One of the last Leftist's final attempts to throw the Right under the bus.
Hard to control the government if they keep everything secret. Things need to be open. Not that this report will be honest, likely not. But I think the real fear isn't from increased attack, but from pissing off The People even more.
Diane Feinstein and the Democrats are releasing the Torture Report this week, they are saying. They meaning the Demos, Feinstein, and the MS Media.
Foreign governments and U.S. intelligence agencies are predicting that the release of a Senate report examining the use of torture by the CIA will cause "violence and deaths" abroad. BO is backing the release of this report. Since he came out and stated we tortured some folks. Then other countries Intel services stated this will cause more violence and death to take place. This was all reported back to BO. Yet he and the Democrats are all for it.
The Republicans are disputing this report and will come out with their own report. Feinstein said she would go ahead with the release. Even after Kerry asked her to hold off with the timing.
What say ye?
Reaction to the Senate interrogation report going about as expected: ‘May Allaah destroy these filthy bastards’.....
Fantastic. Exit note, the Guardian also credits @ShamiWitness as playing a role helping ISIS recruit foreign fighters:
The most influential tweeter for foreign fighters was named as Shami Witness, a social media operator whose popularity has swollen in tandem with the territorial expansion of Isis, from 4,700 to 11,900 followers since April. It is an increase that some experts say chimes with his apparent evolution from anti-Assad activist to supporter of Isis, but his political evolution has, says Neumann, implications for western security. “You might have a wannabe foreign fighter sitting at home in Portsmouth and he can simply reach out to Shami Witness. He plays a role linking wannabes with foreign fighters.”
Over to you, Sen. Feinstein.....snip~
Reaction to the Senate interrogation report going about as expected: ‘May Allaah destroy these filthy bastards’ | Twitchy
Anytime a group of people is afraid of what will happen if everyone knows what they did they probably shouldn't have done what they did.
Does anyone think that any of them have learned anything from this?
I don't and what's more I believe that some of them would do the same things again.
Which is a darn good reason to put them on trial.
So you'd be perfectly fine with terrorists using the exact same techniques on American troops? Even if said soldier was a member of your family? Heck it's not torture--as you say--so no big whoop, right?
Contra Mrs Pelosi, Democrats in the Congress were briefed on this when it was going on. I'm sure that is what they tell others, and what they tell themselves. I'm also pretty sure that if they were morally horrified at the notion that we might trade Abu McSlayTheChildrenOfTheInfedels being uncomfy for a few hours in return for saving dozens or hundreds of lives, they had the opportunity to speak up and chose not to..
Diane Feinstein and the Democrats are releasing the Torture Report this week, they are saying. They meaning the Demos, Feinstein, and the MS Media.
Foreign governments and U.S. intelligence agencies are predicting that the release of a Senate report examining the use of torture by the CIA will cause "violence and deaths" abroad. BO is backing the release of this report. Since he came out and stated we tortured some folks. Then other countries Intel services stated this will cause more violence and death to take place. This was all reported back to BO. Yet he and the Democrats are all for it.
The Republicans are disputing this report and will come out with their own report. Feinstein said she would go ahead with the release. Even after Kerry asked her to hold off with the timing.
What say ye?
No. I seriously doubt that any detainees died because of enhanced interrogation while in US custody.
Of course, that doesn't speak to any of the deaths that occurred while in custody of any other nations.
Your post lacks credibility. Perhaps you could strive for some in the future.
But thanks for your opinion. Perhaps you can work on accuracy in your posts, a splash of credibility might be refreshing.
One of the last Leftist's final attempts to throw the Right under the bus.
One of the last Leftist's final attempts to throw the Right under the bus.
the stress positions were egregious -at least enough so the tapes were destroyed."Torture Report"?
Did we do something more than waterboarding and stress positions?
thanks for that..a helluva lot more then "stress positions"..Sexual threats, other CIA methods detailed in new U.S. report
"Specific examples of brutality by CIA interrogators cited in the report include the November 2002 death from hypothermia of a detainee who had been held partially nude and chained to a concrete floor at a secret CIA prison."
It's SO symbolic/indicative that hyper-partisanship is ruing this country's ability to govern;You don't see why it should be pointed out, that there will be two separate reports?
What about not one Demo talking to anyone in the program? Do you think that is irrelevant to?
I do not think they can be any more angered....It's a bad idea IMO. It will serve no purpose but to anger our enemies.
So you'd be perfectly fine with terrorists using the exact same techniques on American troops? Even if said soldier was a member of your family? Heck it's not torture--as you say--so no big whoop, right?
It's SO symbolic/indicative that hyper-partisanship is ruing this country's ability to govern;
that a freaking report by the Senate Intel Committee cannot even be agreed upon, or at least issued without rank partisanship making us all wonder what the **** really happened.
I mean for great Buddha's sake - cannot the cream of the elected intelligence officials just not put aside politics for once and issue a well documented factual report?
There is basic disagreement as to even the FACTS.
If you're too lazy to form rebuttals we can just call it here. Run along, boy.
In Germany, schoolchildren are forced to learn about the atrocities they committed during WWII. In Japan, from what I understand, this is not the case - the children don't learn about things like the Rape of Nanking.
How can we possibly learn from our mistakes, from our nation's misdeeds, if we are never made aware of what we did? Yes, there will be more violence because of the release of the report, when others see our truly dirty laundry. But that's what we get for having committed the crimes to begin with. Maybe next time, when we're faced with the choice of whether or not to torture, we'll know better because of what happened with the release of this report.
After all, when we committed that torture, did the United States of America face any truly existential threat? I ask because when George Washington stated his opinion on torture and mistreatment of prisoners, even the possibility of a United States of America was very much in doubt:
"Should any American soldier be so base and infamous as to injure any [prisoner]. . . I do most earnestly enjoin you to bring him to such severe and exemplary punishment as the enormity of the crime may require. Should it extend to death itself, it will not be disproportional to its guilt at such a time and in such a cause... for by such conduct they bring shame, disgrace and ruin to themselves and their country."
-- George Washington, charge to the Northern Expeditionary Force, Sept. 14, 1775
I'm certain that all these countries also entertain Al Qaeda, Muslim Brotherhood and various other terrorist gangs.
Move westward and accomplish what exactly?
The fact that there are multiple terrorist gangs vying for power undermines their ability to do much damage.
Their internecine battles will keep them weak.
Sexual threats, other CIA methods detailed in new U.S. report
"Specific examples of brutality by CIA interrogators cited in the report include the November 2002 death from hypothermia of a detainee who had been held partially nude and chained to a concrete floor at a secret CIA prison."
in terms of disclosure of personnel? I don't think sources and methods used are going to rile up Daesh/AQ anymore then they are..Heya AT. :2wave: Report is out. Looks like this will be trouble for our people overseas and our contacts.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...port-cia-interrogation-11.html#post1064072084
Yeah and I don't think Washington's thoughts included.....what is a terrorist.
The report is out.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...port-cia-interrogation-11.html#post1064072084
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