Student gets failing grade on paper for mentioning "biological women".

[JBG]

Labradoodle is not a gender and its a different species. Unlike gender, you can't be a different species. And if you really believed you were a Labradoodle, you wouldn't be communicating with us on this site. Labradoodles are not sentient, not able to communicate with humans, can't operate a keyboard or computer.

Because of what I consider myself I can do my business where I please, and bite whomever I wish to.

 

[zincwarrior]

Because of what I consider myself I can do my business where I please, and bite whomever I wish to.

Well you had my Poodle's attention, now you have her interest! She wants me to send a glamor shot.

 

[Aristaeus]

You can piss off someone for all sorts of things. But the evidence shows that some, many in fact, LGB people have no issue calling and accepting transgender women lesbians, when they are, or transgender men gay men, when they fit those attractions based on their gender attractions.

If you found a trans man to be attractive, would you feel that you were homosexual or heterosexual. Just going off their looks, nothing more, no knowledge of their anatomy or even that they were transgender. Only that they are someone that you find attractive. What about if you found a trans woman attractive? Again, same criteria. Don't know anything about their anatomy or that they are transgender, only that they are someone that you find attractive.

They can be lesbians depending on how you define a lesbian, but they can't be homosexual, which is same-sex attraction.

Obviously, if you change the definition of lesbian to no longer mean homosexual female, then yes, a heterosexual male can be a lesbian.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

That was always the rule throughout my many school years.

The TAs and profs that I dealt with as an undergraduate used to tear the cover sheet off my papers so that they didn't have to read the titles that I gave them. I wrote "right-wing" papers in the classes with "left-wing" profs and "left-wing" papers in the classes with "right-wing" profs. I really used to tick them off because most of my papers were over 50% "primary source" research (frequently from sources that they didn't know existed) and I also used to cite my own papers in other classes as "unpublished private papers". In short, I was a real academic pain in the butt so I only achieved a graduation GPA of 3.85.

I wonder if the fact that I had full voice and vote regarding whether on not my profs got promoted/tenured had anything to do with the fact that they actually marked my papers based on their content and reasoning rather than on whether they liked the content and reasoning.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Do you mean like LGBT community members facing expulsion at Christian colleges if they aren't in the closet?


Are you saying that hasn't happened?

Just a few miles from where I live there is a fully accredited "Fundamentalist Christian" university. "LGBT community" members are enrolled there and face expulsion if they engage in "sexual intercourse" outside of marriage or if they indulge in "public displays of sexualized behaviour". Of course, so to "straight" community members.

 

[roguenuke]

Because of what I consider myself I can do my business where I please, and bite whomever I wish to.

Not even dogs can do their business wherever they please, or bite whomever they wish, without consequences, generally negative ones.

 

[NatMorton]

Yes. Professors grade as they see fit.

Figuring out what a teacher/professor wants and expects to see as a work product is a big part of formal education.

And a skill that applies in countless ways outside the classroom.

Got a love this. We should allow professors to issue failing grades to students who don’t politically conform because it’s good for the students.

 

[JBG]

Not even dogs can do their business wherever they please, or bite whomever they wish, without consequences, generally negative ones.

Labradoodles are an exception. They bite almost everyone then run into.

 

[NatMorton]

“Biological women” isn’t a thing though. You biologically be a social category. You can be a biological female, and have certain biological characteristics, but you can’t biologically be a gender.

Suggest you find a dictionary. Biological sex is a longstanding definition of the word “gender.” It’s in the dictionary today and it goes back centuries.

 

[NatMorton]

The student misused the term "woman" on purpose. Within the context of the class the correct term is biological female.

How did she misuse it? Please be specific.

 

[Rickeroo]

Course syllabus:

Using multiple lenses, based in feminist, antiracist, and LGBTQ-positive studies, we will engage with course content

Identify and comment upon common techniques of (re)producing race, sex, and gender stereotypes, challenging their validity and producing alternative responses.

As if the "white cisgender male" sterotype would be challenged in this class.

 

[NatMorton]

Using multiple lenses, based in feminist, antiracist, and LGBTQ-positive studies, we will engage with course content

“Using multiple blinders” would be a more accurate statement.

 

[BirdinHand]

Got a love this. We should allow professors to issue failing grades to students who don’t politically conform because it’s good for the students.

Sounds to me that she enrolled in a class and wrote a paper just to be contrary and is now complaining because she received a grade she didn’t like.

Why pick that class if she wasn’t going to abide by the professor’s rules? The course is an elective, not a requirement.

 

[BirdinHand]

Course syllabus:

Using multiple lenses, based in feminist, antiracist, and LGBTQ-positive studies, we will engage with course content

Identify and comment upon common techniques of (re)producing race, sex, and gender stereotypes, challenging their validity and producing alternative responses.

As if the "white cisgender male" sterotype would be challenged in this class.

Am elective class has a course topic that some disagree with.

Shocking.

Why this this student pick the class if she wouldn’t abide by the syllabus and professor’s rules?

It’s an elective.

 

[NatMorton]

Sounds to me that she enrolled in a class and wrote a paper just to be contrary and is now complaining because she received a grade she didn’t like.

Why pick that class if she wasn’t going to abide by the professor’s rules? The course is an elective, not a requirement.

Well, you've got me there. After reading the syllabus Ricker' posted it's reasonable to question the thinking of anyone who would voluntarily sign up to waddle through that field of intellectual cow pats.

 

[Rickeroo]

Am elective class has a course topic that some disagree with.

Shocking.

Why this this student pick the class if she wouldn’t abide by the syllabus and professor’s rules?

It’s an elective.

False advertising with the name of the course. The course is titled "Gender in Pop Culture". This suggests an objective view, meanwhile the lenses through which the course is presented is deemed to be feminist, antiracist, and LGBTQ-positive. There is a glimmer of hope however:

These artifacts will ground our discussions but students also are expected to contribute
their own knowledge, experience, and perspectives – bearing in mind that, while each
student’s experiences and perspectives are valid, our opinions (although rarely unique)
are not in fact universal; our personal experiences cannot invalidate others’ equally valid
opinions. Our class is a collaborative environment, where each person is to be
respected and everyone’s substantive contributions are to be valued.

This appears at first to validate student's personal opinions and contribution to the class, however the term "substantive" is likely up to the teacher's determination. Given the lenses used in the course, non-woke input will likely be viewed as less substantive.

Given the lenses of the course, I'd say that a cisgender student's opinions would certainly be invalidated by a more valid opinion by an LBGT student, which is why we see the biological woman "mishap" and the failing grade.

 

[roguenuke]

Labradoodles are an exception. They bite almost everyone then run into.

They aren't an exception when it comes to our laws. Your labradoodle cannot just bite people without consequences.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

They aren't an exception when it comes to our laws. Your labradoodle cannot just bite people without consequences.

Yeah but I asked my neighbour's one about it and was told "Well, maybe not, but you can stick your nose in their ... They'll let you do anything if you're cute.".

 

[JBG]

They aren't an exception when it comes to our laws. Your labradoodle cannot just bite people without consequences.

They pretty much bite anyone they get near.

 

[roguenuke]

They pretty much bite anyone they get near.

And there are consequences for the dog and/or owner that does that if it is reported as it should be.