Re: Steve King,Sean Hannity and Bill O'Rielly spewing racism.
lol, I literally just explained it to you: pointing to trends with in a group, even a group defined along racial lines, does not posit that those trends are derived from something inherent and dependent on race.
Again, clearly poverty is rife in the African American community. But pointing this out does not presuppose that it is due to some inherent racial flaw (caused due to some inherent defect with "blackness"). Such could be *caused* by many things that have no dependency on race, from govt policy that either directly or indirectly affects that racial group to cultural behaviors and ideals developed over time.
It's a rather simple point that I am honestly amazed that you find so confounding
lol, I literally just explained it to you: pointing to trends with in a group, even a group defined along racial lines, does not posit that those trends are derived from something inherent and dependent on race.
Of course they do. Your explanation fell flat. How can you point to trends within a racial group and then claim that those trends have nothing to do with the racial group you use to draw your example? You haven't explained this. Probably because you can't.
Again, clearly poverty is rife in the African American community. But pointing this out does not presuppose that it is due to some inherent racial flaw (caused due to some inherent defect with "blackness").
Ok. This is a racial group that has endured the effects of racism throughout the history of this country. This nation was created as a White Male Supremacist society. It's embedded into our constitution. We had slavery in this country. That's a fact. We fought a Civil War over slavery. That's another fact. We had Jim Crow after that. It's a fact. We saw lynchings of blacks. That's a fact. We saw signs that stated White Only that's a fact. We saw segregation. Another Fact. It was so bad, we had to create a Civil Rights Act and a Voting Rights Act, which would NEVER have been necessary if racism wasn't rampant in the country. And so you want to tell me that at some point, it all disappeared? That it no longer exists?? That discrimination is gone? Knowing that this has been a part of life in America from it's founding and is seen today with attacks on this President and his family, and you have to ask where poverty comes from? I'm well aware of Conservatism and its effects on race.
Situationally, conservatism is defined as the ideology arising out of a distinct but recurring type of historical situation in which a fundamental challenge is directed at established institutions and in which the supporters of those institutions employ the conservative ideology in their defense. Thus, conservatism is that system of ideas employed to justify any established social order, no matter where or when it exists, against any fundamental challenge to its nature or being, no matter from what quarter. Conservatism in this sense is possible in the United States today only if there is a basic challenge to existing American institutions which impels their defenders to articulate conservative values.
The Civil Rights movement was a direct challenge to the existing institutions of the time, and conservatism as an ideology is thus a reaction to a system under challenge, a defense of the status – quo in a period of intense ideological and social conflict.
The very notion of a race of people that was; at our beginnings as a country, only considered to be 3/5’s of a human being, now having equal footing with those that actually believed in this idea, is a direct challenge to a long held social concept. It denied the idea of white supremacy as legitimate. It’s surprising how many people still cling to this idea, and will go to extreme lengths to perpetuate it.
The idea that a person that could have been your slave at one time, could today be your boss, or even President of the United States, is more than some people can deal with on an emotional level. White supremacy as an institution is renounced, discredited, and dismantled, and that is a major blow to an existing order, and conservatism is always a reaction to a challenge to an existing order. These are people that desperately need somebody to look down to in order to validate their own self-worth. “Sure, life is tough. But at least I’m White.” They can no longer rely on a policy that used to be institutionally enforceable. When that is removed by law, hostility is the result; hostility for those that have been emancipated by law and elevated to equal status, and hostility for the law itself including those that proposed it and passed it.
Thus, hatred for African-Americans and for the Liberal’s and liberal policies that endorse their equal status is fully embraced by the conservative.
