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Spikes in heart and brain

Good4Nothin said:
Maybe his doctors insisted he get the vaccines because he was high risk for covid.
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The same thing they are reporting he had "unexpectedly" in his brain, heart are in fact symptoms of Covid. So had he got Covid, the same reactions were likely.

That's just it, if the person's immune system is reacting a certain way to the vaccine, then it is highly likely that their immune system would react at least that way to a Covid infection, likely worse. Because what they are talking about is the immune reaction this man had to the vaccine, not the vaccine itself being found within those areas of his body.
 
americanwoman said:
So if the Covid vaccine may have contributed to the death of this 76 year old man and Covid has killed 6,551,107 people overall, your conclusion is to bash the vaccine? :unsure:
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Good4Nothin said:
A recent case study in the Vaccines journal describes autopsy results of a 76 year old man, who died after a third covid vaccination.

"The findings corroborate previous reports of encephalitis and myocarditis caused by gene-based COVID-19 vaccines."


www.mdpi.com

A Case Report: Multifocal Necrotizing Encephalitis and Myocarditis after BNT162b2 mRNA Vaccination against COVID-19

The current report presents the case of a 76-year-old man with Parkinson’s disease (PD) who died three weeks after receiving his third COVID-19 vaccination. The patient was first vaccinated in May 2021 with the ChAdOx1 nCov-19 vector vaccine, followed by two doses of the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine in...
www.mdpi.com www.mdpi.com
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Appropriate username for posting such stupid shiite
 
Just think of all the children who have now lost parents because of the anti-vaccine propaganda. That's some sad shit.
 
Good4Nothin said:
We now know the spikes can go anywhere in the body, and the immune system will not necessarily destroy them. And we don't know how long cells might continue generating them.

Therefore, long term could be years or decades from now. No one can really guess.
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We know that COVID kills parents.

Three were my friends.
 
Good4Nothin said:
The spikes are known to be toxic. They cause most of the damage in a natural covid infection. And they also can cause damage if they result from the vaccines.
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Any links/references for these claims?
 
Hamish Howl said:
Yeah, I think I'm gonna stick with the Mayo Clinic on this one.
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Absolutely! Lets see what they have to say.

Messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine. This type of vaccine uses genetically engineered mRNA to give your cells instructions for how to make the S protein found on the surface of the COVID-19 virus. After vaccination, your muscle cells begin making the S protein pieces and displaying them on cell surfaces. This causes your body to create antibodies. If you later become infected with the COVID-19 virus, these antibodies will fight the virus.

Exposing your immune system to controlled amounts of COVID spike protein is literally how vaccines work.
 
Mithros said:
I wouldn’t be so quick.

Novavax is a traditional vaccine. It has rare but increased occurrences of mitocarditus, just like the mRNA vaccines.

Myocarditis and pericarditis have been reported with Nuvaxovid (Novavax COVID-19 Vaccine)

www.medsafe.govt.nz www.medsafe.govt.nz

And the culprit does not appear to be an immune response to the vaccine.
www.thelancet.com

Lack of evidence of significant homology of SARS-CoV-2 spike sequences to myocarditis-associated antigens

Our results do not support the notion that increased occurrence of myocarditis after SARS-CoV-2-spike vaccination is mediated by a cross-reactive adaptive immune response.
www.thelancet.com

It looks like the COVID spike protein causes heart inflammation if gets into the heart. This is a significant risk of infection. Typically the vaccine particles stay very close to the injection site. But most is not all. It is very likely that the small amount of spike protein which trains the immune system is the cause of very rare mild mitocarditus. And even if it’s not the cause, all COVID vaccines carry some additional risk.


The mRNA vaccines are pretty unpleasant. They have some small risk. It’s not credible not to acknowledge this. But I’ll happily take every recommended dose because the small discomfort and risk is a hell of a lot better than the alternative.
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Really? What is the alternative? You really think covid is a death sentence? For almost everyone it is like having a bad cold. Or a not so bad cold. Especially the newer variants. How is it possible you don't know this?
 
Mithros said:
Absolutely! Lets see what they have to say.

Messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine. This type of vaccine uses genetically engineered mRNA to give your cells instructions for how to make the S protein found on the surface of the COVID-19 virus. After vaccination, your muscle cells begin making the S protein pieces and displaying them on cell surfaces. This causes your body to create antibodies. If you later become infected with the COVID-19 virus, these antibodies will fight the virus.

Exposing your immune system to controlled amounts of COVID spike protein is literally how vaccines work.
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Except the amounts of spike protein are NOT controlled. And where they go in the body is unpredictable.
 
Fledermaus said:
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Dose is controllable.

