Smith & Wesson Sued Over Link To July 4 Parade Mass Shooting

[JMB802]

The bottom line, Most of what people are arguing isn't part of this case.

It's not based on faulty weapons.

It's based on marketing and advertising.

The Sandy Hook people already sued Remington and won.

We will have to wait to see the outcome.

Anyone who makes statements about the outcome before it happens, is only voicing what they want to happen.

I hope that the plaintiffs win and bankrupts the defendant to the point that they go out of business and never reopens another weapons manufacturing company again.

Just because that's what I hope will happen doesn't mean it will.

People need to have patience and wait for the process to play out.

Unfortunately, the bat signal went out to the DP 2A gang, they will crap up the thread with nitpicking and deflection until it dies a stinky death.

 

[braindrain]

The bottom line, Most of what people are arguing isn't part of this case.

It's not based on faulty weapons.

It's based on marketing and advertising.

The Sandy Hook people already sued Remington and won.

We will have to wait to see the outcome.

Anyone who makes statements about the outcome before it happens, is only voicing what they want to happen.

I hope that the plaintiffs win and bankrupts the defendant to the point that they go out of business and never reopens another weapons manufacturing company again.

Just because that's what I hope will happen doesn't mean it will.

People need to have patience and wait for the process to play out.

And you hope that because you want to get rid of guns but know you can’t do it by law as you don’t have the votes so are trying to find a way around the constitution


I hope I never see you complaining only people on the right being anti democracy.

 

[KevinKohler]

Can a human be a target?

Unfortunately, that is sometimes the case. Or are you against self defense?

 

[KevinKohler]

Unfortunately, the bat signal went out to the DP 2A gang, they will crap up the thread with nitpicking and deflection until it dies a stinky death.

I've asked what was faulty about the marketing.

This makes twice now.

No answers, so far. It appears no one wants to weight in with specifics.

 

[mrjurrs]

What loophole? The 2nd ammendment?

Nope, product liability laws.

 

[JMB802]

Unfortunately, that is sometimes the case. Or are you against self defense?

Stick with me. A person can use a gun exactly for its intended purpose, propel a projectile towards a target, and kill or injure a human or themselves. Is that true or false?

 

[KevinKohler]

Stick with me. A person can use a gun exactly for its intended purpose, propel a projectile towards a target, and kill or injure a human or themselves. Is that true or false?

A guns intended purpose is to kill stuff, yes.

What's your point?

 

[JMB802]

I've asked what was faulty about the marketing.

This makes twice now.

No answers, so far. It appears no one wants to weight in with specifics.

If the suit is based on the Sandy Hook case, the grounds would be that the company's marketing violated consumer protection laws. It's mentioned in the first page of the thread.

 

[KevinKohler]

Nope, product liability laws.

Ok.

And?

Should Chevy be liable corvette drivers who speed and cause deadly traffic accidents?

 

[KevinKohler]

If the suit is based on the Sandy Hook case, the grounds would be that the company's marketing violated consumer protection laws. It's mentioned in the first page of the thread.

How?

How did their marketing violate consumer protection laws?

 

[JMB802]

A guns intended purpose is to kill stuff, yes.

What's your point?

I've been told that the gun's intended purpose is to propel a projectile towards a target.

 

[Roadvirus]

Stick with me. A person can use a gun exactly for its intended purpose, propel a projectile towards a target, and kill or injure a human or themselves. Is that true or false?

Everyone knows that a gun can do that. It's not a secret.

This is nowhere near like Big Tobacco (cigs/addiction) or Big Pharma (opioids/addiction)

 

[JMB802]

How?

How did their marketing violate consumer protection laws?

I'm not here to educate you. There are multiple posts about this in the thread. Or use your favorite search enginge.

 

[JMB802]

Everyone knows that a gun can do that. It's not a secret.

This is nowhere near like Big Tobacco (cigs/addiction) or Big Pharma (opioids/addiction)

I thought it was the humans who did the killing, not the guns????

 

[KevinKohler]

I've been told that the gun's intended purpose is to propel a projectile towards a target.

Semantics.

We didn't invent bow and arrows, or any other projectile weapon, for the purpose of target practice. We invented the bow and arrow, because spears are too limited in range, and rocks aren't lethal enough. The gun is just a continuation on our quest for superior projectiles, in terms of accuracy, range, ease of use, and lethality.

 

[KevinKohler]

I'm not here to educate you. There are multiple posts about this in the thread. Or use your favorite search enginge.

"The gun-maker Smith & Wesson illegally targeted young men at risk of violence with ads for firearms"

First line of the OP link. Nowhere does it say HOW. All the stuff I can find only lists the accusation.

Well, I gotta tell you, that lawsuit is looking pretty grim, if no one can establish the means by which SandW illegally targeted young men at risk with their marketing.

When's the last time you saw a gun advertised on TV?

When's the last time you saw a car designed to violate traffic laws advertised on TV? Dodge is in a lot of trouble if this lawsuit pans out. You guys must hate American workers.

 

[mrjurrs]

Unfortunately, the bat signal went out to the DP 2A gang, they will crap up the thread with nitpicking and deflection until it dies a stinky death.

Well said.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

And you hope that because you want to get rid of guns but know you can’t do it by law as you don’t have the votes so are trying to find a way around the constitution

Meh.
The concept that some guy in 1700 envisioned 2022 America with hundreds of millions of people coast to coast, and thought it would be a good idea if every moron was walking around with a gun in their hand, and then also gave BLANKET PERMISSION for that to happen...well the concept of that is just laughably freaking stupid my friend, IMO.

We have to turn our brains on....I'll lead the way!

BAN. THEM. ALL.
(crime will fall)

 

[Cope]

So, the purpose of a gun is to propel a projectile towards an intended target but you can use it for its purpose and it would be considered misuse?

Of course. Cars are meant to drive, but if you drive over some one that is misuse, yet you used the car for it's intended purpose ...

You are trying really hard here to attempt to lay blame on an inanimate object in lieu of the individual choosing how the tool gets used.

And it isn't working very well for you.

 

[mrjurrs]

Ok.

And?

Should Chevy be liable corvette drivers who speed and cause deadly traffic accidents?

To a degree, yes.

 

[Fledermaus]

Can a human be a target?

Of course they can.

And?

 

[KevinKohler]

To a degree, yes.

Explain.

 

[Fledermaus]

To a degree, yes.

For what reason?

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Ok.

And?

Should Chevy be liable corvette drivers who speed and cause deadly traffic accidents?

Nope. But the Corvette isnt marketed or designed with the thought in mind to be as lethal to as many people as possible as quickly as possible.

 

[JMB802]

Of course. Cars are meant to drive, but if you drive over some one that is misuse, yet I used the car for it's intended purpose ...

You are trying really hard here to attempt to lay blame on an inanimate object in lieu of the individual choosing how the tool gets used.

And it isn't working very well for you.

No, that's not true. A car's intended purpose is to move people and things from one spot to the other. A bat's intended purpose is to hit a ball. If you use either to hit a human, you are not using them for their intended purpose.