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Should The USA Accept the Truce?

Should The USA Accept The Truce?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 9 17.0%
  • No!

    Votes: 44 83.0%

  • Total voters
    53
Billo_Really said:
Are you saying the History Channel lied to me?

I ain't gonna go look it up. You gonna go look it up? Far as I know Trajan (8) has it right. You know me bro. Come on, you didn't learn the chemical formula to dynamite in 8th grade? I did. Then I stole the ingrediants. As a boy, I was a friggin handful. I don't think the History Channel lied to you. I think you where high when you watched it. I'm not gonna look it up. You have to. Some body is gonna look this **** up. Trajan gave a link. I'm not gonna look at it. I don't do that. I come here with what I know. I remember stuff. You, Sir, don't. Or are you just dying to tell me your Chucky Cheese fiance story, again. See bro, I remember stuff. And I know you don't. And I know that because you recently told me you did not want to bore me with the Chucky Cheese story, which you had bored me with a long time ago. Don't make me copy/paste and embarass you. But then I can't. It was a PM. Remember? I'm teacher, or the colossal brain. What part of that don't you remember?

It's good to be King.

Friggin bite me.
 
teacher said:
I ain't gonna go look it up. You gonna go look it up? Far as I know Trajan (8) has it right. You know me bro. Come on, you didn't learn the chemical formula to dynamite in 8th grade? I did. Then I stole the ingrediants. As a boy, I was a friggin handful. I don't think the History Channel lied to you. I think you where high when you watched it. I'm not gonna look it up. You have to. Some body is gonna look this **** up. Trajan gave a link. I'm not gonna look at it. I don't do that. I come here with what I know. I remember stuff. You, Sir, don't. Or are you just dying to tell me your Chucky Cheese fiance story, again. See bro, I remember stuff. And I know you don't. And I know that because you recently told me you did not want to bore me with the Chucky Cheese story, which you had bored me with a long time ago. Don't make me copy/paste and embarass you. But then I can't. It was a PM. Remember? I'm teacher, or the colossal brain. What part of that don't you remember?

It's good to be King.

Friggin bite me.

For the love of god. Nobody has to look it up. TOT has actually managed to say something correct for once. Nobel invented both dynamite and the Nobel Prize.
 
Trajan Octavian Titus said:
Thanx for the the derogatory statement wrapped in the guise of a compliment... bitch. :mrgreen:

It's a gift I have. Although my favorite line is "Way to snatch an insult out of the jaws of a compliment". Courtesy of Will and Grace. Doesn't really apply here....
 
Originally posted by Kelzie:
It's a gift I have. Although my favorite line is "Way to snatch an insult out of the jaws of a compliment". Courtesy of Will and Grace. Doesn't really apply here....
How about, "Way to compliment an insult out of the jaws of a snatch".
 
Originally posted by teacher:
I ain't gonna go look it up. You gonna go look it up? Far as I know Trajan (8) has it right. You know me bro. Come on, you didn't learn the chemical formula to dynamite in 8th grade? I did. Then I stole the ingrediants. As a boy, I was a friggin handful. I don't think the History Channel lied to you. I think you where high when you watched it. I'm not gonna look it up. You have to. Some body is gonna look this **** up. Trajan gave a link. I'm not gonna look at it. I don't do that. I come here with what I know. I remember stuff. You, Sir, don't. Or are you just dying to tell me your Chucky Cheese fiance story, again. See bro, I remember stuff. And I know you don't. And I know that because you recently told me you did not want to bore me with the Chucky Cheese story, which you had bored me with a long time ago. Don't make me copy/paste and embarass you. But then I can't. It was a PM. Remember? I'm teacher, or the colossal brain. What part of that don't you remember?

It's good to be King.

