i tested myself for neutrality by substituting polanski for dick cheney in this scenario and that clinched it for me.
youve gotta atleast givim some credit for staying outta jail for 30 years. i mean thats gotta be a record or somthin
Did he run away instead of facing the outcome of his crime? Then he is a coward.
I voted "other". I don't know if he should be punished or not. That is for the court to decide. But I do think he should face his day in court and I believe he was a coward to have left the country.
No I don't think the victim's opinion is terribly relevant. We are trying to deter people who think they are above the law from doing bad things to today's children. If it was your daughter....?
I tested myself for neutrality by substituting Polanski for Dick Cheney in this scenario and that clinched it for me.
Wrong again. He was willing to accept the terms of his plea. The Judge reneged and wouldn't accept the deal the prosecutor worked out.
The judge wanted a multiple year state prison sentence. The DA knew their case was weak and based their plea agreement on the facts that were proveable.
Thats what caused Polanski to flee
he plead guilty to a deal that was changed and he did not stay. he would not have done that had the deal been honored. he would not have said he was guilty if there was no deal.
Wrong. Get your facts straight. It wasn't forcible rape. It was stat rape and the sentence he was to receive was lenient based on problems that the Prosecutor had with proof. The judge reneged on the deal which is what caused Polanski to flee.
I'm not condoning the fleeing or the stat rape, however, there were considerable questions underlying the conduct of the girl and her mother and whether Polanski was aware of her age.
The bottom line...there is a lot of misinformation out there and this post is another example of it.
maybe 30 years ago if he were actually guilty. but since the judge got the confession falsely that may not even be so.
That is within the judges rights. The judge has to approve any plea bargain as I understand it.
he did. then he changed his mind. there should be no such thing as a bargain. if someone breaks the law do the time this is not let's make a deal. this is a court. this was done and he was lied to or he would never have confessed to anything.
he did. then he changed his mind. there should be no such thing as a bargain. if someone breaks the law do the time this is not let's make a deal. this is a court. this was done and he was lied to or he would never have confessed to anything.
That is within the judges rights. The judge has to approve any plea bargain as I understand it.
What you are missing is that no one is saying Polanski should be punished MORE than what he bargained for. He pleaded GUILTY to molesting a 13-year-old girl. He is a convicted child molester. He should face the consequences.
What do you mean it "may not even be so"? He pleaded GUILTY to sexually molesting a 13-year-old. The circumstances surrounding his plea bargain do not change that fact. Whether he had a deal that he would get a lighter sentence by pleading guilty does not change the fact that he pleaded guilty. Why in the world would you think he was innocent? Do you presume everyone to be innocent, if they agree to plead guilty through a plea bargain?
What you are missing is that no one is saying Polanski should be punished MORE than what he bargained for. He pleaded guilty to molesting a 13-year-old girl. He is a convicted child molester. He should face the consequences.
Wrong. You get your facts straight. He brutally raped a child. The Smoking Gun: Archive And a warning, this includes testimony from her, so of course it is disturbing, to say the least. And even if she consented (which she didn't), she was THIRTEEN YEARS OLD. THIRTEEN!! No where near old enough to make such a decision with a GROWN MAN.
The Smoking gun? Are you serious?
Wrong. The DA found her testimony and statements to the police less than credible. She later recanted her statements.
the consequences are time serve and he had to be good. that was the deal. so why all the fuss
katiegrrl0 said:No they want to change the deal Roman signed on for don't they. well that is wrong. if he is guilty fine. but honor the agreement that was given him.
katiegrrl0 said:why do your courts make deals anyway? seems silly to make deals with law breakers.
katiegrrl0 said:why hasn't anyone chimed in about how Kennedy Jackson Simpson all got away with whatever because of money. what the US needs a donation from Polanski to keep you a float. maybe they figure he is flush now because he was getting an award. so this is as good a time as any. why didn't you just send guys to roll him in an alley and take his wallet to help your economy.
he plead guilty under false pretentious to be done with it.
katiegrrl0 said:and then your court tried to screw him so he left.
no i consider them guilty when they are proven so in a court of law. is that not the law of your land?
I find the judges actions in the case to be terrible. Acting under outside pressure to screw with the plea system struck a major blow to the credibility of our system.
However, Polanski refused to play by the rules. He should have appealed, not abandon justice all together and flee. I would consider it appropriate if he got the terms he originally bargained for, especially considering the victims wishes. Still, he needs to face punishment for trying to escape justice. It needs to be made clear that running is not an acceptable solution to a criminal charge.
Because he skipped the country before he was sentenced.
I agree. Very few people in this thread have argued otherwise.
It saves time and money. There is no need for the prosecution to spend a huge amount of taxpayer money, and risk getting no conviction at all, if he can get the defendant to agree to plead guilty to a lesser crime.
:rofl
You are hilarious. Yep, they picked up Polanski to boost the American economy.
Does that make him less guilty? Regardless of what deal he agreed to, HE PLEADED GUILTY.
And once again, no one is saying his plea bargain shouldn't be honored. How many times must I repeat this before it sinks in?
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