The government has no business spying on we the people ie their employers. We should scrutinize everyone who comes into this country and be choosey in who we let in.
More thorough background checks on anyone who travels internationally to the region or any region known for high amounts of terrorism.
If you have family in Riyadh, I have no problem with you getting to the airport 8 hours ahead of your departure time and preparing for a TSA agent to crawl up your ass sideways.
When I returned from Kenya, after two years, my check-in luggage was dumped and inspected by customs.
Quit smuggling in marathon runners.
Now France is reported to have illegally spied on its citizens. The arguments are predictable; the measures are needed as security efforts to preemptively combat terrorism. The often unspoken truth is twenty-first century terrorism has one thing in common; its roots originate in the Middle-East, directly or indirectly.
The question arises; which is better? Support government efforts to continue to spy on its own people or enact policies that end or sharply curtail travel into and from the west from countries where strong western sentiment in common? Commensurate with new travel restrictions, the government begins to scale back domestic surveillance on citizens.
If countries where high anti-American sentanent exists want their citizens to be able to come here again they must meet certain benchmarks over time.
- Fair and balanced equal time over media outlets that bash America.
- Defunding of educational institutions that advance anti-American ideologies.
- Pro-American curriculum taught in their classrooms that highlight the good things America has done throughout its history as well as dipicting American life in a positive light.
No one is forced; if they would prefer to not to do so, great, don't come here.
Or is spying on Americans to see what if any contact we have with people from anti-American regions is going on a better idea?
More thorough background checks on anyone who travels internationally to the region or any region known for high amounts of terrorism.
If you have family in Riyadh, I have no problem with you getting to the airport 8 hours ahead of your departure time and preparing for a TSA agent to crawl up your ass sideways.
I know this isn't the intent of your thread, but seriously... the list of nations that DOESN'T spy on it's own citizens is probably the shorter list. If not literally non-existent.Now France is reported to have illegally spied on its citizens.
I know this isn't the intent of your thread, but seriously... the list of nations that DOESN'T spy on it's own citizens is probably the shorter list. If not literally non-existent.
Don't disagree, just making a semi-related observation.Yes, but if our government isn't on that short list, then our government needs to have some serious problems coming its way.
Don't disagree, just making a semi-related observation.
I know this isn't the intent of your thread, but seriously... the list of nations that DOESN'T spy on it's own citizens is probably the shorter list. If not literally non-existent.
No one is forced; if they would prefer to not to do so, great, don't come here.
Or is spying on Americans to see what if any contact we have with people from anti-American regions is going on a better idea?
TSA should be abolished, and you may not infringe so grievously against one's rights and dignity without proof.
I agree with the TSA being abolished, but I don't think extensive and thorough background checks to be "infringing" on anything.
Are you willing to have the TSA crawl up your ass 8 hours before every flight? Or are you really so blind that you think that it will never be turned on you?
I'm not in the danger zone.
You forget - I don't object to profiling.
Because you won't be profiled. It's really easy to support discrimination against other people, isn't it?
To the OP, terrorism is such a minor threat to our lives and safety. We spend millions more in time and money fighting terrorists than they do terrorizing us. There is not danger around every corner, nor a scheming Jihaddist on every airplane coming out of Muslim countries. Terrorism is just the next overblown boogeyman, now that the scary commies are out of the picture. Let's stop letting our unfounded fears shape our lives so much. When we do that, that's the terrorists winning. Remember that line? We became less like America and more like them because we were afraid of them. The terrorists won. Why does anyone continue to let that happen?
I'm not in the danger zone.
You forget - I don't object to profiling.
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