Friggin bite me.
I haven't been high in ten years, junior. I saw it on the History Channel a couple of days ago.
 
teacher said:
I ain't gonna go look it up. You gonna go look it up? Far as I know Trajan (8) has it right. You know me bro. Come on, you didn't learn the chemical formula to dynamite in 8th grade? I did. Then I stole the ingrediants. As a boy, I was a friggin handful. I don't think the History Channel lied to you. I think you where high when you watched it. I'm not gonna look it up. You have to. Some body is gonna look this **** up. Trajan gave a link. I'm not gonna look at it. I don't do that. I come here with what I know. I remember stuff. You, Sir, don't. Or are you just dying to tell me your Chucky Cheese fiance story, again. See bro, I remember stuff. And I know you don't. And I know that because you recently told me you did not want to bore me with the Chucky Cheese story, which you had bored me with a long time ago. Don't make me copy/paste and embarass you. But then I can't. It was a PM. Remember? I'm teacher, or the colossal brain. What part of that don't you remember?

It's good to be King.

Friggin bite me.

Well I already knew it too, that's why I made the; "noble peace prize being a crock of sh!t," comment, in the first place, I just figured that Billo needed something a little more tangible than my word hence the link.
 
Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus
Well I already knew it too, that's why I made the comment, I just figured that Billo needed something a little more tangible than my word hence the link.
Would you two like a room?
 
Trajan Octavian Titus said:
Because the Contras weren't bad, they were freedom fighters.

The Contras were by and large former Somoza goons and hardly were freedom fighters.
 
Vandeervecken said:
The Contras were by and large former Somoza goons and hardly were freedom fighters.

That's a lie, you base this statement on what facts? There may have been former Somoza supporters within the ranks of the Contras, but that by no means implicates the entire organization. In fact just as Alpha 66 were orignally Cubans who fought against Batista and came to realize that Castro was just as tyrannical, the orginal Contras were revolutionaries who fought against Somoza then came to realize that they were trading one dictatorship for another. Kind of like the current revolutionaries fighting against the clerics in Iran: the Mujahedin-e Kalq who were responsible for the overthrow of the Shaw in a Marxist/Islamic revolution but now have grown to realize that they merely traded one tyrant for another.

The history of the Contras:

History
The earliest were MILPAS, peasant militias led by former Sandinista supporters. These militias were the majority of the first true Contra groups formed in 1980-1981 in Honduras, Nicaragua's northern neighbour, allying in August 1981 as the Nicaraguan Democratic Force (Fuerza Democrática Nicaragüense, FDN) under the command of former National Guard (army) colonel Enrique Bermúdez and Jaime Irving Steidel a Honduran-born Field Commander, later replaced by Oscar Sobalvarro. A joint political directorate was created in February 1983 under businessman and anti-Sandinista politician Adolfo Calero.

A second front in the war opened with the creation in Costa Rica in April 1982 of the Democratic Revolutionary Alliance (ARDE) and its armed wing, the Sandino Revolutionary Front (FRS), by Edén Pastora (Comandante Cero), former Sandinista hero of the August 1978 seizure of Somoza's palace. ARDE was formed by Sandinista dissidents and veterans of the anti-Somoza campaign who opposed the increased influence of Cuban officials in the Managua regime. Proclaiming his ideological distance from the FDN, Pastora nevertheless styled his force the "southern front" in a common campaign.

A third anti-Sandinista force, Misurasata, appeared among the Miskito, Sumu and Rama Amerindian peoples of Nicaragua's Atlantic coast, who in December 1981 found themselves in conflict with the revolutionary authorities following what the Sandinista government later called an "ill-judged modernisation drive," and what the Miskitos themselves called genocide. In 1983 the Misurasata movement led by Brooklyn Rivera split, the breakaway Misura group of Stedman Fagoth allying itself more closely with the FDN.

The Misurasata did not consider the actions of the Sandinista government as just an "ill-judged modernisation drive", but an attempt to force the tribes to participate in the revolution. The Misurasata had a number of grievances against the Sandinista government including:

Unilateral natural resource exploitation policies which denied Indians access to much of their traditional land base and severely restricted their subsistence activities
The arrest, imprisonment and subsequent execution of the majority of the Misurasata leadership
The military occupation, bombing, or deliberate destruction of over half of all Miskito and Sumu villages in the region, and the forced conscription of Indian youth into the Nicaraguan military
Forced removal of at least 10,000 Indians from their traditional lands to relocation and re-education centers in the interior of the country, and subsequent burning of their villages
Economic embargoes and blockades against native villages not sympathetic to the government
U.S. officials were also active in drawing the various Contra groups together in June 1985 as the United Nicaraguan Opposition under the leadership of Calero, Arturo Cruz and Alfonso Robelo, all former members of the original Sandinista cadre: after its dissolution early in 1987, the Nicaraguan Resistance (RN) was organised along similar lines (May 1987). Splits within the rebel movement emerged with Pastora's defection (May 1984) and Misurasata's April 1985 accommodation with the Sandinista government: a subsequent autonomy statute (September 1987) largely defused Miskito resistance.

