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NoMoreDems-Reps said:Remember
In 1992
Clinton got ~42% of the poeples Vote --> 70% Electroial Vote
Bush Sr got ~39% of the peoples Vote --> 30% Electroial Vote
Ross P. got ~18% of the peoples Vote --> 0% Electroial Vote
In 2000
Al Gore got more votes (The Peoples Votes) but lost!
In 2004
Dems went to court to keep Nader off the ballot!
We are suppose to have Representation!
But if you don't vote REPUBLICAN or DEMOCRAT
you will have no Representation!
Easy solution:
1) Eliminate the Electoral College. (Make your vote count)
(or at least tske out the "Winner Take All" rule)
2) Have Immediate Runoff Elections. (Make it accurate.)
3) Vote any non-Dem/Rep party. (Let them know we will make
change! Shape up or ship out!)
This way every vote counts, and every politician
will be judged by the "PEOPLE" Directly!!!!
NoMoreDems-Reps said:Remember
In 1992
Clinton got ~42% of the poeples Vote --> 70% Electroial Vote
Bush Sr got ~39% of the peoples Vote --> 30% Electroial Vote
Ross P. got ~18% of the peoples Vote --> 0% Electroial Vote
In 2000
Al Gore got more votes (The Peoples Votes) but lost!
In 2004
Dems went to court to keep Nader off the ballot!
We are suppose to have Representation!
But if you don't vote REPUBLICAN or DEMOCRAT
you will have no Representation!
Easy solution:
1) Eliminate the Electoral College. (Make your vote count)
(or at least tske out the "Winner Take All" rule)
2) Have Immediate Runoff Elections. (Make it accurate.)
3) Vote any non-Dem/Rep party. (Let them know we will make
change! Shape up or ship out!)
This way every vote counts, and every politician
will be judged by the "PEOPLE" Directly!!!!
Originally Posted by NoMoreDems-Reps
Remember
In 1992
Clinton got ~42% of the poeples Vote --> 70% Electroial Vote
Bush Sr got ~39% of the peoples Vote --> 30% Electroial Vote
Ross P. got ~18% of the peoples Vote --> 0% Electroial Vote
In 2000
Al Gore got more votes (The Peoples Votes) but lost!
In 2004
Dems went to court to keep Nader off the ballot!
We are suppose to have Representation!
But if you don't vote REPUBLICAN or DEMOCRAT
you will have no Representation!
Easy solution:
1) Eliminate the Electoral College. (Make your vote count)
(or at least tske out the "Winner Take All" rule)
2) Have Immediate Runoff Elections. (Make it accurate.)
3) Vote any non-Dem/Rep party. (Let them know we will make
change! Shape up or ship out!)
This way every vote counts, and every politician
will be judged by the "PEOPLE" Directly!!!!
NoMoreDems-Reps said:For those who say just a few states will count your wrong.
1) "Americans" live in all states!
2) Most Americans want a good government.
3) Small states don't vote only for one Party.
4) And it really isn't fair for small populations to have more political pull!
The Electoral College was great in the 1800's
but now it's a tool that the REP&DEM use to have a monopoly on the US Government!
You don't see that? Or what the implications of having a group of
known corrupt people having that kind of unconditional control over
the most powerful country in the world?
But if you are against ending the E.C. do you still think it's a good idea
to end the "Winner Take All" Rule? And have "Instant run off election"
Stinger said:f they are known corrupt then don't vote for them.
alphamale said:If the electoral college were done away with, than the election would devolve around the vote of 15 or so states and everyone else might as well stay home on election day.
How has it been shown over & over?Stinger said:Nope the Northeast and the West Coast population centers will elect the Executive offices. This has been shown over and over.
Stinger said:And we are a union of STATES not people, the STATES elect the President and VP.
They did a great job for their time, but many things have changed and thereStinger said:Specious arguement, do you think those of us who believe the founding fathers got it right want bad government?
Stinger said:But as a state they decide whom their state will cast it's electoral votes for.
IStinger said:t's smaller states and they have more pull just as they do in the Senate.
Stinger said:What was great about it then but not now?
Stinger said:Actually it's forced them to be more concerned with a broader voting base.
Stinger said:If they are known corrupt then don't vote for them.
It's not fine! How can you support a system that is unjust?Stinger said:No. it's fine just the way it is. What is it that you want to change so badly. The electoral college is one of the amazing mechanism the founding fathers came up with that make the United States what it is and has help us survive as such. Is it just because you think Gore really won?
Gardener said:That would be quite an improvement from the current situation where just 6 or 8 swing states determine the presidency.
Gardener said:That would be quite an improvement from the current situation where just 6 or 8 swing states determine the presidency.
Liberal Because I Care said:We need to do away with the electoral college. We are now capable of counting popular vote quickly and the popular vote should determine the winner.
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