Somebody please answer: What is Joe going to do differently on the Virus that Trump is not always doing?

[Rawley]

I hope that there's a national mask mandate with teeth to it. Enough of this shit.

Has he told you where he would have the power to dictate such a mandate and who is going to enforce it?

 

[Rawley]

Compare a trump rally to a Biden rally

A clear and obvious difference

If you can't see it then there is no hope for you

Are you saying he would govern the country the way he runs his events?

 

[Rawley]

Why is it, then, that the US has so many cases and so many deaths per capita compared to the rest of the world?

Why does Belgium have the highest deaths per capita?

 

[Integrityrespec]

Wear a mask, not calling epidemiologists idiots, avoid packing maskless people together like sardines, stop blaming it on china and Dem govs., .....

Do you realize that mask were claimed to work and then not to work by Fauci, the man the democrats say listen too? Do you know that all epidemiologist do not agree on masks? https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/23/why-scientists-change-their-mind-and-disagree.html

Trump will wisk you away in helicopter to the best hospital and cure you with the best stuff. But then again, it's just a Dem hoax....

What are the odds you are going to get Covid and die from it? Not very great. What is the chance that a Joe Biden shutdown of the economy will ruin the economy, cost families their income and their businesses and send us into a recession or depression? highly possible.

 

[Integrityrespec]

Wear a mask, not calling epidemiologists idiots, avoid packing maskless people together like sardines, stop blaming it on china and Dem govs., .....

Why scientists are changing their minds and disagreeing during the coronavirus pandemic

In our culture, we often hold politicians, corporate executives and other leaders accountable for the consistency of their positions. But in the scientific world, thinking is expected to evolve based on new evidence — and that's happened during Covid-19.

www.cnbc.com

 

[Integrityrespec]

Democrats are looking to radically change he country. The intend to send us down the road to socialism, green new deal and open borders. They will place millions on government subsidies and run deficits of trillions of dollars and then tax us into poverty. Why would anyone want these things? Power and control. That is the democrat party. They have promised to help black americans for decades in exchange for their votes. Then after the elections they forget those promises, and yet black voters continue to follow the promises that have ruined black family structure.

 

[Helix]

Has he told you where he would have the power to dictate such a mandate and who is going to enforce it?

it's sorta like a president who thinks that it's cool to start a trade war unilaterally, only with a positive outcome. in the mean time, mask up.

 

[Rawley]

it's sorta like a president who thinks that it's cool to start a trade war unilaterally, only with a positive outcome. in the mean time, mask up.

Congress granted the President the power to unilaterally impose tariffs. Now answer the question rather than avoiding it. Has Biden told you where he would have the power to dictate such a mandate and who is going to enforce it?

 

[Oborosen]

Congress granted the President the power to unilaterally impose tariffs. Now answer the question rather than avoiding it. Has Biden told you where he would have the power to dictate such a mandate and who is going to enforce it?

I see you are busy casing a few runners as well.

It's good fun, but keep it to a minimum. Save your time for legitimate posters.

Though you could start up a tally. That's what I did.

 

[Helix]

Congress granted the President the power to unilaterally impose tariffs. Now answer the question rather than avoiding it. Has Biden told you where he would have the power to dictate such a mandate and who is going to enforce it?

he hasn't called lately. i'll get back with you if he does.

 

[jaeger19]

Democrats are looking to radically change he country. The intend to send us down the road to socialism, green new deal and open borders. They will place millions on government subsidies and run deficits of trillions of dollars and then tax us into poverty. Why would anyone want these things? Power and control. That is the democrat party. They have promised to help black americans for decades in exchange for their votes. Then after the elections they forget those promises, and yet black voters continue to follow the promises that have ruined black family structure.

Please define socialism and give an example of it

 

[ttwtt78640]

wow, Nancy will shove him out? talk about delusional. MC, you used to at least attempt to post honestly. Sure everything you believed was a lie and you would cowardly cut and run when you no longer avoid the truth. But this, you're not even trying to be honest anymore.

That scenario (assertion?) clearly has some basis in fact.

Pelosi said the measure is not intended specifically for President Donald Trump, but she suggested he was the impetus for it.

“This is not about President Trump. He will face the judgment of the voters, but he shows the need for us to create a process for future presidents,” she said. "This legislation applies to future presidents, but we are reminded of the necessity of action by the health of the current president."

Pelosi introduces bill to create a commission on presidential capacity under the 25th Amendment

Pelosi said that the measure is not intended specifically for President Donald Trump, but she suggested he was the impetus for needing it.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[ALiberalModerate]

So if Biden "leans on" the states and some of the states resist then what should he do? Likewise, using the Commerce Clause would be a significant stretch. It would be opposed by several states, end up in the Supreme Court and then what?

The federal government has a lot of influence over state policy. Why do you think the legal drinking age is 21 in all 50 states?

 

[Vern]

That scenario (assertion?) clearly has some basis in fact.

Pelosi introduces bill to create a commission on presidential capacity under the 25th Amendment

Pelosi said that the measure is not intended specifically for President Donald Trump, but she suggested he was the impetus for needing it.

www.nbcnews.com

the scenario/assetion has no basis in fact. And thats how easy it is to respond to "nuh uh". If you want to discuss this, you need to have a legitimate reason to believe she's going to use it on Biden. Not a fox news based reason. Remember, MC's reason degenerated into "something something socialism". the people who ran around believing every lie the right told them about President Obama born in Kenya, his BC a forgery, he wants to kill old people, (put all Obamacare lies here) and the vile and disgusting "stand down" lies have resorted to just another lyng narrative. (they have to lay of the deficits lies for a bit).