Mediation by other Central American governments under Costa Rican leadership led finally to the Sapoa ceasefire agreement of March 23, 1988, which with additional agreements (February, August 1989) provided for the Contras' disarmament and re-integration into Nicaraguan society and politics, and internationally-monitored elections which were subsequently won (February 25, 1990) by an anti-Sandinista centre-right coalition.

Some Contra elements and disaffected Sandinistas returned briefly to armed opposition in the 1990s, sometimes calling themselves recontras or revueltos, but these groups were subsequently persuaded to disarm again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contras

It's funny how former Marxist revolutionaries are now fighting against the same dictatorships that they helped to create.
 
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Puny humans. (Trivia. Who says that?) I bet Gunny gets it.

Interesting case study here. Were there some of you thin skinned folks involved in this one, someone would be banned or warned. But it involved Kelzie, Trajan (8), Billo and me. Adult swim. Had some nice names going back and forth there out of the basement. See anybody whining 26xworldchamps? Wah, I want my mommy.

Moral of the story? Suck it up weenies. It's just a friggin web site.
 
Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus
That's a lie, you base this statement on what facts? There may have been former Somoza supporters within the ranks of the Contras, but that by no means implicates the entire organization. In fact just as Alpha 66 were orignally Cubans who fought against Batista and came to realize that Castro was just as tyrannical, the orginal Contras were revolutionaries who fought against Somoza then came to realize that they were trading one dictatorship for another. Kind of like the current revolutionaries in Iran the Mujahedin-e Kalq who were responsible for the overthrow of the Shaw but now have grown to realize that they merely traded one tyrant for another.

The history of the Contras:
If the contra's were so hot, how come most of our government officials associated with them got convicted of something illegal?
 
Trajan Octavian Titus said:
That's the Hulk aka Bruce Banner.

No prize to TOT.

I think the most important thing that we all should walk away here from here with is that I was not wrong.

Oh yea, Billo was. So he wasn't high, he was drunk. My bad. And he can't remember what he said. That's funny. Notice he skips over that part? You suck Billo.
 
Originally posted by teacher:
No prize to TOT.

I think the most important thing that we all should walk away here from here with is that I was not wrong.

Oh yea, Billo was. So he wasn't high, he was drunk. My bad. And he can't remember what he said. That's funny. Notice he skips over that part? You suck Billo.
Wrong or right, I know everything I say. Now is anyone up for a cheesy story?
 
Billo_Really said:
If the contra's were so hot, how come most of our government officials associated with them got convicted of something illegal?

Because of our foriegn policy towards supporting armed revolutionaries without the consent of congress.

Oh and because we were selling arms to Iran to fund the Contras, the Iran-Contra scandal wasn't so much about the support of the Contras as it was about arming the Iranians.
 
Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus
Because of our foriegn policy towards supporting armed revolutionaries without the consent of congress.
Maybe there's hope for you yet.
 
Originally Posted by Trajan Octavian Titus
Oh and because we were selling arms to Iran to fund the Contras, the Iran-Contra scandal wasn't so much about the support of the Contras as it was about arming the Iranians.
Try to stay on topic scandal-boy.
 
Duke said:
So, they murdered about 3000 civilians, so we had to go murder hundreds of thousands more? Oh, I see! This makes all the sense in the world now that you explained it to me like that!


Duke


That was a brilliant rebuttal... I just can't come back with a viable argument facing logic as solid as that.... Just Kiddin....:roll:

I guess th best option is to do nothing.... Thats would seem to be what your advocating.. It didn't work though. Multiple attacks on our country and no response did NOT stop this from happening.. So the do nothing plan sux
 
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