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Students build robot that solved Rubik's Cube in .103 seconds

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Talented students to build that, and the bot just takes care of it. Pretty amazing.

Still more amazed at the people that can solve that thing in a matter of seconds.
Never did get it myself. But haven't touched one since a kid. I did figure out how to solve Rubik's linking rings puzzle though.
 
Jesus. These things are gonna put everyone out of a job.
 
Not for these kids that are learning how to build and control/program/manipulate them 🤷‍♀️
Actually the first people AI has started putting out of jobs are exactly the software engineers.

 
Even that. Actually the first people AI started putting out of jobs were exactly the software programmers.


There’s a difference in the developers that write typical coding and the developers that do embedded software engineering and development that works with the AI chips and hardware.

The type that know how to do the engineering are already in short supply.

These are not computer science students - these are electrical and computer engineering students. The two things are not the same.
 
There’s a difference in the developers that write typical coding and the developers that do embedded software engineering and development that works with the AI chips and hardware.

The type that know how to do the engineering are already in short supply.

These are not computer science students - these are electrical and computer engineering students. The two things are not the same.
What’s to keep that from going AI too soon?

Heck these things are doing complex surgery from opening skin incision to skin closure now. Just amazing. And scary.

If they can do complex surgery, they can do engineering.

 
What’s to keep that from going AI too soon?

Heck these things are doing complex surgery from opening skin incision to skin closure now. Just amazing. And scary.

If they can do complex surgery, they can do engineering.

Eventually every job will be able to be performed by robots if the timeline is long enough

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Eventually every job will be able to be performed by robots if the timeline is long enough

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Yep- that’s what I’m worried about. And the timeline doesn’t even look like it’s gonna be all that long either.

I suspect it’s going to shake up society big time- maybe even more than the Industrial Revolution.
 
Jesus. These things are gonna put everyone out of a job.
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If only. The idea of humans being able to build machines that make human labor superfluous as a bad thing only highlights what mental slaves to capitalism some of us are. Labor isn't supposed to be end but a means to an end. The end being the satisfaction of human want and desire. Capitalism has turned the means to an end in and of itself. We might be approaching a day where capitalism as a tool is no longer necessary or useful and that may not be a bad thing. In it's wake what we might be left with are pursuits engaged in for nothing more than the simple joy of it.
 
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If only. The idea of humans being able to build machines that make human labor superfluous as a bad thing only highlights what mental slaves to capitalism some of us are. Labor isn't supposed to be end but a means to an end. The end being the satisfaction of human want and desire. Capitalism has turned the means to an end in and of itself. We might be approaching a day where capitalism as a tool is no longer necessary or useful and that may not be a bad thing. In it's wake what we might be left with are pursuits engaged in for nothing more than the simply joy of it.
Interesting. But that's a world I can't even begin to imagine how it would work.
 
Interesting. But that's a world I can't even begin to imagine how it would work.
Me neither really but its probably prudent we start doing so. These machines are getting pretty impressive. Not that they weren't before. We've come a long way in my short existence. I tried to explain a beeper to my nephew one time, who can do the rubix cube in 3 mins. with one had and had a robotics lab at his middle school, and he looked at me like I was describing an abacus.
 
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If only. The idea of humans being able to build machines that make human labor superfluous as a bad thing only highlights what mental slaves to capitalism some of us are. Labor isn't supposed to be end but a means to an end. The end being the satisfaction of human want and desire. Capitalism has turned the means to an end in and of itself. We might be approaching a day where capitalism as a tool is no longer necessary or useful and that may not be a bad thing. In it's wake what we might be left with are pursuits engaged in for nothing more than the simple joy of it.
So what you're describing is WALL-E.

We turn into a bunch of fat ass slobs who can't walk without robotic help. I find that ludicrous on 2 counts
1 Human ingenuity and curiosity would override human sloth and laziness over time.
2. Robots would simply decide they don't need us and let us rot in our own fat ass juices. Assuming they don't nuke us from space. It's the only way
 
So what you're describing is WALL-E.

We turn into a bunch of fat ass slobs who can't walk without robotic help. I find that ludicrous on 2 counts
1 Human ingenuity and curiosity would override human sloth and laziness over time.
2. Robots would simply decide they don't need us and let us rot in our own fat ass juices. Assuming they don't nuke us from space. It's the only way
For point 2...



Why? Why would robots do this?
 
For point 2...



Why? Why would robots do this?
Why not? Why keep servicing a sack of meat that does no good or helps civilization none at all? By Master Debater's logic humans would just set around and be joyful.

I suppose the caveat might be if the builders adopted the Asimov 3 rules for Robotics

  1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
  2. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
  3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
 

Talented students to build that, and the bot just takes care of it. Pretty amazing.

Still more amazed at the people that can solve that thing in a matter of seconds.
Never did get it myself. But haven't touched one since a kid. I did figure out how to solve Rubik's linking rings puzzle though.
The speed is amazing. I'm surprised that the cube doesn't fly apart from the centrifugal force.

The world record for a human is 3.134 seconds.

 
Not for these kids that are learning how to build and control/program/manipulate them 🤷‍♀️

Obviously the AI is learning faster than people and once it realizes this it will easily bypass our control.



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The speed is amazing. I'm surprised that the cube doesn't fly apart from the centrifugal force.

The world record for a human is 3.134 seconds.


Have a kid that can do it in 9 seconds right now but a few years ago a girl did it in 7 seconds. Crazy.




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Interesting. But that's a world I can't even begin to imagine how it would work.

It will look radically different, but we're a long way off.

We as individuals work to create a profit in order to have money to buy things.
If/when AI machines do all the work, the main issue is where does our money come from? One possibility is instead of businesses paying wages, that money instead is given to government to distribute it to the populace.
 
Obviously the AI is learning faster than people and once it realizes this it will easily bypass our control.



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At which point you unplug it.
 
Have a kid that can do it in 9 seconds right now but a few years ago a girl did it in 7 seconds. Crazy.
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Try solving three Rubik's cubes while juggling them.

 
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