Should the man have any say in whether a woman aborts or not?

[Bodi]

I still believe that it's no business or decision of the man's unless the woman thinks he should be included.

Do you think that back child support should be legal then?

 

[BDBoop]

Do you think that back child support should be legal then?

It is legal. It's not the mother's say. The courts insist. It's for the child.

 

[Bodi]

and has any case dealing with this issue been brought to the SCOTUS?

Irrelevant to the merit of the Amendment and a Red Herring.

 

[Bodi]

It is legal. It's not the mother's say. The courts insist. It's for the child.

Incorrect. Child support is only sought by the courts if the mother requests it. If a mother wants back child support and the father had no knowledge of the child, the court will force him to pay for the 18 years that the child was growing and he has no say in the matter, he just gets ****ed over (excuse my French).

So do you support the double standard of not telling the father and then allowing the courts to screw him for child support or not ?

 

[BDBoop]

Irrelevant to the merit of the Amendment and a Red Herring.

No it's not. You claim it, you defend it.

 

[BDBoop]

Incorrect. Child support is only sought by the courts if the mother requests it. If a mother wants back child support and the father had no knowledge of the child, the court will force him to pay for the 18 years that the child was growing and he has no say in the matter, he just gets ****ed over (excuse my French).

So do you support the double standard of not telling the father and then allowing the courts to screw him for child support or not ?

Wrong. I lived it, I know it.

 

[Bodi]

Wrong. I lived it, I know it.

You are saying that you did not want child support but the courts forced you then?

 

[BDBoop]

You are saying that you did not want child support but the courts forced you then?

I couldn't get AFDC if I didn't cough up a name. He hid for a lot of years. When we went to court, my daughter was already six. He refused to look at a picture of her, had it entered in the court orders that he refused visitation, and tried to convince the judge that my word on the subject should outweigh blood tests.

 

[Bodi]

No it's not. You claim it, you defend it.

How is it relevant? The Plessy "Seperate But Equal" SCOTUS decision that was around for 60 years was illegal and illogical even though it was federal law... and Plessy's challenge in 1897 (or whenever that was in Illinois) was just as valid prior to the challenge as it was when it was overturned 60 years later in the Brown decision of 1954.

Just because it hasn't been challenged yet does not mean that it isn't a valid legal point and law. Try again...

 

[BDBoop]

Try again...

Gracious, but you're bossy.

 

[Bodi]

I couldn't get AFDC if I didn't cough up a name. He hid for a lot of years. When we went to court, my daughter was already six. He refused to look at a picture of her, had it entered in the court orders that he refused visitation, and tried to convince the judge that my word on the subject should outweigh blood tests.

What is the step from AFDC to Child Support? You cough up a name, they give you AFDC. That has nothing to do with Child Support. And didn't you not tell him about being pregnant? Is that part of the reason that he "hid"?

 

[Bodi]

Gracious, but you're bossy.

Hell, don't try, just realize that you are wrong and have do not have a valid point though...

 

[BDBoop]

What is the step from AFDC to Child Support? You cough up a name, they give you AFDC. That has nothing to do with Child Support. And didn't you not tell him about being pregnant? Is that part of the reason that he "hid"?

rofl!! It has everything to do with child support. It's not the county's job to support the child. it's the father's.

/sigh

I could have sworn I already covered this ground a few hours back. I. TOLD. him. he. wasn't. the. father.

 

[Bodi]

rofl!! It has everything to do with child support. It's not the county's job to support the child. it's the father's.

/sigh

I could have sworn I already covered this ground a few hours back. I. TOLD. him. he. wasn't. the. father.

If I missed it then I apologize. I am in a couple of fast dialogues here today.

I agree that it is the father and mother's job, not the countries... but that is going off topic. You said that I was wrong about Courts not chasing down a father, that it is the mother. You have yet to show that the Courts (government) went after the father or that you didn't want them to.

So you told him that he wasn't the father... then went for family assistance and had to cough up his name and then wnet after him for back child support for the kid that he didn't even know that he had. He found out and "hid" in order to not have to pay for a kid he knew nothing of? Am I getting this straight?

 

[BDBoop]

If I missed it then I apologize. I am in a couple of fast dialogues here today.