COVID is not controllable.
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You believe the early propaganda. The mRNA vaccines cause your cells to generate the covid spike proteins. The mRNA is synthetic and genetically engineered to be more durable than natural RNA. It is different from natural RNA in other ways also. There is no way to predict how much of the spike protein will be generated by your cells. And there is no way to predict where in your body the spikes will go.
 
Good4Nothin said:
You believe the early propaganda. The mRNA vaccines cause your cells to generate the covid spike proteins. The mRNA is synthetic and genetically engineered to be more durable than natural RNA. It is different from natural RNA in other ways also. There is no way to predict how much of the spike protein will be generated by your cells. And there is no way to predict where in your body the spikes will go.
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🤣
 
Good4Nothin said:
You believe the early propaganda. The mRNA vaccines cause your cells to generate the covid spike proteins. The mRNA is synthetic and genetically engineered to be more durable than natural RNA. It is different from natural RNA in other ways also. There is no way to predict how much of the spike protein will be generated by your cells. And there is no way to predict where in your body the spikes will go.
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Full Stop. You can get a NovaVax today if you're worried about mRNA. It's a traditional vaccine and you can literally count the spike proteins. Getting a vaccine is MUCH safer than getting COVID. And if you're immune to COVID you're immune to the vaccine so you've got nothing to worry about. This isn't about proving you wrong or making some political point. Its about taking care of your health. Also selfishly spending money on healthcare is a waste compared to just not being sick in the first place.

That said, mRNA is EXTREMELY fragile. That's why it has to be transported at ungodly cold temperatures. When it's not frozen it breaks down extremely quickly. It's essentially out of your system within a day or two. The mRNA vaccines are not fun. But they are very safe and very effective. I'm not looking forward to getting the 4th dose. But a few hours of aches are a hell of a lot better than long COVID.
 
Mithros said:
Full Stop. You can get a NovaVax today if you're worried about mRNA. It's a traditional vaccine and you can literally count the spike proteins. Getting a vaccine is MUCH safer than getting COVID. And if you're immune to COVID you're immune to the vaccine so you've got nothing to worry about. This isn't about proving you wrong or making some political point. Its about taking care of your health. Also selfishly spending money on healthcare is a waste compared to just not being sick in the first place.

That said, mRNA is EXTREMELY fragile. That's why it has to be transported at ungodly cold temperatures. When it's not frozen it breaks down extremely quickly. It's essentially out of your system within a day or two. The mRNA vaccines are not fun. But they are very safe and very effective. I'm not looking forward to getting the 4th dose. But a few hours of aches are a hell of a lot better than long COVID.
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If I were forced to get another covid vaccine I would get NovaVax. But I was talking about the vaccines we had access to so far.

And covid is not risky, especially the newer variants. At the beginning covid was brand new and killed off many of the most vulnerable. That is no longer the case. There is no reason for the non-vulnerable to be scared of covid anymore.

And yes, natural mRNA is fragile. The synthetic genetically engineered mRNA in these vaccines? How fragile is that? No one knows, except maybe the people who designed them. Even they were probably very unsure how long the mRNA would stick around or how many spikes it would generate, or where the spikes would go in each individual. Their great idea -- let's vaccinate millions and see what happens!
 
Mithros said:
Absolutely! Lets see what they have to say.

Messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine. This type of vaccine uses genetically engineered mRNA to give your cells instructions for how to make the S protein found on the surface of the COVID-19 virus. After vaccination, your muscle cells begin making the S protein pieces and displaying them on cell surfaces. This causes your body to create antibodies. If you later become infected with the COVID-19 virus, these antibodies will fight the virus.

Exposing your immune system to controlled amounts of COVID spike protein is literally how vaccines work.
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Point of order:

The S protein is not the spike protein.
 
Good4Nothin said:
You believe the early propaganda. The mRNA vaccines cause your cells to generate the covid spike proteins. The mRNA is synthetic and genetically engineered to be more durable than natural RNA. It is different from natural RNA in other ways also. There is no way to predict how much of the spike protein will be generated by your cells. And there is no way to predict where in your body the spikes will go.
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This is a pack of lies.
 
Luce said:
Point of order:

The S protein is not the spike protein.
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The spike protein (S protein) is a large type I transmembrane protein ranging from 1,160 amino acids for avian infectious bronchitis virus (IBV) and up to 1,400 amino acids for feline coronavirus (FCoV) (Figure 1). In addition, this protein is highly glycosylated as it contains 21 to 35 N-glycosylation sites. Spike proteins assemble into trimers on the virion surface to form the distinctive "corona", or crown-like appearance. The ectodomain of all CoV spike proteins share the same organization in two domains: a N-terminal domain named S1 that is responsible for receptor binding and a C-terminal S2 domain responsible for fusion (Figure 2). CoV diversity is reflected in the variable spike proteins (S proteins), which have evolved into forms differing in their receptor interactions and their response to various environmental triggers of virus-cell membrane fusion.​
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I'm happy to be proven wrong, but I'm fairly certain that's what it is.
 
