It is if the position being fired from is an office which wields the power and soveriegnty of the People and the "being human" part is abuse of said power and improper actions against the rights and liberties of the People while wielding their power and authority.
Yes, because getting injured by insane maniacs when they do not carry tools for self defense is a part of a paramedics job.
depends on the outcome....an officer injuring perp is one thing, a seriously maimed or killed perp, that is another....
Sucks, but that is how it goes. Anyone can be a great guy or gal, and make just ONE mistake, and pay for it the rest of his life. No amount of good evaluations and/or awards will allow for that one really stupid mistake.
Tain't fair, but it is what it is....
Repeating "rights and liberties" blah blah blah doesn't make my statement any less reasonable.
It is if the position being fired from is an office which wields the power and soveriegnty of the People and the "being human" part is abuse of said power and improper actions against the rights and liberties of the People while wielding their power and authority.
agree, somehow some of our people in positions of power and authority lose perspective.
He would have been incredibly wrong to do so as well.
Did he state that he was trying to impress a date? See here we go again with making assumptions as fact.Again, please read more carefully. There are THREE situations I am describing...one in town with an asswipe with an attitude who was trying to impress a potential date,
No, sorry, engaging you in conversation to find out what you wanted, while trying to keep his attention on the car he has stopped, and now you as well as the roadway, no. you leave the man alone and let him do his job. NEVER roll up on an officer on a traffic stop and pester him with mundane ****.what I wanted, but he was so out of control that he wouldn't let me speak at first.
No does your claim that your statement is reasonable detract from it being incorrect. It's like saying a politician gets caught taking a huge bribe and it's "Oh, well he's just human. We'll forgive his blatent selling of his vote this time, this is the first time we've ever heard of this guy doing something wrong; so it's ok." No, he's out. Toss him into the street, tell him to get a new job. Any position which wields the power and sovereignty of the people is a position necessarily under extreme scrutiny. Any abuse of our power and sovereignty is rightful grounds for dismissal. Plain and simple.
Your comparison is lame. Taking a huge bribe is not a "heat of the moment" scenario. It would be no different than a police officer taking a bribe to which I would also have to say is criminal.
If your compairson is how you are looking at my argument you need to go back and re read what I said instead of just blathering on like some kinda anarchist.
My guess is that you haven't seen many crazy people being subdued. Being tazed is far less violent.Guess I should have made that 2 sentences so everyone can understand what I said. The medics are there to transport the person who is out of control, the BACKUP is there to help subdue. Or did you miss the word BACKUP?
LOL. And this is what you do when YOU have nothing left in your tank.You want to try to pretend that a politician abusing his power is somehow different than a cop abusing his power, but it's the same.
From the cop documentaries I've seen they have enough trouble hitting the target at all, without worrying about just wounding people.
athe average cop doesn't shoot much
in 1989 I studied the Local Police Dept. It had 989 cops and they went through 140k rounds that year. since cops could shoot for free at the local police range-it was assumed most of them weren't buying lots of ammo and shooting at non-government ranges.
the training officer and three of his assistants were responsible for about 40K rounds of ammo. That means the rest shot about 120 Rounds a year and since the qualification course was 60 rounds that meant one qualification course and one practice run a year
when I was an A class USPSA/IPSC open divisions shooter(back in the Pre-Master days) I was shooting 35-60K rounds a year not counting hours of dry firing, airguns etc.
trying to be a competent pistol shot shooting 100 -300 rounds a year is akin to trying to be a 5 handicap golfer playing 2 rounds a year
To shot someone should be a last resort action, not something that the police is required to do.
Excluding guys that are on SWAT or similar, this is true: most cops are not all that great with guns. Any serious competition shooter will be faster and more accurate than 95% of ordinary LEOs.
The most respected police and civilian firearms instructor in Ohio noted that if you went to "Targetworld" (A public shooting range in northern Cincinnati) and pulled ten people off the range at random on a saturday afternoon in the winter (the busiest season) and then went over to the nearby Cincinnati Police Department range and pulled ten cops at random and had each group shoot the POlice qualification course and then take a written test on firearms related topics including laws, safety rules etc the 10 target world customers would destroy the cops 99 times out of 100.
Thats because those individuals take firearms up as a hobby, while its just a small (but important) part of the job of policing.
Some cops take up firearms as a hobby too, I think your firearms instructor fails to realize this.
Although to be honest, I don't have much of a hobby in the way of firearms. Hell, If I can't do it at home, and I can't take my kids to do it with me, I can't have it as a hobby currently. I used to go shooting back when I was at Ft. Bragg and didn't have kids.
When they get older, maybe, but I can't see bringing a 3 and 2 year old into a shooting range.
Understood. Although strangely, I would suspect that many rural departments (especially rural southern departments) have a greater portion of their police force interested in firearms as a hobby than your city departments. In the country people in general like to go shoot targets in their own back yards, its a hobby they can enjoy. There are too many ****ty laws to make hobbies such as gun shooting very enjoyable in cities. Your police force is usually a representative of your city as a whole, so there you go.Given the guy was an MP in the Nam and then spent 10 years as a patrol officer and SWAT member and then a couple decades of the combined county wide SWAT team's head (our county has lots of villages and small cities that cannot afford each to have a SWAT TEAM so each community would provide one officer who would serve in a joint SWAT TEAM) I suspect he knows that. I also (given I spent years defending police officers and various agency LEOs in lawsuits) know that police work involves far more than shooting.
Why is that?I also know that when I hear chiefs of police pontificating on firearms laws I just laugh.
Understood. Although strangely, I would suspect that many rural departments (especially rural southern departments) have a greater portion of their police force interested in firearms as a hobby than your city departments. In the country people in general like to go shoot targets in their own back yards, its a hobby they can enjoy. There are too many ****ty laws to make hobbies such as gun shooting very enjoyable in cities. Your police force is usually a representative of your city as a whole, so there you go.
Why is that?
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