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Don't they already have a way to let old sick prisoners out to die?
Don't judges take thing like age and ability into account when sentencing?
There was an old lady, in her 80s or 90s, who lived next to Central high who got busted dealing drugs more than once. The courts didn't want to be responsible for her, so she would not get any jail time despite being a repeat offender. If she had been 25 yrsold, and healthy she would have received a different sentence. Course, she prob'ly wouldn't've been dealing if she didn't think she could get away with it.
Some Liberals are really stupid but not all. Lumping all Conservatives together might cause some to rethink who is and isn't stupid.
I could be a Gay Blackman for all you know.
What do you do with somebody that shows 0 as income for the year ( I assume you would use the last years tax return to determine income)?
He can rack up as many tickets as he wants because he pays nothing.
Is that right?
poor /pʊər/ Show Spelled
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adjective, -er, -est, noun
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1. having little or no money, goods, or other means of support: a poor family living on welfare.
2. Law . dependent upon charity or public support.
3. (of a country, institution, etc.) meagerly supplied or endowed with resources or funds.
Using that definition,
Afaict, we're not talking about "the rich" we're talking about law breakers who make a lot of money.
Towns would start being more discriminate in who they pull over.
Drive a Lexus, don't even go 5 over the speed limit, there is a greater incentive for the town to pull you over.
Drive a jalopy, speeding could be fine for you.
So? The rich can easily buy jalopies if they want to speed.
And a poor person driving a lexus would be just as likely to be pulled over as a rich person driving a lexus. There is no inequality present.
This is an easy fix: place the average ticket cost in the hand of the police treasury and the rest in some other location where the police would gain no benefit, e.g., contribute it to the government in general, or to a specific funding like roads, or healthcare etc. Additionally, if the police officer pulls a statistically significant higher number of wealthy drivers, put a penalty on that officer ... or ... make it so that the police officer can only fine a certain number of wealthy drivers .. if he goes over that limit, all other fines to the wealthy are at the average speeding ticket cost.
Many solutions to such problems. The real question is why make up unreasonable excuses for the rich to be less severely punished .... ?
This is an easy fix: place the average ticket cost in the hand of the police treasury and the rest in some other location where the police would gain no benefit, e.g., contribute it to the government in general, or to a specific funding like roads, or healthcare etc. Additionally, if the police officer pulls a statistically significant higher number of wealthy drivers, put a penalty on that officer ... or ... make it so that the police officer can only fine a certain number of wealthy drivers .. if he goes over that limit, all other fines to the wealthy are at the average speeding ticket cost.
Many solutions to such problems. The real question is why make up unreasonable excuses for the rich to be less severely punished .... ?
why do you spend so much time worrying about how to get more money out of the rich
speeding tickets are revenue enhancers. speeding is not inherently wrong-they are Malum prohibitum not malum per se in other words speeding is illegal because the law says it is not because it is inherently wrong (like murder, rape or armed robbery)
in fact speeding isn't even immoral. if you speed you should pay the same fine as everyone else
Should not the rich and wealthy be setting a good example of behavior that the poor should be following ?
Things are strange in our nation...Do we really think is OK that one man pays a 1% speeding fine and another pays a 10% ?
Fair ??
Thank you!
And I would apply this same line of questioning to my tax burden.
Why is our tax burdens (in the U.S.) proportionate to our income rather than our useage?
If Ross Perot or Bill Gates were in line at the grocery with you,.... and you and he were both buying a gallon of milk,... would he be expected to pay more for the milk than you are,... just because he has billions of dollars at his disposal?
I got a $320 fine for speeding in the US, at the time there was 2$ to the £, the cop was a good guy, I enjoyed the experience.
The Mustang I was driving was good fun but very crude in comparison to the Ferrari I had then:rofl
Should not the rich and wealthy be setting a good example of behavior that the poor should be following ?
Things are strange in our nation...Do we really think is OK that one man pays a 1% speeding fine and another pays a 10% ?
Fair ??
the ones who pay more tax should have more votes.
the ones who pay more tax should have more votes.
The problem with fines is that for those with enough money to ignore them, they fail to act as a deterrent. However, speeding tickets also lead to license suspension, so I would say that income based fines aren't required.
I understand some of the arguments, so here's what I think -
For things that are purchased, sold, etc. everything should be the same. For fines and penalties for breaking the law, it should be based on income. There is no punishment for buying milk, but there should be punishment for speeding.
tell me how that is going to survive the 14th amendment
tell me how that is going to survive the 14th amendment
If the fines are based on a percentage of income for everyone, wouldn't that be equal treatment under the law?
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