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Should Zelensky be allowed to attend Pope Francis' funeral?

Its Zelensky's call: he can kneel, or not kneel
MAGAs didn't hesitate - they couldn't cuck themselves fast enough for the wee bitch.

And they had so much less reason to than Zelensky.
 
And Vance is an atheist who pretends to have converted to Catholicism and found belief in God because it would have the most play with his voter base.
It is so easy to lose you soul. And you can never get it back.
 
It is so easy to lose your soul. And you can never get it back.


Zelensky, the accomplished actor, appears to have the lead role in the greatest drama of his life. Volodomyr Zelensky as Faust. Mephistopheles has the fate of Maid Ukraine in his hands. Zelensky, as Faust, can save Maid Ukraine; but he will have to sell his soul to Mephistopheles. Zelensky, as Faust, overestimates his own powers and believes through tantrums he can submit Mephistopheles to his will. Mephistopheles is not fooled; points out to our Faust from Kyiv: you have no cards, your soul, or I walk
 
Zelensky, the accomplished actor, appears to have the lead role in the greatest drama of his life. Volodomyr Zelensky as Faust. Mephistopheles has the fate of Maid Ukraine in his hands. Zelensky, as Faust, can save Maid Ukraine; but he will have to sell his soul to Mephistopheles. Zelensky, as Faust, overestimates his own powers and believes through tantrums he can submit Mephistopheles to his will. Mephistopheles is not fooled; points out to our Faust from Kyiv: you have no cards, your soul, or I walk
Zelensky is a great hero and the "George Washington" of Ukraine.
 
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The disastrous Oval Office visit comes to mind, where Zelensky outdid himself in rudeness, ingratitude and entitlement. The Ukrainian Duce on that occasion acted with all the rudeness his 5' 5" Chaplinesque frame could squeeze out. Disrespected the Oval Office. Disrespected the President. Selected the Vice President for special denigration. It was the good fortune of the American Republic that JD Vance did not let the Slavic Duce get away with it. Trump, Vance, Rubio are all warriors, they struck back hard.

The funeral of Pope Francis is a solemn occasion. Many attendees will be in sober attire. Is Zelensky going to respect the occasion, like the other attendees, and appear in funeral attire? Or is he going to show same disrespect he showed to the Oval Office by appearing in his disrespectful Green Goblin Suit? Then too Z may, to everyone's pleasant surprise, appear clad in black from head to foot.

And it may help too if Z consults with the Vatican in case he intends to bring parting gifts to the funeral. His other gifts to the Vatican on other visits were a profanation. Not intentional. Mainly because the gifts were not reaally for the Vatican. The gifts were statements on his case for war. One gift was the Madonna painted on a bulletproof vest. Another more egregious one was a profanation: an icon of the Madonna and baby Jesus; but with the Saviour blacked out.



There's an old saying: "Nobody should be invited to a funeral, and everyone should come".

I guess you are incapable of turning off your partisan garbage. Even in death.
 
He has my permission to attend in a blacks suit, black shirt, black tie, black shoes. He should also be clean shaven. And he should kiss the ring of every Cardinal present.
Juin:

Do you really think that your permission or anybody else's permission matters? If Italy and the Vatican allow it, then it is out of your hands. Juin's opinion is utterly irrelevant; as are his pronouncements on his chosen Dress Code. Why should an allegedly American poster have any say over how a head of state dresses for any function. Zelenskyy is not a Roman Catholic and many actual Roman Catholics statespersons or delegates will not be dressed as you seem to demand that Zelenskyy should. If Mr. Trump goes then I hope someone throws eggs at him for what he has done against Ukraine and for Putin's Russia.

There are opinions and there is just plain stupidity. Some posters (not Juin of course) really blur the line between those two classifications.

Evilroddy
 
Hilarious coming from a MAGA.
It's completely lost on cucked MAGAs. They truly believe Donald is the most handsome, most stylish, most intelligent, most moral, most manly man they have ever witnessed.
 
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The disastrous Oval Office visit comes to mind, where Zelensky outdid himself in rudeness, ingratitude and entitlement. The Ukrainian Duce on that occasion acted with all the rudeness his 5' 5" Chaplinesque frame could squeeze out. Disrespected the Oval Office. Disrespected the President. Selected the Vice President for special denigration. It was the good fortune of the American Republic that JD Vance did not let the Slavic Duce get away with it. Trump, Vance, Rubio are all warriors, they struck back hard.

