tlmorg02
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No.
And then you went on from there.
I find it reprehensible that anyone would consider doing this, if these parents are so horrible they should either have their children taken or be arrested.
It's even crazier that anyone would support this, it doesn't matter if it isn't you because it just opens the door to them extending it to other groups.
Pardon me, I will be sure to be more clear in my definitons from hence forward.
I do not see it as madness for those that abuse the system. It will no doubt be a deterrant.
I think you were, but decided to backpedal.
There is no circumstance under which this has a place in a free society. You give them the money or you don't, but either way, they do NOT forfeit their rights just because they use a government service, any more than you do using another state's roads.
I assure you that I was only speaking about the lifers.
Apparently, you and I disagree about what freedom is.
They will be monitored to ensure that children attend school, go to bed on time and eat proper meals.
It's interesting that no Brits have offered any opinions here.
For example I have to actually be careful of where i place my recycling lest my council fine and drag me to court
That's ridiculous too. Well, I know what would be in my recycling bin then.
In other words, "we will add you biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Resistance is futile."Daily Express | UK News :: Sin bins for worst families
You people in Britain who say you care about freedom had better get out there and protest this loudly, because if this sticks, it's over for you as a free country.
How blatantly, literally Orwellian does it have to get for you to react?
I scrolled through this thread to see if any of our friends from the UK have weighed in on this yet. I hope they organize and take this to the streets. Government has no business installing cameras in anyones home.
Outside of a transitory crisis, such as anyone might experience, I agree.If the governement pays your bills, then you have given-up your freedom, as you have proven that you cannot survive on your own. To allow such people to propogate more Welfare seekers and teen gangsters would be an exercise in stupidity.
And do what?
All we can do right now is just pray Conservatives will remove this bull****.
It is a sad state of affairs for Labour when you miss Thatcher who protected individual liberties
Riot, burn some **** down.
Anarchy in the UK
It's one thing for the local factory to close suddenly, and for one to take food stamps and assistance for six months while relocating or acquiring other employment, and driving the new family SUV out for a fine dinner, and trip to the liqour store after a quick stop at the welfare office to demand more money.
Indeed, but that does not justify this extreme measure, especially when there are many other alternatives that actually are fitting.
Perhaps this measure, even if it is never put into practice, will cause some actual reform in the Welfare system. Like kicking the habitual lazy to the curb and making them get a job.
I will present one. First off, people who file for Welfare and have a child to care for, should be legally unable to become pregnant and remain on Welfare for children born while on Welfare, as this is a means regularly used to remain in the system.
First off, people who file for Welfare and have a child to care for, should be legally unable to become pregnant and remain on Welfare for children born while on Welfare, as this is a means regularly used to remain in the system.
Daily Express | UK News :: Sin bins for worst families
You people in Britain who say you care about freedom had better get out there and protest this loudly, because if this sticks, it's over for you as a free country.
How blatantly, literally Orwellian does it have to get for you to react?
Though I understand the goal of this program, I am not inclined to give the government such rights. That being said, the majority if such families are most likely the Welfare families of the nation, and as the government is their provider, should have a say in ensuring that the household is being ran in a manner that will be conducive to raising children that will be good citizens and not re-breeding more Welfare abusers.
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