Yeah, but we need to balance the overall benefit of the law with the added cost of enforcing it. It might be a wash or negative? And do we really want to have such mundane actions be micromanaged? We have a law in my town that no smoking is allowed within 20ft of a doorway. I've actually seen people come out with tape measures. And what about wind? If I'm 18ft away but there is a strong wind blowing my smoke away from the door, can I argue that in court when I am ticketed? What if I'm fifty feet away but the wind is blowing my smoke towards the door? Can the police still ticket me?
It borders on ludicrous.
This is not a public health issue you (impersonal of course) snotty imbecile.
I do not smoke in enclosed spaces with my son or anyone else.
I just find that your presumption to know the limits of what others may or may not do is anathema to me. I have rarely seen such an abject idiotic argument. Are you for real? Do you have any friends?
car exhaust has CO and other bad fumes. should we ban cars from having their windows open or using the fan to bring in outside air?
think about..the children.
Good for you! Unfortunately, some kids have parents stupider than you and must have their health protected from them.
car exhaust has CO and other bad fumes.
I wish every parent in America would:
I think the nation as a whole would benefit if these were the practices of parents from coast-to-coast. I do not, however, want to give the government the authority to enforce and regulate these things. If you start involving the government in the elimination unhealthy habits, what's next? High-impact sports? Staying up too late? How far do we want to let the government into our knickers?
- Smoke outdoors and refrain from smoking in the car when the kids are along for the ride
- Refrain from using the television as a baby-sitter
- Refrain from using junk food as a bribe or as a regular meal replacement
- Make sure their kids get plenty of sunshine, fresh air and exercise
Yes, campfires inside cars on a daily basis should also be banned.
Don't play this game, it's stupid.
The problem I have with is that some people think they have the right to dictate to others what is right and what is wrong. My decision was personal. Do not presume to dictate to others what is right and what is wrong. You have neither the moral nor intellectual credentials to do so.Exposing children to cigarettes smoke in enclosed areas is most definitely a public health issue.
Good! Then you have nothing to worry about. But this isn't just about you or your son, is it? Not every kid is lucky enough to have a dad as smart as you.
You agree that smoking with a kid is harmful and you wouldn't violate this law - so why are you all upset about this?
I know that exposing kids to smoke harms them. What else is there to know? If others don't do it, great! If they do, we need to stop them. What possible problem could you have with that?
Lame slippery slope argument. Here, let me try it:
What's next? If we stop regulating smoking in cars, will we let parents feed their children sludge? Or pump bleach into their veins?
I have no problem with laws that ban smoking in cars with children in them. I was a child of a smoker (dad) plus another smoker (my grandmother) lived with us most of my childhood. Being in the car with them while they smoked was horrible as a child. And not only would my father and grandmother just try to excuse their smoking as "a bad habit" or "it calms them while they are in the car" but my mother also defended the behavior and would jump on me for even suggesting that neither should smoke around us kids despite not smoking herself.
And enforcing it would be basically the same as enforcing seat belt laws or texting while driving laws. Just pull over the person if you see them doing the activity.
I live in California, which has had this law in place for a while. My husband doesn't smoke in the car with the boys, but didn't even when we lived in NC and HA, where they don't have these laws. Not all smoking parents are like my husband though, and the kids suffer because of the smoking of their inconsiderate parents. Reducing that suffering, even just a little, is a good thing.
Lame slippery slope argument.
Earlier today I heard a conversation about Arkansas, and the illegality of smoking in cars with the windows up. According to them, it's illegal to smoke in a car with children that are, iirc, 6 years of age or younger? I don't know which law this is, and have beeb searching for it to find out exactly what the law entails.
I have this link that seems to support the conversation I heard: Law on smoking in car with children could change Arkansas - The Debate Team - BabyCenter
Assuming this is true, I have no problem with the law.
In fact, I'd like to see smoking in cars with the windows up completely banned, because I've heard 2nd/3rd-hand smoke is pretty dangerous.
Would you like to see this law applied for the whole country? What do you think?
Huh?, indeed. You quite clearly missed MY point. I was pointing out the obvious flaw in your "logic" toward the other poster, not commenting on the pros and cons of smoking or second-hand smoke itself.Huh?
My points stand.
I don't care if smokers are getting hammered. They deserve to be. Exposing children to harmful fumes should be illegal.
when they legalize marijuana will that be illegal to smoke while the windows are up too?
so, you are of the opinion that exposing a child to exhaust fumes can pose no medical problem?Cigarette smoke is different than car fumes. Secondhand smoke can still cause cancer, over enough time.
My main problem is smoking in a care, with kids, with the windows "up," not down. Having asthma, when my uncle would smoke with the windows up it was like slow suffocation.
So no, I see no problem with having government fine irresponsible parents who do this sort of crap. If the windows are down, that changes things.
when they legalize marijuana will that be illegal to smoke while the windows are up too?
The effects of second-hand smoke of marijuana would need to be thoroughly researched before anyone could make an informed decision on your question...
what are the negative health effects you reaped because of it?
If there's children in the back, then I think so.
so, you are of the opinion that exposing a child to exhaust fumes can pose no medical problem?
say no or retract your foolish post
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