 

[ttwtt78640]

the scenario/assetion has no basis in fact. And thats how easy it is to respond to "nuh uh". If you want to discuss this, you need to have a legitimate reason to believe she's going to use it on Biden. Not a fox news based reason. Remember, MC's reason degenerated into "something something socialism". the people who ran around believing every lie the right told them about President Obama born in Kenya, his BC a forgery, he wants to kill old people, (put all Obamacare lies here) and the vile and disgusting "stand down" lies have resorted to just another lyng narrative. (they have to lay of the deficits lies for a bit).

Hmm... there are two (viable) 2020 POTUS candidates and only one of them is not the current POTUS. That seems to leave Biden as the only immediate (next term) potential evaluation target of such a “fitness for office” commission. If that was not Pelosi’s intent then there is no rush (immediate reason) to add such legislation.

 

[Vern]

Hmm... there are two (viable) 2020 POTUS candidates and only one of them is not the current POTUS. That seems to leave Biden as the only immediate (next term) potential evaluation target of such a “fitness for office” commission. If that was not Pelosi’s intent then there is no rush (immediate reason) to add such legislation.

so you need to show that she intends this only for the next president not any future presidents. I'm just not connecting the dots like you and MC. I know, let me prove beyond all doubt this is just another lying conservative narrative like President Obama born in Kenya, his BC a forgery, he wants to kill old people, (put all Obamacare lies here) and the vile and disgusting "stand down" lies (again, they have to lay of the deficit lies for a bit).

Trump, meanwhile, tried to turn the bill back on his Democratic opponent, Joe Biden, falsely claiming Pelosi is "looking at the 25th Amendment in order to replace Joe Biden with Kamala Harris."

Trump said it. That proves its not true.

 

[Rawley]

he hasn't called lately. i'll get back with you if he does.

Got it. You don't listen to the senile **** either. But you'll vote for him. That's ****ed up.

 

[ttwtt78640]

What in the Constitution prohibits a mask mandate? The 10th amendment explicitly gives that power to the states so if Biden leaned on the states to individually implement mask mandates there would likely be no constitutional issues. At the federal level you may be able to justify at least a partial mandate under the commerce clause.

That would depend on what form that “leaning on” takes. The commerce clause does not afford any special (law making?) powers to the POTUS.

 

[Dittohead not!]

No, Democrats just choose to let super spreading events of protest and riots to continue for days on end and then label anyone who has an issue with those situations as racist, white-supremacist, fascist.. etc etc.

And even the democrats have held rallies that flaunted these same rules. So your premise is already flawed on face alone.

Democrats have held rallies that flaunt common sense rules recently? Examples?

 

[Dittohead not!]

More testing means more official cases. There is also this little dirty secret to the statistics due to the way a hospital gets compensated from Federal dollars for a covid death, which means a 24 year old who dies in a motorcycle accident and his blood tests positive for covid, they put down covid as the cause of death.

That, to use one of Biden's words, is pure malarkey.
If there is one thing Trump is good at, it's spreading malarkey, and the above is straight out of Trump's book of excuses.

 

[Gaius46]

That would depend on what form that “leaning on” takes. The commerce clause does not afford any special (law making?) powers to the POTUS.

That wouldn't be under the commerce clause. I was thinking more conditioning covid specific funding on implementing mask mandates. Of course that requires congress to pass a funding bill with such a provision but assuming Biden wins and the democrats gain control of the Senate it's doable.

The commerce clause approach would basically require Congress to pass a law saying that wholesale and retail establishments that engage in interstate commerce would be required to enforce a mask mandate. That's not a universal mandate and wouldn't cover every store but it would likely cover most.

Constitutional scholar types I read are split on whether the commerce clause approach is constitutional or not, the main objection seems to be that compelling customer behavior may be an issue, but it's not an off the wall idea.

 

[Dittohead not!]

Nice dodge. Is that the best you can do?

What do you expect when you make a claim that the president can control the media?

 

[ttwtt78640]

That wouldn't be under the commerce clause. I was thinking more conditioning covid specific funding on implementing mask mandates. Of course that requires congress to pass a funding bill with such a provision but assuming Biden wins and the democrats gain control of the Senate it's doable.

The commerce clause approach would basically require Congress to pass a law saying that whole and retail establishments that engage in interstate commerce would be required to enforce a mask mandate. That's not a universal mandate and wouldn't cover every store but it would likely cover most.

The post to which I replied made no mention of congress, but did mention Biden as being able to “lean on” the states as well as the commerce clause.

 

[Rawley]

Democrats have held rallies that flaunt common sense rules recently? Examples?

Curfew In Philadelphia Lifts As City Is Roiled By Protests In Walter Wallace Shooting

Mayor Jim Kenney ordered the curfew amid unrest after the fatal police shooting of the 27-year-old Black man. The city's police commissioner says bodycam footage will be released "in the near future."

www.npr.org

 

[Gaius46]

The post to which I replied made no mention of congress, but did mention Biden as being able to “lean on” the states as well as the commerce clause.

Yeah I probably could have written that post a little clearer.