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Specifically - what is No Kings? Specific policies only.

iamwhatiseem said:
Several Presidents have placed National Guard when the state didn't want it
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The only times the National Guard has been sent by a POTUS has been when state governors tried to prevent de-segregation of schools and/or deployed their guard to block black students from going to schools.

Presidents deployed the guard to end the blockades and make sure black students were able to attend schools.

Any other time the National Guard has been sent, governors agreed to the deployment.
 
Its a rejection of the unitary executive and the imperial presidency. Its a rejection of scotus ruling that presidents should have total immunity.
 
Callen said:
It was clear from the get go you were simply going to dismiss anything that was put forward .

Although President's can negotiate trade deals only Congress can ratify them.
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I was having this exact same discussion about Trump seizing absolute power with other right-wingers on a couple of other threads, and they refused to acknowledge the evidence as well.

7 million people out on the streets last weekend sure acknowledged it.
 
"No Kings" is a rejection of Trump's policies in general, and in particular his zeal for pushing the limits of his authority.

With a 50+ disapproval rate, we don't really need more than that, especially if you are right and nothing significant has changed.
 
Callen said:
It was clear from the get go you were simply going to dismiss anything that was put forward .

Although President's can negotiate trade deals only Congress can ratify them.
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No
I said specific policies, that make him like a King. It stands to reason, OBVIOUSLY, it would have to be policies that other Presidents did not also do.
 
roberthughey said:
Biden used EO's to bypass congress all the time.
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And I disagree with the practice regardless of who does it.

roberthughey said:
Not true.
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Absolutely true. Trump and others have referred to No Kings protesters as terrorists - comparing them to Hamas, ISIS and Hezbollah. Trump is saying he's "looking into" the protests.
 
WillyPete said:
"No Kings" is a rejection of Trump's policies in general, and in particular his zeal for pushing the limits of his authority.

With a 50+ disapproval rate, we don't really need more than that, especially if you are right and nothing significant has changed.
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So not a King then.... exactly what is said - there is no actual thing to protest other than you don't like him.
Which is why, some Democrat organizations wanted to drop the "No Kings" name because it doesn't make sense and is ineffective.
 
iamwhatiseem said:
No
I said specific policies, that make him like a King. It stands to reason, OBVIOUSLY, it would have to be policies that other Presidents did not also do.
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The policy of ending programs created by Congress, the policy of impounding funds allocated by Congress allocated, the policy of militarizing our society, the policy of politicizing our military.

Its not complicated.
 
iamwhatiseem said:
So not a King then.... exactly what is said - there is no actual thing to protest other than you don't like him.
Which is why, some Democrat organizations wanted to drop the "No Kings" name because it doesn't make sense and is ineffective.
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I believe that it was inspired by the Declaration of Independence that, amog other things, protested the king's sending troops into their communities and interfering with their trade.
 
iamwhatiseem said:
So nothing specific, and opinion based. Because - easily - Biden could be 100% said he did the same, only a lot more
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That was a list of specific things....not sure how specific you want, do you want a laundry list of links to specific actions? I'm not taking the time to do that so that you can just ignore it.

No, Biden did not 100% do any of that. You have to go back to Nixon to find a President doing what Trump is doing, and Nixon resigned because he was going to be impeached for his abuse of power.

It's not an opinion that Trump has used emergency powers to federalize the guard and implement broad tariffs on the rest of the world. It's not an opinion that Trump literally misposted what was meant to be a DM telling Pam Bondi to go after people he doesn't like.

Yes, if you live in an alternate reality with alternate definitions and alternate ability to recognize facts, none of that is specific and is just opinion.
 
iliveonramen said:
That was a list of specific things....not sure how specific you want, do you want a laundry list of links to specific actions? I'm not taking the time to do that so that you can just ignore it.

No, Biden did not 100% do any of that. You have to go back to Nixon to find a President doing what Trump is doing, and Nixon resigned because he was going to be impeached for his abuse of power.

It's not an opinion that Trump has used emergency powers to federalize the guard and implement broad tariffs on the rest of the world. It's not an opinion that Trump literally misposted what was meant to be a DM telling Pam Bondi to go after people he doesn't like.

Yes, if you life in an alternate reality with alternate definitions and alternate ability to recognize facts, none of that is specific and is just opinion.
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Yes Biden did.
See how that works?
So again, no policies.
 
iamwhatiseem said:
Let's hear it - what specific policies leads to claims that Trump is like a King?

Go.
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Here is a list.
Please respond with deflecting to Biden or other previous Presidents.

Under Donald Trump's leadership we are seeing a deliberate shift away from rules based government toward a government based on personal loyalty, self interest and disregard for institutional norms.

Examples of this shift include:


  • Weakening federal agencies by sidelining career experts, dismantling agencies and leaving key roles unfilled.
  • Increasing political influence over the courts and Justice Department, especially through loyalty-centered appointments.
  • Using the Justice Department to shield allies and target critics, rather than applying law consistently.
  • Installing unconfirmed “acting” officials to bypass Senate oversight and accountability.
  • Testing conflict-of-interest norms by mixing personal financial gain with public authority.
  • Undermining public trust in elections, inspectors general, government reporting and nonpartisan civil servants.
  • Blurring the line between money and access, rewarding loyalty and donations with influence.
  • Issuing pardons to allies without transparent justification or process.

These are not policy differences, these are structural changes happening in the Federal government. Do we want our government to answer to agreed upon rules or to the whims of one person?

GO!
 
Sidd Finch said:
The entire planet knows what's going on, except MAGA. Some things will never change.
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Yeah, I thought this thread was going to shock me and be a good faith discussion on Trump policies.

Instead, it's the OP putting his fingers in his ears and just trolling.
 
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