The funeral of Pope Francis is a solemn occasion. Many attendees will be in sober attire. Is Zelensky going to respect the occasion, like the other attendees, and appear in funeral attire? Or is he going to show same disrespect he showed to the Oval Office by appearing in his disrespectful Green Goblin Suit? Then too Z may, to everyone's pleasant surprise, appear clad in black from head to foot.

And it may help too if Z consults with the Vatican in case he intends to bring parting gifts to the funeral. His other gifts to the Vatican on other visits were a profanation. Not intentional. Mainly because the gifts were not reaally for the Vatican. The gifts were statements on his case for war. One gift was the Madonna painted on a bulletproof vest. Another more egregious one was a profanation: an icon of the Madonna and baby Jesus; but with the Saviour blacked out.



Are you kidding. The malignant narcissist scumbag piece of shit liar grifter rapist seditionist felon serial adulterer and tax cheat was the rude asshole in that exchange. Is your murderous scumbag putin going?
 
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Pope Francis' March 2024 appeal to Ukraine to have the courage of the White Flag!


Long before President Trump came to the realisation Zelensky had no cards, His Holiness had arrived at that same conclusion. His Holiness , without intending any offense, called on Ukraine to have the courage of the White Flag:

"The strongest one is the one who looks at the situation, thinks about the people and has the courage of the white flag, and negotiates. When you see that you are defeated, that things are not going well, you have to have the courage to negotiate," ; Pope Francis.


Ukraine went ballistic!



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Furious critics compare Pope’s call for Ukraine to wave ‘white flag’ to Nazi appeasement​


Pope Francis’ statement that Ukraine should have the “courage of the white flag” in order to negotiate an end to the war with Russia has ignited a storm of criticism by Ukrainian and allied officials — some of whom invoked the specter of World War II appeasement of Nazi Germany.

“The strongest is the one who, in the battle between good and evil, stands on the side of good rather than attempting to put them on the same footing and call it ‘negotiations,’” Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said in a Sunday post on X.

“At the same time, when it comes to the white flag, we know this Vatican’s strategy from the first half of the 20th century,” Kuleba said, in an apparent reference to the church’s failure to take action against Hitler’s Germany in the runup to World War II.

“I urge [the Church] to avoid repeating the mistakes of the past and to support Ukraine and its people in their just struggle for their lives,” he continued.

“Our flag is blue and yellow. We live, die and win under it. We will not raise other flags.”

Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski joined in, saying in a post on X that, “for balance,” the pope should encourage Putin “to have the courage to withdraw his army from Ukraine.”

“Peace would immediately ensue without the need for negotiations,” Sikorski said.

“Let’s be clear on this: when a commentator or a politician calls for ‘peace’ and simultaneously advocates denying the victim of aggression the means to defend herself, they actually mean that the victim should capitulate,” Sikorski said in another post. “Such Chamberlainism usually covers baser motives.”
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Yes you would like Ukraine to surrender to genocide by Russia. Actually Ukraine will never surrender and every terrorist atrocity by Russia will be answered.
 
Only on page 2.. but this might be in the running for the most pathetic thread in recent DP history.
 
I am sure Putin will be happy to attend. But only at the head of an army given that the European KGB has a warrant out for his arrest :)
Putin will be hanged for is war crimes and the world will rejoice the fall of the Russian Federation.
 
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The disastrous Oval Office visit comes to mind, where Zelensky outdid himself in rudeness, ingratitude and entitlement. The Ukrainian Duce on that occasion acted with all the rudeness his 5' 5" Chaplinesque frame could squeeze out. Disrespected the Oval Office. Disrespected the President. Selected the Vice President for special denigration. It was the good fortune of the American Republic that JD Vance did not let the Slavic Duce get away with it. Trump, Vance, Rubio are all warriors, they struck back hard.

The funeral of Pope Francis is a solemn occasion. Many attendees will be in sober attire. Is Zelensky going to respect the occasion, like the other attendees, and appear in funeral attire? Or is he going to show same disrespect he showed to the Oval Office by appearing in his disrespectful Green Goblin Suit? Then too Z may, to everyone's pleasant surprise, appear clad in black from head to foot.