I agree that it is the father and mother's job, not the countries... but that is going off topic. You said that I was wrong about Courts not chasing down a father, that it is the mother. You have yet to show that the Courts (government) went after the father or that you didn't want them to.

So you told him that he wasn't the father... then went for family assistance and had to cough up his name and then wnet after him for back child support for the kid that he didn't even know that he had. He found out and "hid" in order to not have to pay for a kid he knew nothing of? Am I getting this straight?

No. THEY did. The county takes over. And once it's in the system, it is what it is. I just wanted AFDC until my daughter was old enough that I could go back to work. We did blood tests when she was two. Once they went to him for blood, he knew I lied and he started hiding.

 

[BDBoop]

I find it highly ironic that you despise a woman for being mentally ill (that alone is a real brow-raiser) but if I try to protect me and mine? Well THAT'S DIFFERENT!!!

 

[Bodi]

No. THEY did. The county takes over. And once it's in the system, it is what it is. I just wanted AFDC until my daughter was old enough that I could go back to work. We did blood tests when she was two. Once they went to him for blood, he knew I lied and he started hiding.

So you created the mess. You lied, denied him the chance to know his child from conception, couldn't afford the child you decided to keep, went for family assistance (having me and other taxpayers pay to help raise you child), the Courts then get him for back child support for a kid he never knew, and you called me nauseating before because I made a mistake and asked a lady that I didn't know had Borderline Personality Disorder to marry me and conseequently get abused by her for years, she cheated on me and then tried to screw me over in court for child support and denying me equal custody of our children? Seriously? You don't sound like you should be casting around aspersions or insults to ANYBODY. Man, you are lucky he didn't sue you.

 

[Bodi]

I find it highly ironic that you despise a woman for being mentally ill (that alone is a real brow-raiser) but if I try to protect me and mine? Well THAT'S DIFFERENT!!!

I don't despise her at all... I have nothing but empathy for her, as a matter of fact. That doesn't change the fact that she was/is a bitch because of her illness.

 

[Real Korimyr #9]

The law is clear that a woman can have a legal abortion wtihout consulting the father... that is discrimination based on sex. Pretty straight forward.

That is not discrimination based on sex. She can have a legal abortion without consulting anyone but her doctor because the child is growing in her body.

Now, you want to argue that child support is sex discrimination? Absolutely. One hundred percent.

 

[Bodi]

That is not discrimination based on sex. She can have a legal abortion without consulting anyone but her doctor because the child is growing in her body.

Now, you want to argue that child support is sex discrimination? Absolutely. One hundred percent.

With his DNA. If she can make a decision and he can't, he is being discriminated against due to is gender. The law allowing her to make the decision is as illegal was SCOTUS's Plessy decision.

 

[X Factor]

So you created the mess. You lied, denied him the chance to know his child from conception, couldn't afford the child you decided to keep, went for family assistance (having me and other taxpayers pay to help raise you child), the Courts then get him for back child support for a kid he never knew, and you called me nauseating before because I made a mistake and asked a lady that I didn't know had Borderline Personality Disorder to marry me and conseequently get abused by her for years, she cheated on me and then tried to screw me over in court for child support and denying me equal custody of our children? Seriously? You don't sound like you should be casting around aspersions or insults to ANYBODY. Man, you are lucky he didn't sue you.

I have a feeling you'll be joining me, very soon, on Boop's ever expanding ignore list.

 

[Bodi]

I have a feeling you'll be joining me, very soon, on Boop's ever expanding ignore list.

To be honest, I am quite shocked by this turn of events. She quickly bashed me based on almost nothing and then she gets upset at being called out for her actions. That's fine... I don't have anybody on ignore. I find those people too entertaining to ignore.

 

[Real Korimyr #9]

With his DNA. If she can make a decision and he can't, he is being discriminated against due to is gender. The law allowing her to make the decision is as illegal was SCOTUS's Plessy decision.

It isn't his DNA. He left it inside her.

 

[Bodi]

It isn't his DNA. He left it inside her.

LOL! Ahhh... the finders keepers DNA argument. I have been schooled, apparently.

 

[BDBoop]

I don't despise her at all... I have nothing but empathy for her, as a matter of fact. That doesn't change the fact that she was/is a bitch because of her illness.

Because of her illness. Exactly.