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I'm not asking for a legal perspective from you. I'm asking what YOU would have children do when they've been brought here by their parents.
This falls under the same argument as "would you steal, if you were starving?" Yes, the person would steal, however, they would also have to accept the consequences if caught.
The answer to your specific question that you asked is, I wouldn't have expected her to leave the country of her own free will.
However, as a college student who has obviously had some education of U.S. law, she shouldn't be surprised that she might have to serve some time and eventually be deported when caught though.
She took a risk and committed a crime by not coming forward when she turned 18 that she was illegal. Even though her parents were the ones that brought her, she committed the crime by continuing it even though she knew she was illegal.
She was a minor, so it was her parents that committed the particular crime of bringing her across the border. She herself committed several more, such as driving without a license and fraudulently obtaining funds from the state.
Besides anything hasnt she been driving without a licence? Im sure everyone would be fne if she plowed into the back of them.
I accept public grants and scholarships to attend school, so what?
Im saying that this case highlights a glaring flaw in our immigration policy when we're tossing out people who are trying to be productive members of our society.
While it's certainly nice that this woman has managed to attend a few years of college, how does that change the fact that she's here illegally?
RightinNYC said:Should we put a clause in the immigration law saying that illegals will not be deported so long as they're hard-working? The prevalence of emotional reasoning in this country is just depressing.
RightinNYC said:You've got to be kidding me. The chancellor claims that they couldn't possibly enforce a citizenship requirement, because it would cost $5/student. Given that Ms. Colotl alone bilked over $30k from the state coffers, that seems a little ridiculous.
Okay, thanks for the point-by-point...but what the hell do you expect someone to do if they were brought her illegally as a minor.
What do want them to do personally.
They're not criminals as children, so what do YOU want them to do when they turn 18?
That's what I'm asking here. What do you expect them to do practically as human beings.
And, I'm sorry - if she gave them the address where she was residing, then the whole in-state vs. out-of-state thing is ****ing ridiculous. Regardless of legality, if she gave police the address where she was residing, to charge her with a felony for reporting a false address is just draconian. What address was she supposed to give them? A random address in Mexico that she hadn't been to since she was 10 years old?
She's been here for over a decade, and her PARENTS brought her here.
The only rationale against illegal immigration that makes even a modicum of sense is the argument that they're a drain on public resources. This girl is getting a college education and is obviously intelligent. What exactly is she doing to harm the country?
It's not "emotional reasoning" to suggest that our government might want to employ the slightest bit of discretion before deciding to deport someone.
She was living in the state and received in-state tuition. She didn't steal anything.
Thanks. I appreciate that, but what should a seemingly intelligent (based on the description of her academic success) person do? It seems to me that she likely would have become a productive member of society.
Should those who were brought here as minors have some path to legal citizenship as long as they come forward - say within six months of their 18th birthday?
Admittedly, she broke the law and those who are rabidly anti-illegal are all thrilled to toss her back across the border - but humanistically, what are the children supposed to do?
That's what I'm seeking.
Sorry if I have sympathy for someone who was essentially forced into this position by actions taken by their parents when they were children.
Student?s Arrest Tests Immigration Policy - NYTimes.com
While it's certainly nice that this woman has managed to attend a few years of college, how does that change the fact that she's here illegally? Should we put a clause in the immigration law saying that illegals will not be deported so long as they're hard-working? The prevalence of emotional reasoning in this country is just depressing.
You've got to be kidding me. The chancellor claims that they couldn't possibly enforce a citizenship requirement, because it would cost $5/student. Given that Ms. Colotl alone bilked over $30k from the state coffers, that seems a little ridiculous.
Let's not forget that she may have gotten her education at the expense of someone who played by the rules and waited in line, and is still waiting.
I say deport her.
While I agree that immigration reform is necessary....this hard line stance against any amnesty is really hard to swallow.
There are a lot of people that were brought here as children who know no other country that this one...who are productive people in our society.
Its just wrong to want to deport them.
My best friend was brought here at 3 years old. He is now 38 years old. He has been trying to apply for citizenship for years, but the beauracy and papertrail is ridiculous.
His parents brought him and his sister from El Salvador to escape the wars and turmoil there.
He is always afraid he is going to be deported...and he knows no other country than the United States.
Seriously....should he be sent back to El Salvador? I don't think so.
"Waiting in line" is a myth. The slots go to those who can pay off the immigration officials and secure a spot.
i'm sorry....but the way I see it is that there are plenty of people who are given citizenship by virtue of being lucky enough to have been born here than want to milk the system and be a drain on our economy because they are entitled to be an American.
I don't have a huge problem with people who want to work and contribute to our society and are willing to work hard and pay taxes....but perhaps just don't have the same entitlements.
If the law says in black and white that someone who is here illegally in these circumstances must be deported, then it is absolutely "emotional reasoning" to say "But she's attending college and sounds hard-working, so they should make an exception."
How about applying for citizenship or a green card? Was any effort made to comply with the laws of the land?
Although she would still be breaking the laws, had she done anything to set herself on the legal path to citizenship, I think most here, and possibly a judge, would look differently on her crimes.
Jessica Colotl, a 21-year-old college student and illegal Mexican immigrant at the center of a contentious immigration case, surrendered to a Georgia sheriff on Friday but continued to deny wrongdoing.
Jessica Colotl, a 21-year-old college student and illegal Mexican immigrant
Ms. Colotl was arrested in March for driving without a license
On Wednesday the sheriff filed a felony charge against her for providing a false address to the police.
Ms. Colotl received in-state tuition, substantially reducing her cost of attending Kennesaw State
“I was treated like a criminal”
The law says no such thing, as catch-and-release is a fairly common practice for illegal immigrants.
And even if the law did mandate deportation, the government is under no obligation to prosecute it if it doesn't feel like it.
So seems to be somewhat split here...
Any others that think despite the fact she's violated the law a number of times, and committed fraud against the government to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars, that she should not only not be deported but should be free of any charges and allowed to continue at school?
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