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A good parent holds a 4 year old hand so they can't run into traffic.
Duh
You don't wait for them to run out then beat them
Kids should grow up in the world knowing that their parents will never physically harm them. The world may be violent, but home shouldn’t be.On the other hand, should children grow up with the idea that they will never be physically harmed?
What she said. Spanking only teaches kids that physical assault is socially acceptable.
Its also causes long term problems in children.
I have CPTSD as a result of my mothers sociopathic actions. She was beaten as a child and so believed that she earned the right to do it to her children.
I broken that chain because nobody touched my daughter.
We sat down and talked about any behavior problems instead of spanking.
Kids should grow up in the world knowing that their parents will never physically harm them. The world may be violent, but home shouldn’t be.
Sure it did, perhaps you just enjoyed it a little too much?meh, never hurt me.
Masochism is the enjoyment of receiving pain or humiliation.and i preferred a goood spankin over any other punishment.
you all missed out on so much. FOMO.
You can hold your child's hand WHEVER they are out side and potentially near danger like traffic. Easy as can be. My kids were brought up on very busy fast city roads. We knew how to take care of themyou physically restrain your child? how brutal and cold and heartless ! child abuse !!!
of course, you cannot hold the hand of your kid 24x7 .... parents know this
Sure, 'cause we're all psychic like you!we can all tell who's had kids and who hasn't !!
stealthycat said:
yes, you can pinch them really hard under their arms and that gets their attention too
spanking is a form of regret for having kids.Let me state this: Though retired I know quite a few kids and their parents. Kids nowadays are labeled as lazy, entitled, spoiled, and snarky.
Not my experience. I could post dozens of studies that show that children that are spanked are actually more likely to grow up wanting to spank their kids than parents who use other methods to discipline.
Of all the parents I know, none use spanking, and their kids are doing fine. Mind you, that is just from a casual observation, not exactly a scientific study.
Still................... spanking is still perceived as a necessary form of discipline. And arguments for and against can become quite intense. Typically "Don't tell me how to discipline my child!"
So, straight up, is spanking effective? Or, as it is happening in some countries, should be outlawed? Even if not outlawed, should it still be used as a form of discipline in this day and age?
This isn’t about parenting, it is about adult treatment of children. No one needs physical punishment to learn proper behavior. I think it is dangerous to think that parents own their children and can do whatever they want to them. Or that any adult can do whatever they want to a child to teach them anything.
The way you describe spanking doesn't make it sound so bad.This thread has arrived at the place these threads always arrive at, so I've kinda checked out, bud. People love to tell other people how to parent.
I'll just say this briefly, and then I'm out:
I needed physical punishment as a kid, and my mother was never cruel with it, so I tend to think about it differently. We are close to this day, I gabbed with her on the phone for over an hour just yesterday (and told her that a good portion of the forum thought she was a big meanie...hehe). I am glad someone cared enough about me to do something they hated and might be criticized for so I wouldn't turn out to be a douchebag. And I don't think it had anything to do with her believing she "owned" me, or that she could do "whatever she wanted". You'll just have to believe me, that's not who she is.
My son, on the other hand, did not need it, so I never really had to mess around with it.
I am not saying a child must be spanked any more than I'm saying they must not be. I'm familiar with what the studies say, and I'm familiar with my own experience, and my takeaway is that different things work for different people.
And that's me done with this thread.If we agree to disagree, I'm ok with that, and I don't hate you for where you've landed.
The way you describe spanking doesn't make it sound so bad.
It's when some people, particularly, and ODDLY, always from a particular demographic, start saying things like the spanking was needed for "training" your kids. Read back a few of the comments posted and see what spanking - by those particular individuals - is being used for.
Lord have mercy. You STILL couldn't answer the question. That's ok, not answering IS an answer.
Lol, beating a child is beating a child. People that do this should face jail.
Yes I know they are just ignorant and unskilled at parenting people but it must be stopped so they MUST face jail time.
Listen and learn from me.
Spare the rod, spoil the child isn't accurate either, but a lot of folks go by that too.
I think when we get past generalizing we'll be in better shape to come up with individual solutions for individual situations. I just find it tough to have this conversation in a debate format.
Hat, i get to The Point when i write my threads.
from my Perspective, you all are Desperate.
Jamie has the antidote.
give her a listen and live. your kids will live delighting you in the Process.
the Question is: are you Desperate?
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This isn’t about parenting, it is about adult treatment of children. No one needs physical punishment to learn proper behavior. I think it is dangerous to think that parents own their children and can do whatever they want to them. Or that any adult can do whatever they want to a child to teach them anything.
The alternatives in a world full of bad parents are beating kids or kids growing up thinking they will never be harmed.
In the world of good parenting, there is nuance for kids to learn that physical harm will never come from their parents.
There is also nuance to teach them that harm can come from others and they should be ready to defend themselves.
Not so massive if you’re a kid watching it. A difference, yes. But what kids imagine is sometimes far worse than reality. Adults watch a horror movie and know it’s just a movie. Kids watch it and internalize it sometimes as something that could happen to them.There is a massive difference between a video of violence and being victim to it.
Yes, because as discipline declined, the instance of crime by youth disappeared..
Oh wait, it's steadily increased over the last 30 years.
Just coincidence though.
Spanking isn't physical harm. The fact that you can't be honest tells us so much.
So raise children without discipline and teach them to be bullies. Sounds like what the left would promote.
Your Anti-Semitism is noted,
I seriously hope you are NOT an example of someone who was spanked. It would be all the proof we need that spanking doesn't work.Yes, because as discipline declined, the instance of crime by youth disappeared..
Oh wait, it's steadily increased over the last 30 years.
Just coincidence though.
Spanking isn't physical harm. The fact that you can't be honest tells us so much.
So raise children without discipline and teach them to be bullies. Sounds like what the left would promote.
This is all the ramblings of a person looking to justify failures as a parent by hitting little kids.
So you try and blow smoke that as discipline has declined,
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