Mithros said:

The spike protein (S protein) is a large type I transmembrane protein ranging from 1,160 amino acids for avian infectious bronchitis virus (IBV) and up to 1,400 amino acids for feline coronavirus (FCoV) (Figure 1). In addition, this protein is highly glycosylated as it contains 21 to 35 N-glycosylation sites. Spike proteins assemble into trimers on the virion surface to form the distinctive "corona", or crown-like appearance. The ectodomain of all CoV spike proteins share the same organization in two domains: a N-terminal domain named S1 that is responsible for receptor binding and a C-terminal S2 domain responsible for fusion (Figure 2). CoV diversity is reflected in the variable spike proteins (S proteins), which have evolved into forms differing in their receptor interactions and their response to various environmental triggers of virus-cell membrane fusion.​
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I'm happy to be proven wrong, but I'm fairly certain that's what it is.
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Okay, I stand corrected.
 
Luce said:
Okay, I stand corrected.
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I had to look it up too. I just assumed S-Protein meant spike protein.. then after you posted that I though.. wait.. why would someone abbreviate spike as s, but leave protein.
 
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  • Vaccine engagement package to all entertainment talent and management agencies
  • Vaccine engagement package to all media companies and show producers
  • Outreach to major culture event producers
  • Produce HHS question-and-answer videos featuring local Black doctors discussing the vaccines, how they work, and why the public should get vaccinated
  • Request that Tom Brady create a video with his parents encouraging vaccination
  • Create custom partnerships with the social media platforms with algorithms to hit the audience
  • Launch Hollywood comedy writers video content
  • Work with YouTube on an original special about vaccinations targeted to young people
  • Work with Instagram to produce a series about vaccines for @Instagram (the largest social media account in the world, 387 million followers)
  • Request major TikTok, Snapchat and Instagram influences to create videos of themselves being vaccinated
  • Request a vaccination special on Christian Broadcast Network featur[ing] Evangelical leaders
  • Request that the major live TV entertainment shows feature hosts being vaccinated on air (ex: the hosts of The Voice)
  • Request that the TV morning and daytime talk shows feature special vaccination reunion moments with everyday Americans
  • Convene an editorial meeting with the publishers of Catholic newspapers and newsletters across the country
  • Place a trusted messenger on the Joe Rogan Show and Barstool Sports to promote vaccination
  • Work with the NFL, NASCAR, MLB, CMA to request they create content with their talent and release through their broadcast and social channels
www.naturalnews.com

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Judicial Watch has nailed it yet again, suing HHS to acquire a treasure trove of documents that reveal the world’s most exhaustive, heavily funded and wide-ranging propaganda campaign to try to convince the oblivious masses to be injected with an experimental mRNA concoction that isn’t even a...
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basionok said:
Campaign by the Biden administration to propagandize and politicize the COVID vaccine.:

  • Vaccine engagement package to all entertainment talent and management agencies
  • Vaccine engagement package to all media companies and show producers
  • Outreach to major culture event producers
  • Produce HHS question-and-answer videos featuring local Black doctors discussing the vaccines, how they work, and why the public should get vaccinated
  • Request that Tom Brady create a video with his parents encouraging vaccination
  • Create custom partnerships with the social media platforms with algorithms to hit the audience
  • Launch Hollywood comedy writers video content
  • Work with YouTube on an original special about vaccinations targeted to young people
  • Work with Instagram to produce a series about vaccines for @Instagram (the largest social media account in the world, 387 million followers)
  • Request major TikTok, Snapchat and Instagram influences to create videos of themselves being vaccinated
  • Request a vaccination special on Christian Broadcast Network featur[ing] Evangelical leaders
  • Request that the major live TV entertainment shows feature hosts being vaccinated on air (ex: the hosts of The Voice)
  • Request that the TV morning and daytime talk shows feature special vaccination reunion moments with everyday Americans
  • Convene an editorial meeting with the publishers of Catholic newspapers and newsletters across the country
  • Place a trusted messenger on the Joe Rogan Show and Barstool Sports to promote vaccination
  • Work with the NFL, NASCAR, MLB, CMA to request they create content with their talent and release through their broadcast and social channels
www.naturalnews.com

Shocking trove of HHS records reveals most aggressive vaccine propaganda campaign EVER: Screenwriters, comedians, church leaders, black doctors and influencers all PAID OFF to pimp the vax – NaturalNews.com

Judicial Watch has nailed it yet again, suing HHS to acquire a treasure trove of documents that reveal the world’s most exhaustive, heavily funded and wide-ranging propaganda campaign to try to convince the oblivious masses to be injected with an experimental mRNA concoction that isn’t even a...
www.naturalnews.com www.naturalnews.com
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