Should the Federal government force DP to ban me?

[antiquity]

Everyone knows you are lying, including yourself. Nothing else to discuss. Goodbye.

Not quite everyone....
Was Mark Zuckerberg lying when he appeared on the Joe Rogan podcast and said he was told by the Biden administration to censor some posts?

Mark Zuckerberg makes shocking admission on Joe Rogan podcast

Mark Zuckerberg told Joe Rogan that the Biden administration tried to force him to censor a meme about the Covid-19 pandemic in a surprise appearance on the popular podcast.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Where was the outrage from the left when Roseann Barr was removed from one of the most popular shows on TV?
Or is the outrage only when a person on the left gets banned.

 

[antiquity]

I know what he said, that's why I am on this thread.
I am asking YOU if you know whether or not ABC or CBS even HAS an FCC broadcast license of any kind.
Now, either you can answer that question and I can help you learn something you were not aware of, or you can stick to your script.

It seems that your understanding of how broadcasting works in this country (at least for the last ninety+ years) is limited and based on largely guesses and hearsay.
I studied for and earned an FCC First Class Commercial License in the Seventies. I had to learn all the rules and regs in Part 15 and Part 95 (now buried in FCC's Title 47 stuff)
but all of that is still there and it takes an act of Congress to change it....yes, STILL.

So, can you answer the question or not?
It's okay if you don't know....I know, I am trying to explain it to you, so that YOU know.

Seems the whole debate is moving in the wrong direction....it was the local TV stations that refuse to air Jimmy Kimmel because of the comment and lies he told.
Disney was taking a hit with his low ratings and high salary so they thought it was time to move on.

 

[Xilnik]

Not quite everyone....
Was Mark Zuckerberg lying when he appeared on the Joe Rogan podcast and said he was told by the Biden administration to censor some posts?

Mark Zuckerberg makes shocking admission on Joe Rogan podcast

Mark Zuckerberg told Joe Rogan that the Biden administration tried to force him to censor a meme about the Covid-19 pandemic in a surprise appearance on the popular podcast.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Where was the outrage from the left when Roseann Barr was removed from one of the most popular shows on TV?
Or is the outrage only when a person on the left gets banned.

Your example with Biden is most similar to the Kimmel situation, but what threats did Biden or the FBI make? I don't recall any reports of Facebook or Meta being given any ultimatums or forced into censorship by the government. His reports sound like some inappropriate, unprofessional behavior occurred from Biden's team, but the Government didn't cross the line into threats as far as I read. It sounded like Zuckerberg was able to push back on Biden's team and their overaggressive approach without any legal consequences.

And Roseanne made public, inflammatory comments while employed. If I did the same, I'd anticipate my employer taking similar action because their image is reflected in my actions. Kimmel made his comments within a satirical platform as part of his profession. Those are very different situations.

 

[Airyaman]

No but some of the posters on DP do inflame violence.... especially recently on Charlie Kirk threads or some hate Trump threads.

Oh yeah, how so? Got any examples or just being hyperbolic?

 

[Moderate Right]

I think Kirk's shooter was a groyper. Terminally online shitposter. Not a "leftist."

Should the Federal government step in and threaten to shut down Debate Politics if they don't ban me?

It would be nice if the moderators on political sites were fair and balanced but that is not a legal requirement. They are free to be biased against one side and for the other side but that stifles true debate, which I guess is what some sites want when those moderators favor one side over the other.

As Jay Leno said recently against his fellow late night comedians, something to the effect of if you want to appeal to everyone then you'd do comedy that was fair and balanced and pick on both sides equally. I must point out though, however, that when you have a broadcasting license for over the air broadcasts, you are required to follow certain rules and if you step over the line and violate those rules, your broadcasting license could be at stake. That license does not give you freedom of speech rights nor a blank check to do whatever you want.

 

[The AntiDonald]

No but DP has every right to ban someone who says things that inflame violence.

They do and they are. Nothing needs to change.

 

[What if...?]

To be clear, you would not support the government ever being involved in censoring “disinformation.” Is that your stance?

Nah.

Labeling, like cigarettes.

“There is no scientific basis for the above claim”

 

[Old 'N Chill]

I think Kirk's shooter was a groyper. Terminally online shitposter. Not a "leftist."

Should the Federal government step in and threaten to shut down Debate Politics if they don't ban me?

NO. I agree with you and you are not inciting or threatening violence, which would validate the Admin here to ban you.

The Big Government has its nose in people's genitals, women's doctor's offices, etc., they don't need to bow to the new Fuhrer trump to crush the rights of American citizens in a discussion community.

If you were banned from here due to pressure from federal gov., many of us would leave voluntarily, including me.

PS: Best to ignore the anti-American nutters.

 

[What if...?]

