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United Methodists Lose 1,800 Churches in Split Over LGBT Stance
The initial departures, mostly concentrated in the South, represent around 6 percent of the denomination—not as dramatic as the “schism” some feared.
Why don’t you ask your elders?
The simple fact that you have gotten all these words wrong, tells me that you don't have God's word right either. Denial on your part in 3...2...1...
I'm not speaking of water immersion. That would be an outward sign/demonstration of an inward change.
I was not speaking of any kind of water or symbolism, which the ceremony most certainly is. My point stands.
I’m curious. Which version of the Bible do you study?
Sectarian strife warms my cold, black heart.
What is the definition of homosexuality Oxford?
That is because the Bible has proven to not be infallible or corruptible. If it was then the Adulterer's Bible would never had even one copy printed, yet alone the many copies that got out before the error was caught.
Nope...His Word covers EVERYTHING, it's His overall Message throughout the Bible. The stories are supposed to support that Word and most do...even if some are misinterpreted...accidentally or on purpose.
If you dont break His Word, it's not a sin: forgiveness, peace, brotherly love, compassion. So how can being gay be a sin? It harms no one.
Here's an example tho, of men choosing to interpret His Word...with good intentions:
Saying that fornication is a sin. Men of the times knew that women had no options outside of their father's or husband's homes. It was safer for women to be married off, protected from stray men and unwanted pregnancies, and they wanted to get them producing babies. All seen as "positive, beneficial" for women. "Protecting them." They thought it was the right thing. And maybe it was, for that time. But today, with women being self-sufficient, educated, using birth control, etc...we dont need to be protected that way. Sex outside marriage harms no one.Not adultery, that harms others, but fornication is just sharing sex outside marriage. It's not a sin.
Never heard that
It's complete and it covers everything. Name something you think is a sin that isnt included under His Word of forgiveness, peace, brotherly love, and compassion? We already saw that homosexuality and fornication are not included...they harm no one. They encompass brotherly love and possibly beyond.
Now murder, rape, theft, harming others and their property, acting on unkindness, envy, etc...sure, sins. All go against His Word.
There are just too many verses of scripture to bother to copy and paste them into my response. Adultery is a sin. Sexual immorality is a sin. Lying is a sin. Theres so much more but I wont bother. I’m done with you.Nope...His Word covers EVERYTHING, it's His overall Message throughout the Bible. The stories are supposed to support that Word and most do...even if some are misinterpreted...accidentally or on purpose.
If you dont break His Word, it's not a sin: forgiveness, peace, brotherly love, compassion. So how can being gay be a sin? It harms no one.
Here's an example tho, of men choosing to interpret His Word...with good intentions:
Saying that fornication is a sin. Men of the times knew that women had no options outside of their father's or husband's homes. It was safer for women to be married off, protected from stray men and unwanted pregnancies, and they wanted to get them producing babies. All seen as "positive, beneficial" for women. "Protecting them." They thought it was the right thing. And maybe it was, for that time. But today, with women being self-sufficient, educated, using birth control, etc...we dont need to be protected that way. Sex outside marriage harms no one.Not adultery, that harms others, but fornication is just sharing sex outside marriage. It's not a sin.
Never heard that
It's complete and it covers everything. Name something you think is a sin that isnt included under His Word of forgiveness, peace, brotherly love, and compassion? We already saw that homosexuality and fornication are not included...they harm no one. They encompass brotherly love and possibly beyond.
Now murder, rape, theft, harming others and their property, acting on unkindness, envy, etc...sure, sins. All go against His Word.
No, it's dishonest.
No, it's fun.
Also dishonest.
So no more then?
Don't flatter yourself. You never really got started.
It’s impossible to refute a denier. You’re just an excuse maker. Your explanations are based on lies. I’ve told you that you’re deceived. It’s clear that the UMC is apostate and you deny that. You’re no different than the people of the world. Sin reigns in your life. You embrace sin and call it brotherly love, compassion, etc. There’s no argument against someone like that except to tell you the truth. And I have but you deny the truth. We’re done. I told you that. Move on.