And it may help too if Z consults with the Vatican in case he intends to bring parting gifts to the funeral. His other gifts to the Vatican on other visits were a profanation. Not intentional. Mainly because the gifts were not reaally for the Vatican. The gifts were statements on his case for war. One gift was the Madonna painted on a bulletproof vest. Another more egregious one was a profanation: an icon of the Madonna and baby Jesus; but with the Saviour blacked out.



I too would push back if ambushed by Trump and Vance.
 
Juin:

Do you really think that your permission or anybody else's permission matters? If Italy and the Vatican allow it, then it is out of your hands. Juin's opinion is utterly irrelevant; as are his pronouncements on his chosen Dress Code. Why should an allegedly American poster have any say over how a head of state dresses for any function. Zelenskyy is not a Roman Catholic and many actual Roman Catholics statespersons or delegates will not be dressed as you seem to demand that Zelenskyy should. If Mr. Trump goes then I hope someone throws eggs at him for what he has done against Ukraine and for Putin's Russia.

There are opinions and there is just plain stupidity. Some posters (not Juin of course) really blur the line between those two classifications.

Evilroddy


Your post, as always, is a beauty. :) excellent erudition. I hope the funeral ocassion is not marred by egg throwing, as you recommend. Pope Francis would not have approved of egg throwing.
 
There's an old saying: "Nobody should be invited to a funeral, and everyone should come".

I guess you are incapable of turning off your partisan garbage. Even in death.


Zelensky is not dead. :)
 
Your post, as always, is a beauty. :) excellent erudition. I hope the funeral ocassion is not marred by egg throwing, as you recommend. Pope Francis would not have approved of egg throwing.
Juin:

Egg yokes could be seen as a symbol of timeless Sol Invictus and Mr. Trump's miserable mortality. A parable for humility, innit.

Wouldn't it be a hoot if Interpol arrested him after unsealing secret indictments for supporting war crimes, crimes against humanity and publicly advocating genocide.

Pax Vobiscum.
Evilroddy.
 
Zelensky was at the Oval Office to sign over his minerals; he was not there to negotiate them. If he felt there was no deal yet he should have postponed his trip until he was satisfied with Trump's offer
Did you think the same when Trump went to the DMZ and met Lil Kim?

Somehow I think not.
 
Juin:

Egg yokes could be seen as a symbol of timeless Sol Invictus and Mr. Trump's miserable mortality. A parable for humility, innit.


Pope Francis would have recommended Holy Water instead of egg yolk


Wouldn't it be a hoot if Interpol arrested him after unsealing secret indictments for supporting war crimes, crimes against humanity and publicly advocating genocide.


Arrest the President of the United States? The world is already crazy as it is


Pax Vobiscum.


And also with you
 
It sucks. What does Ukraine do now?
It has little choice but to work with the EU on a deal. The US has been toting the Putin narrative, and has said nothing about Russia's continued disinterest in peace.
 
The disastrous Oval Office visit comes to mind, where Zelensky outdid himself in rudeness, ingratitude and entitlement.

Even in the Oval Office, the outright lies of Trump & Vance got the pushback they deserved from President Zelernskyy.

That they didn't like the pushback.... tuff nutz.

Unlike President Vladimir Putin of Russia, President Zelenskyy is not wanted for War Crimes by the International Criminal Court.

 
I'm old enough to remember when the United States sided with democracy instead of fascism.
 
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Juin:

Do you really think that your permission or anybody else's permission matters? If Italy and the Vatican allow it, then it is out of your hands. Juin's opinion is utterly irrelevant; as are his pronouncements on his chosen Dress Code. Why should an allegedly American poster have any say over how a head of state dresses for any function. Zelenskyy is not a Roman Catholic and many actual Roman Catholics statespersons or delegates will not be dressed as you seem to demand that Zelenskyy should. If Mr. Trump goes then I hope someone throws eggs at him for what he has done against Ukraine and for Putin's Russia.

There are opinions and there is just plain stupidity. Some posters (not Juin of course) really blur the line between those two classifications.

Evilroddy
What with the abundance of egg all over the OP's face by now, one would hope there ain't any left.;)
 
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