Yes it does, because ninety two percent of viewers do not use antennas to watch TV, therefore pulling an FCC license would not make individual stations cease operation.
The only result would be threefold, a vastly reduced electric bill, those transmitters are typically fifty thousand watts or even more, about eight percent viewer loss FROM antenna viewers, who would be extremely pissed off AT TRUMP for that, and a little bit of temporary pain resulting from that eight percent gap, which could be filled.

So yes it does matter.
Carr could "flip the off switch" on YOUR local affiliate right this second and if you use a Roku device, or cable, or satellite, you wouldn't even know it happened.
So tell me again why it doesn't matter, except for the single quarter temporary dip in revenue while affiliates scramble to make up that eight percent difference.

It about the same impact as when cable operators fight with stations and the stations yell "Call your cable company and DEMAND they put Channel (****) back on!"
In fact, it's way LESS impact.

I think it was threatening the merger, wasn’t it?

I did know about the “broadcast” thing. It’s right in the word.

 

[cpwill]

I think Kirk's shooter was a groyper. Terminally online shitposter. Not a "leftist."

Should the Federal government step in and threaten to shut down Debate Politics if they don't ban me?

No. But just like the 2020 Election Deniers, you need for your own good to divest of partisan conspiracy nonsense.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I think it was threatening the merger, wasn’t it?

I did know about the “broadcast” thing. It’s right in the word.

The threat is revocation of broadcast licenses, which only belong to individual affiliates.
A TV network does not have a broadcast license.
FCC has no jurisdiction or authority beyond that which involves antennas.

FCC "wireline" authority only applies to technical issues, like when wireline infrastructure leaks signals and interferes WITH public airwaves.
FCC has no authority to dictate mergers other than casting blind threats at broadcast stations.

 

[What if...?]

The threat is revocation of broadcast licenses, which only belong to individual affiliates.
A TV network does not have a broadcast license.
FCC has no jurisdiction or authority beyond that which involves antennas.

FCC "wireline" authority only applies to technical issues, like when wireline infrastructure leaks signals and interferes WITH public airwaves.
FCC has no authority to dictate mergers other than casting blind threats at broadcast stations.

I thought I had heard that there was a merger pending that would require FCC approval and that approval would require disciplinary action against Kimmel or a public apology from him or some such.

Trump did talk about licenses.

But Trump is an idiot who knows less than John Snow.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

I think Kirk's shooter was a groyper. Terminally online shitposter. Not a "leftist."

Should the Federal government step in and threaten to shut down Debate Politics if they don't ban me?

This is said in jest, but the longer people like Trump hold onto political power, the more likely it is that political discussion forums like this will be targeted by the federal government.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I thought I had heard that there was a merger pending that would require FCC approval and that approval would require disciplinary action against Kimmel or a public apology from him or some such.

Trump did talk about licenses.

But Trump is an idiot who knows less than John Snow.

The FCC can only do one thing wrt to mergers, revoke individual affiliate station licenses.
Do the math and it boils down to stations not wanting even the smallest impact to their bottom line by losing eight to ten percent of their viewers who watch OTA (antenna) instead of cable, satellite or streaming.
This is shortsighted because now Trump will keep upping the ante, so the solution is to call their bluff and let the backlash happen.
Most antenna only viewers are either too poor to afford satellite, or they are rural, beyond the reach of cable and fast broadband and are likely Trump voters.

 

[Deuce]

Not quite everyone....
Was Mark Zuckerberg lying when he appeared on the Joe Rogan podcast and said he was told by the Biden administration to censor some posts?

Mark Zuckerberg makes shocking admission on Joe Rogan podcast

Mark Zuckerberg told Joe Rogan that the Biden administration tried to force him to censor a meme about the Covid-19 pandemic in a surprise appearance on the popular podcast.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Where was the outrage from the left when Roseann Barr was removed from one of the most popular shows on TV?
Or is the outrage only when a person on the left gets banned.

Zuckerberg didn’t say the government threatened anything. And, really, just his word while talking to Joe Rogan?

Rosanne was canceled while Trump was president. The government didn’t force the network to do it.

 

[Deuce]

It would be nice if the moderators on political sites were fair and balanced but that is not a legal requirement. They are free to be biased against one side and for the other side but that stifles true debate, which I guess is what some sites want when those moderators favor one side over the other.

As Jay Leno said recently against his fellow late night comedians, something to the effect of if you want to appeal to everyone then you'd do comedy that was fair and balanced and pick on both sides equally. I must point out though, however, that when you have a broadcasting license for over the air broadcasts, you are required to follow certain rules and if you step over the line and violate those rules, your broadcasting license could be at stake. That license does not give you freedom of speech rights nor a blank check to do whatever you want.

You dodged the central question, like many right wingers.

What rule are you claiming Kimmel broke?

 

[Deuce]

This is said in jest, but the longer people like Trump hold onto political power, the more likely it is that political discussion forums like this will be targeted by the federal government.

This thread is in no way a joke.

 

[bythoughts]

Do you think the OP is "inflaming violence"?

Looking funny, thereby making it necessary for a bully to hit you, is clearly inflaming violence, at least in this America.