-violent stuff, then i don't see why they can't own a gun like virtually all other Americans.
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depends on the crime. I think if the person was convicted of things like murder, rape, domestic violence...a gun should never go in their hands again.
 
ClaraD said:
where did I say just domestic violence...I gave a few examples of those who should not own guns...in no way did I say just those.
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By your inclusion of domestic violence and non-mention of non-domestics violence

(other than murder or rape).
 
ClaraD said:
murder and rape are not mentioning other than DV? really?
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Did I not say you mentioned murder and rape ? As if that covered the non-domestic violence
And if a man murders or rapes his wife, I'd call it murder or rape not just "domestic violence".
 
Rich2018 said:
Did I not say you mentioned murder and rape ? As if that covered the non-domestic violence
And if a man murders or rapes his wife, I'd call it murder or rape not just "domestic violence".
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So, when the dude walked into that transportation center in San Jose and killed those people...you call that domestic violence? Its not...its murder. So, Ted Bundy was just committing domestic violence? Or was he a serial killer convicted of murder? These are separate from Domestic violence. Rape is not charged as Domestic violence regardless of if it is a wife or a stranger, it is charged as rape. Stop trying to argue your way out of this box you put yourself in. You didn't read my post except for DV...why does that bother you that I do not want scum to own a gun?
 
Fishking said:
If a government can permanently strip away your rights for certain violations then all they need to do is figure out new laws to catch you on, or that you feel is unjust/oppressive and, boom, there go your rights forever.

We have so many laws these days, it's ridiculous.
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Absolutely! The government should not be allowed to take away rights permanently.
 
ClaraD said:
If you get your record expunged you get the rights back...however, some actions require actions such as this.
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Once you serve your time you should get your rights back.
 
highroller said:
Once you serve your time you should get your rights back.
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Nope certain people never should have all of their rights back..murderers, child predators, mentally unstable folks...should not own a gun....we have enough mass shootings to deal with.
 
ClaraD said:
Nope certain people never should have all of their rights back..murderers, child predators, mentally unstable folks...should not own a gun....we have enough mass shootings to deal with.
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Then lock them up and throw away the key. If they can’t be rehabilitated, then they can’t rejoin society.
 
highroller said:
Then lock them up and throw away the key. If they can’t be rehabilitated, then they can’t rejoin society.
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I would say that is what we should do with pedophiles, but unfortunately the court has the say in that and not society. Pedophiles cannot be reformed.
 
ClaraD said:
So, when the dude walked into that transportation center in San Jose and killed those people...you call that domestic violence?
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No, it was not domestic (meaning inside the home or relating to individuals who share an abode)

ClaraD said:
...its murder.
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Yes

ClaraD said:
...Rape is not charged as Domestic violence regardless of if it is a wife or a stranger, it is charged as rape.
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Same with murder

ClaraD said:
Stop trying to argue your way out of this box you put yourself in.
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What box?
It is you who limited your (non rape, non murder, violence to "domestic"

ClaraD said:
You didn't read my post except for DV...why does that bother you that I do not want scum to own a gun?
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It doesn't, but why do you exclude non-domestic violence, eg:

6abc.com

Homeless man charged in NYC sucker punch of Asian woman has 17 prior arrests

A homeless man accused of sucker punching an Asian woman outside a NYC restaurant Monday has 17 prior arrests, including several for assault, according to police.
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That wasn't rape or murder...or "domestic" violence
You are so insular, believing that there isn't a big, bad world out there that's FULL of violence

Why shouldn't scum like this be banned from having a gun just because the victim was unknown to him ?
 
Rich2018 said:
No, it was not domestic (meaning inside the home or relating to individuals who share an abode)



Yes



Same with murder



What box?
It is you who limited your (non rape, non murder, violence to "domestic"
I

That wasn't rape or murder...or "domestic" violence
You are so insular, believing that there isn't a big, bad world out there that's FULL of violence

Why shouldn't scum like this be banned from having a gun just because the victim was unknown to him ?
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I didn't say ONLY...so, I did not limit myself
 
Rich2018 said:
You omitted non-domestic violence

I'm saying it deserves to be included.
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No, I didn't....murder and rape are both non domestic violence....they are examples....

The fact the US Supreme Court did not take it up tells me that they do not believe that gun rights are infinite.
 
noonereal said:
WTF are you talking about? More rape and murder occurs among couples than anywhere else.
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murder and rape are murder and rape...they are never classified under law as domestic violence.....you aren't an American or you do not understand simple law principals one or the other.

Was it domestic violence when the guy walked into the transportation yard in San Jose and killed people ? Its murder.. not domestic violence.
 
I see that there are two people here that have basic law comprehension issues or they are absolutely trying to troll...

Sorry, but your so called Conservative court...disagreed that people have infinite gun rights...they don't.
 
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