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I have, often the claim is far exxagerated and not very accurate.
Was he convicted of a felony?
you are right he never should have been in, however, unless he was a felon, and did not score on his ASVAB, etc, I don't see this as the Army's fault/
I'm not blaming the Army for this, I'm just saying it is what it is, unfortunately. Same with people like Major Hasan. There are just some people who don't belong in the military yet for whatever reason people overlook the problems until something big happens.
You said it yourself, the Army faces different pressures compared to the other branches. Their job is to keep people in, not kick people out.
Due to their tougher physical standards, the USMC tends to weed out the losers/dirtbags and malcontents during boot. Due to their lower manpower requirements, and higher technical nature, the USAF and USN can be more selective in their recruiting so the losers never make it in.
But this still denies the problem. Only a lack of discipline and professionalism would allow a General to run off at the mouth and be fired in front of the international audience. If this problem exists at that level, how bad do you think it is as you go down the chain? It's a complete lack of discipline, pride, and brotherhood that would allow a soldier to murder his own. It's a complete lack of professionalism that would allow a soldier to use a Qu'ran as target practice as other soldiers of other ranks simply watch. A plot to murder civilians by a group of soldiers shows a complete lack of cohesion and leadership in the unit itself.
Even the Corps hasits discipline problems. The difference is that they know all day that they have no freedom to express their malicious opinions or to misbehave according to their personal disapprovals. I've been on airplanes a lot this year already. For every two or three squared away soldiers I see walking through the terminals I see another that's unbloused, slouching, unlaced, or simply looking like he hates his uniform. This attitude to "buck the system" translates throughout the ranks and into events abroad. Why do you think the Marine Corps is so big on insignificant details like "Irish Pennants," hair cuts, weight standards, wall locker inspections, CGRIs? It's because if those are sloppy, it will translate into something later that will matter.
and there is the kicker. for whatever reason, the Army has pussified its standards and training. back in '05, I was at Ft Leonard Wood for my MP officer advance course. I was June and about 90 degrees. I was driving to the PX and saw a freakin drill SGT mowing grass. I was dumbfounded. I felt compelled to stop my car and ask him "WTF is going on here?" his reply saddened me and all I could do was shake my head. he said, "Sir, it is too hot for us to make the trainees mow the grass". So while this career NCO, sweated his ass off in the summer sun, the trainees were sitting on their asses in an air conditioned theater watching "motivational videos".
I don't know who makes these kinds of stupid ass policies, but that is where the trouble lies.
In other words, if the individual is strong, the unit is strong.
Due to their tougher physical standards, the USMC tends to weed out the losers/dirtbags and malcontents during boot. Due to their lower manpower requirements, and higher technical nature, the USAF and USN can be more selective in their recruiting so the losers never make it in.
That leaves the Army, high manpower requirement and without the glamour of the air force and navy or the prestige of the marines. most of the marginal cases and outright losers and dirtbags end up in the army.
I wish I had a dollar for every "soldier" I have had to discipline who was a washout from one of the other branches.
That's debtable. I went to a mix branch school and there were mostly Marines in my class. The Marine barracks were next door to ours and they had their fair share of goofballs.
Way too long, two years apiece would have been plenty.
24 year prison sentence is not enough?
I love and respect the folks that put on the uniform and put their lives on the line for us, but 24-years for serial murder seems light. Then again, I haven't read up on the case, and with that will shut my yap.
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That's debtable. I went to a mix branch school and there were mostly Marines in my class. The Marine barracks were next door to ours and they had their fair share of goofballs.
"Gangs Spreading In The Military"
The U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command reported 61 gang investigations and incidents last year, compared to just 9 in 2004.
Notice the headline - Exclusive: Gangs Spreading In The Military. It didn't state Army, even though the entire article is about the Army. It stated "military" that way we can all share in the shame.
Exclusive: Gangs Spreading In The Military - CBS Evening News - CBS News
I love and respect the folks that put on the uniform and put their lives on the line for us, but 24-years for serial murder seems light.
This is exactly what I brought up as one of the excuses always given and why nothing will ever change for the Army. The point wasn't about everyone's share of goof balls. The point was about why the Army's goof balls wind up embarrassing the nation and causing disasters. Where the Marine Corps will have a video on 60 Minutes showing a hazing event within a Recon Platoon, the Army will have a Major shooting up a base, or soldiers committing civilian murder, or whole convoys taken prisoner, or generals being fired, or celebrity Football players getting fragged by his own, etc.
Here's another one....
I guess everyone has their share of silly goofballs. It bothers me.
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